Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread.

profitius · 24-10-2011 2:01pm

People talk about Zebo but Hudson was better for the Irish U20s the season before last. He scored plenty of tries too I remember.

[Jackass] · 24-10-2011 2:56pm

Have been hearing a lot about Hudson over the last number of months. Perhaps overshadowed by Dave Kearney and Conway, but looking forward to seeing more of him. Haven't seen much of him before.

Thomond, I must show you some good D4 hospitality if you fancy a pint before / after the game in lansdowne. Perhaps this seasons forefit can be a live event which can be filmed and posted on boards...

I feel a standing on table in pub, crying out here ye, here ye and going on about a rant of your wrongness may be in order!!

(witnesses welcome to attend!)

shuffol · 24-10-2011 3:02pm

Hudson did indeed score a lot of tries for the u-20s that season, looked a classy player but my view of him at the time was that he wasnt big enough to be a real physical wing or have the out and out pace to be a top level wing. Havent seen him play since so cant really comment on him now, I think he's lined out a few times at 13 for the Leinster A's.

irishbucsfan · 24-10-2011 3:03pm

[Jackass] wrote: »

Have been hearing a lot about Hudson over the last number of months. Perhaps overshadowed by Dave Kearney and Conway, but looking forward to seeing more of him. Haven't seen much of him before.

Thomond, I must show you some good D4 hospitality if you fancy a pint before / after the game in lansdowne. Perhaps this seasons forefit can be a live event which can be filmed and posted on boards...

I feel a standing on table in pub, crying out here ye, here ye and going on about a rant of your wrongness may be in order!!

(witnesses welcome to attend!)

I reckon he'd feel right at home in Kielys.

molloyjh · 24-10-2011 3:14pm

Both Hudson and Macken really looked good on Friday. Thought Conway was looking to impress and some of his decision making was the poorer for it. But just back from injury you can't blame him. Auva'a played really well too.

The pack was far superior to Ulsters but with Hagan and Sykes in there you'd expect that really. Dundon did well and Ryan made his presence felt. He's one sturdy back row! Our backs made holes almost at will in the second half. The sort of lines Hudson ran in that clip along with a bit of jinking and twisting when coming into contact seemed to cause Ulster all sorts of trouble. And some of the offloading was impressive.

The only concern I'd have is that the backs were all on the small side really. Will be interesting to see how they do in the B&I Cup.

ambid · 24-10-2011 3:43pm

molloyjh wrote: »

Both Hudson and Macken really looked good on Friday. Thought Conway was looking to impress and some of his decision making was the poorer for it. But just back from injury you can't blame him. Auva'a played really well too.

The pack was far superior to Ulsters but with Hagan and Sykes in there you'd expect that really. Dundon did well and Ryan made his presence felt. He's one sturdy back row! Our backs made holes almost at will in the second half. The sort of lines Hudson ran in that clip along with a bit of jinking and twisting when coming into contact seemed to cause Ulster all sorts of trouble. And some of the offloading was impressive.

The only concern I'd have is that the backs were all on the small side really. Will be interesting to see how they do in the B&I Cup.

Agree about Auva'a. The only thing that annoys me is the skip thing he does so often when he sets out on a run. I know he's trying to wrong foot the defender but, aside from Mafi in the ML final last year, it rarely seems to work.

Kiss was in the centre of the stand, towards the back. He was also impressive on iTalkSport with Eoin McDevitt on Sunday.

irishbucsfan · 24-10-2011 3:54pm

ambid wrote: »

Agree about Auva'a. The only thing that annoys me is the skip thing he does so often when he sets out on a run. I know he's trying to wrong foot the defender but, aside from Mafi in the ML final last year, it rarely seems to work.

Artemiev used to constantly do that going into contact. And he was very tough to bring down because of it.

molloyjh · 24-10-2011 4:22pm

ambid wrote: »

Kiss was in the centre of the stand, towards the back. He was also impressive on iTalkSport with Eoin McDevitt on Sunday.

