Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread.

wixfjord · 01-11-2011 6:15pm

Hagz wrote: »

I had a feeling that would be the case. If so, O'Malley or McFadden?

Or Luuuuuuke?

Darcy at 12 and MCF at 13 for me I'd say.

Hagz · 01-11-2011 6:32pm

wixfjord wrote: »

Or Luuuuuuke?

Darcy at 12 and MCF at 13 for me I'd say.

If it were my choice it would be Luuuuuke. But I'd say Schmidt will go with McFadden. Hopefully McGahan chooses Chambers at 13 and Barnes at 12. That'll be nice.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 01-11-2011 6:34pm

Hagz wrote: »

If it were my choice it would be Luuuuuke. But I'd say Schmidt will go with McFadden. Hopefully McGahan chooses Chambers at 13 and Barnes at 12. That'll be nice.

Schmidt has used McFadden at 13 for about 10 minutes since he took over. I reckon its probably a fight between Fitz and EOM

WeeBushy · 01-11-2011 7:47pm

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Schmidt has used McFadden at 13 for about 10 minutes since he took over. I reckon its probably a fight between Fitz and EOM

Has Schmidt used Fitz at 13? Hasn't played there in a long time. If EOM was in form I'd stay with him, but I think he's been a bit subdued this season (not helped by injury). I'd start McF at 13.

CatFromHue · 01-11-2011 7:51pm

I'd go with O Malley if BOD doesn't make it.

Luke Fitz to the best of my knowledge has never played there before and McFadden for me is a winger.

[Jackass] · 01-11-2011 8:35pm

I'd definitely go with McFadden.

He'll probably partner with D'Arcy.

Would be good to see a backline of Reddan, Sexton, Carr, Fitzgerald, McFadden, Nacewa & R. Kearney.

thomond2006 · 01-11-2011 8:38pm

Hagz wrote: »

If it were my choice it would be Luuuuuke. But I'd say Schmidt will go with McFadden. Hopefully McGahan chooses Chambers at 13 and Barnes at 12. That'll be nice.

As I mentioned in the munster tt thread, it's likely to be Mafi/Chambers.

tolosenc · 01-11-2011 8:41pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

As I mentioned in the munster tt thread, it's likely to be Mafi/Chambers.

So, Chambers on his own for about 10 minutes at some point.

wixfjord · 01-11-2011 8:49pm

[Jackass] wrote: »

I'd definitely go with McFadden.

He'll probably partner with D'Arcy.

Would be good to see a backline of Reddan, Sexton, Carr, Fitzgerald, McFadden, Nacewa & R. Kearney.

Jesus, you and your man love for Carr!

CIARAN_BOYLE · 01-11-2011 9:17pm

WeeBushy wrote: »

Has Schmidt used Fitz at 13?

HEC Saracens away last season

CatFromHue · 01-11-2011 9:28pm

[Jackass] wrote: »

I'd definitely go with McFadden.

He'll probably partner with D'Arcy.

Would be good to see a backline of Reddan, Sexton, Carr, Fitzgerald, McFadden, Nacewa & R. Kearney.

Under Schmidt McFadden hasn't got a look in at 13. In Cheika's last year McFadden got a good few starts there but last season Schmidt always went for O Malley at 13, even to point of putting McFadden on the wing.

I think that new centre partnership and with Carr on the wing too that back line you have up would be defensively weak. Also while Fitzgerald and McFadden are good strike runners I don't know how much of the ball would make it to the wings if they were to play.

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

HEC Saracens away last season

Is that his only start at 13, I forgot all about it!

wixfjord · 01-11-2011 9:39pm

CatFromHue wrote: »

Under Schmidt McFadden hasn't got a look in at 13. In Cheika's last year McFadden got a good few starts there but last season Schmidt always went for O Malley at 13, even to point of putting McFadden on the wing.

I think that new centre partnership and with Carr on the wing too that back line you have up would be defensively weak. Also while Fitzgerald and McFadden are good strike runners I don't know how much of the ball would make it to the wings if they were to play.

Is that his only start at 13, I forgot all about it!

He's certainly played at 13 for Leinster before that too.
I agree though actually, I think O Malley would be thrown in if BOD was out.

totallegend · 01-11-2011 9:49pm

Luuuke's appearances at centre have been mainly at 12, e.g. this season and when D' Arcy had his arm injury, but I'd be happy enough to see him at 13 either.

Imagine a Leinster backline without BOD, D'arcy or Horgan for a big game, scary stuff but would be great to see the younger guys step up.

[Jackass] · 01-11-2011 11:32pm

McFadden is a better player than O'Malley imo, and is in much better form. I'd be surprised if O'Malley was in. I'd sooner have Fitz or McFadden in centre before turning to O'Malley.

wixfjord wrote: »

Jesus, you and your man love for Carr!

Trust me man, he's going to come good. And when he does, he'll be something else.

durkadurka · 01-11-2011 11:34pm

I've mixed feelings for Carr. He's had some great games and some anonymous ones.

irishbucsfan · 01-11-2011 11:45pm

In terms of his attacking talent Carr should absolutely be starting. I don't know if his defense is up to it though... saying that Dave Kearney was atrocious in defense last weekend so maybe Carr is the right way to go.

I reckon Fitz will start at 11 though. I'd prefer him at 12 and Carr at 11 but we need experience in the centers...