Only caught the end of that where Eoin was asking him if he'd ever consider faking an injury to a prop to force uncontested scrums after Gatlands brain fart. Daft question I thought, he was hardly going to say yes. I was kind of glad I missed it though as that soccer pundit that was on with them is a flippin' eejit. Can't stand him. Saw him a couple of weeks ago when EOS was on and he seemed to want to make the whole thing as awkward for Eddie as possible.

I did briefly catch something about Jenno being a huge leader in the RWC. Anything else interesting from Kiss????

thomond2006 · 24-10-2011 4:29pm

[Jackass] wrote: »

Have been hearing a lot about Hudson over the last number of months. Perhaps overshadowed by Dave Kearney and Conway, but looking forward to seeing more of him. Haven't seen much of him before.

Thomond, I must show you some good D4 hospitality if you fancy a pint before / after the game in lansdowne. Perhaps this seasons forefit can be a live event which can be filmed and posted on boards...

I feel a standing on table in pub, crying out here ye, here ye and going on about a rant of your wrongness may be in order!!

(witnesses welcome to attend!)

Unofficial rugby forum boards beers eh? I'd be up for that!

As for the forfeit, yes perhaps we should take it to the next level. Jumping on a bar table and shouting the place down wouldn't be my cup of tea all the same!

[Jackass] · 24-10-2011 5:48pm

Hehe, me neither. I'm sure we can come up with some alternative though.

BB-RFC (Boards Beers Rugby Forefit Challange) accepted!

CIARAN_BOYLE · 24-10-2011 6:02pm

ambid wrote: »

Agree about Auva'a. The only thing that annoys me is the skip thing he does so often when he sets out on a run. I know he's trying to wrong foot the defender but, aside from Mafi in the ML final last year, it rarely seems to work.

Kiss was in the centre of the stand, towards the back. He was also impressive on iTalkSport with Eoin McDevitt on Sunday.

Auva'a wasn't playing in the ML final last season or even in the ML last season

Just saw on Leinsterrugby.ie that Isaac Boss, Sean Cronin, Leo Cullen, Shane Jennings, Fergus McFadden, Eoin Reddan and Jonathan Sexton are available this weekend

Monty Burnz · 24-10-2011 6:07pm

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Auva'a wasn't playing in the ML final last season or even in the ML last season

No, but Mafi was, as he said.

ambid · 24-10-2011 6:33pm

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Auva'a wasn't playing in the ML final last season or even in the ML last season...

Ciaran, I didn't say Auva'a played in the ML final.

I referred to Mafi playing in the ML final, and that Mafi successfully executed the same skip step at the start of a run which Auva'a also uses.

ambid · 24-10-2011 6:42pm

molloyjh wrote: »

Only caught the end of that where Eoin was asking him if he'd ever consider faking an injury to a prop to force uncontested scrums after Gatlands brain fart. Daft question I thought, he was hardly going to say yes. I was kind of glad I missed it though as that soccer pundit that was on with them is a flippin' eejit. Can't stand him. Saw him a couple of weeks ago when EOS was on and he seemed to want to make the whole thing as awkward for Eddie as possible.

I did briefly catch something about Jenno being a huge leader in the RWC. Anything else interesting from Kiss????

He spoke a lot about the process of getting over disappointment after all the work they had put in to preparation for the world cup and how they are now moving on to setting new challenges. The mental strength of professional sportspeople is very impressive.

He also mentioned Flannery handing out the jerseys and how incredibly emotional that was. He was almost becoming emotional again just recalling the moment. It did sound very powerful.

It was fascinating when he spoke about leadership in the team. Apparently both Jennings and Geordan Murphy assumed major leadership roles. He also sang the praises of O'Driscoll and O'Connell, talking about how relaxed O'Driscoll is in leadership and how he encourages the ref to speak to O'Connell if necessary rather than drag O'Driscoll in from outfield.

He's a really impressive guy.

totallegend · 24-10-2011 10:09pm

I see that TG4 are doing deferred coverage of the Edinburgh game on Friday night (after the Munster match), fair play to them.

Should be a good opportunity for a few of the RWC squad to get back in the saddle with Leinster ahead of the big one the following week.

My team vs Edinburgh:
Nacewa
Carr
McFadden
Fitzgerald
D Kearney
Sexton
Boss
VDM
Cronin
Hagan
Cullen
Sykes
Ryan
Jennings
Ruddock

durkadurka · 24-10-2011 10:29pm

R Kearney and reddan might play too.

Healy, bod, sob, heaslip need another week .

CIARAN_BOYLE · 24-10-2011 10:52pm

ambid wrote: »

Ciaran, I didn't say Auva'a played in the ML final.

I referred to Mafi playing in the ML final, and that Mafi successfully executed the same skip step at the start of a run which Auva'a also uses.

Sorry I thought you meant aside from doing it on Mafi in the ML final. Brainfart from me when I was reading.

shuffol · 24-10-2011 11:41pm

The Kearney/Nacewa situation will be an interesting one. Nacewa was a revelation at FB last season and was key to Leinsters stye of play. I'd rate them fairy equally at FB with Kearney being marginally better under the high ball and having a bigger boot but Nacewa is a far better counterattacker. I'd rate Nacewa as a better wing though, I dont really like Kearney on the wing at all. Have fun with that one Joe.

durkadurka · 24-10-2011 11:45pm

I think shaggy being injured has solved it for Joe. Rob to fb, isa to 14, and fitz/Carr/McFadden fighting for 11.

irishbucsfan · 24-10-2011 11:55pm

Well Nacewa will play this week because Kearney is not on the list of available players.

It will be VERY interesting to see what happens there before the Munster game.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 24-10-2011 11:56pm

I heard talk a few months ago that it was recomended that BOD have a shoulder surgery but it was put off because it would have risked his WC availability. Does anyone think he should be sent for surgery now and welcomed back by Leinster and Ireland around the 6 nations.

thomond2006 · 24-10-2011 11:59pm

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

I heard talk a few months ago that it was recomended that BOD have a shoulder injury but it was put off because it would have risked his WC availability. Does anyone think he should be sent for surgery now and welcomed back by Leinster and Ireland around the 6 nations.

ha that's makes the rumour far more interesting!

shuffol · 25-10-2011 12:00am

durkadurka wrote: »

I think shaggy being injured has solved it for Joe. Rob to fb, isa to 14, and fitz/Carr/McFadden fighting for 11.

That'd probably be the most balanced back 3 but I think Schmidt will find it hard to move Nacewa from FB. His counterattacking really defined Leinsters style last season and so much good play flowed from him. Hopefully Schmidt will be able to bring on that aspect of Kearneys game. Would you say Carr is ahead of D. Kearney? I havent seen many of Leinsters games this season so couldnt comment on that one.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 25-10-2011 12:01am

thomond2006 wrote: »

ha that's makes the rumour far more interesting!

sorry fixed

durkadurka · 25-10-2011 12:07am

shuffol wrote: »

That'd probably be the most balanced back 3 but I think Schmidt will find it hard to move Nacewa from FB. His counterattacking really defined Leinsters style last season and so much good play flowed from him. Hopefully Schmidt will be able to bring on that aspect of Kearneys game. Would you say Carr is ahead of D. Kearney? I havent seen many of Leinsters games this season so couldnt comment on that one.

Carrs a bit hot and cold tbh. He's dominated games and been anonymous in others. I agree about nacewa but he has to fit r Kearney in too. Gonna be very interesting when we see the 23 vs munster...

irishbucsfan · 25-10-2011 12:08am

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

I heard talk a few months ago that it was recomended that BOD have a shoulder surgery but it was put off because it would have risked his WC availability. Does anyone think he should be sent for surgery now and welcomed back by Leinster and Ireland around the 6 nations.

I reckon Marcus Horan should pay for it.

durkadurka · 25-10-2011 12:12am

Tuilagi surely

Big Nelly · 25-10-2011 12:24am

shuffol wrote: »

That'd probably be the most balanced back 3 but I think Schmidt will find it hard to move Nacewa from FB. His counterattacking really defined Leinsters style last season and so much good play flowed from him. Hopefully Schmidt will be able to bring on that aspect of Kearneys game. Would you say Carr is ahead of D. Kearney? I havent seen many of Leinsters games this season so couldnt comment on that one.

Carr has been brutal, should have stayed in the West:D