I guess it'll be:

Healy, Best, Ross, Cullen, Toner, O'Brien, Jennings, Heaslip, Reddan, Sexton, Fitzgerald, D'Arcy, McFadden, Nacewa, Kearney

molloyjh · 02-11-2011 1:29am

[Quote=[Jackass];75248652]Trust me man, he's going to come good. And when he does, he'll be something else.[/Quote]

I really hope he does come good. Other than a few good runs in the first few games he's shown very little so far. And from the Glasgow game onwards I honestly can't think of a single thing he's contributed. D Kearneys defensive display last week was poor enough, but he was strong going forward and I've had very little to complain about prior to the Embra game. He's not as flashy, but he's a much harder worker.

tolosenc · 02-11-2011 3:19am

irishbucsfan wrote: »

In terms of his attacking talent Carr should absolutely be starting. I don't know if his defense is up to it though... saying that Dave Kearney was atrocious in defense last weekend so maybe Carr is the right way to go.

I reckon Fitz will start at 11 though. I'd prefer him at 12 and Carr at 11 but we need experience in the centers...

I guess it'll be:

Healy, Best, Ross, Cullen, Toner, O'Brien, Jennings, Heaslip, Reddan, Sexton, Fitzgerald, D'Arcy, McFadden, Nacewa, Kearney

Did I miss something rather significant?

funky penguin · 02-11-2011 4:36am

http://www.rabodirectpro12.com/news/11385.php

totallegend · 02-11-2011 9:26am

O'Brien likely to return, Reddan a doubt with illness:
http://irishexaminer.ie/sport/rugby/obrien-looks-set-to-face-munster-172535.html

Reddan missing out wouldn't be a disaster, Boss looked sharp against Edinburgh, but it would have been good to give as many people as possible some game time before the HC.

GerM · 02-11-2011 9:40am

[Jackass] wrote: »

Trust me man, he's going to come good. And when he does, he'll be something else.

He would want to get a move on then. He's not going to be in the HEC match day squad and he's only on a 1 year deal. I reckon he has two windows to impress: the opening 6 games of the season and the handful of games played throughout the 6N. The first and the biggest has passed him by with one very good performance and three or four anonymous showings followed by being dropped. I would think the signs don't look good. Come the 6N, Conway should be fit and competing for the jersey and Shaggy could possibly be involved too.

GerM · 02-11-2011 9:57am

Rumour that JHW has signed for Bristol on LF. All the best, if true. Quite the step down for him but he should get regular game time there and he's young. Bristol are top of the Championship currently so it's feasible that he could be starting in a Premiership side this time next year.

wixfjord · 02-11-2011 10:13am

totallegend wrote: »

O'Brien likely to return, Reddan a doubt with illness:
http://irishexaminer.ie/sport/rugby/obrien-looks-set-to-face-munster-172535.html

Reddan missing out wouldn't be a disaster, Boss looked sharp against Edinburgh, but it would have been good to give as many people as possible some game time before the HC.

****, Reddan and BoD out would be a big leveller imo.

02-11-2011 10:21am

GerM wrote: »

Rumour that JHW has signed for Bristol on LF. All the best, if true. Quite the step down for him but he should get regular game time there and he's young. Bristol are top of the Championship currently so it's feasible that he could be starting in a Premiership side this time next year.

hopefully he'll get some sense kicked into him and he'll come back in 3/4 years and be ready to play with a proper head on him.

bamboozle · 02-11-2011 10:23am

GerM wrote: »

Rumour that JHW has signed for Bristol on LF. All the best, if true. Quite the step down for him but he should get regular game time there and he's young. Bristol are top of the Championship currently so it's feasible that he could be starting in a Premiership side this time next year.

good move for him, he was struggling for game time at Clontarf behind Dundon, he'll be joining Clontarf's 2 wingers from last season in the Championship, Keating at Doncaster and Mick McGrath at Plymouth

totallegend · 02-11-2011 10:27am

Deleted User wrote: »

hopefully he'll get the sense kicked into him and he'll come back in 3/4 years and be ready to play with a proper head on him.

OK Emmet, let it go.

02-11-2011 10:37am

totallegend wrote: »

OK Emmet, let it go.

?

He's a serious talent, just hate seeing attitude get in the way of progression. The move rumoured could be absolutely exactly what he needs, and could shape him into the kind of player that he easily could be.

totallegend · 02-11-2011 10:53am

Deleted User wrote: »

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He's a serious talent, just hate seeing attitude get in the way of progression. The move rumoured could be absolutely exactly what he needs, and could shape him into the kind of player that he easily could be.

Just anytime he gets mentioned, someone has to stick the boot in about his attitude and such (not singling you out); let's just be positive and wish the guy the best.

02-11-2011 10:58am

totallegend wrote: »

Just anytime he gets mentioned, someone has to stick the boot in about his attitude and such (not singling you out); let's just be positive and wish the guy the best.

"hopefully he'll get some sense kicked into him and he'll come back in 3/4 years and be ready to play with a proper head on him."

- positivity

totallegend · 02-11-2011 11:09am

Deleted User wrote: »

"hopefully he'll get some sense kicked into him and he'll come back in 3/4 years and be ready to play with a proper head on him."

- positivity

We won't fall out over it, but that's hardly an emotional bon voyage

Anyway, the main thing is that he has a better chance of getting game time there and hopefully he'll develop as a player; is/was one of the Blaney brothers at Bristol? Might be good for him to have an Irish presence there to help him settle in.

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