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Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread.

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  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ Maxine Wrong Grits


    Berne is Cheika's man isn't he? Followed him from more than one club?

    Guess Schmidt just doesn't rate him/ doesn't see the point in playing him when we have improving talent at our disposal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Guess Schmidt just doesn't rate him/ doesn't see the point in playing him when we have improving talent at our disposal.
    I totally agree with that strategy. They are both solid hopes for the future and they need game time. I have to wonder which one will be Sexton's backup and which will leave as I don't see them both staying long term.
    CouchSmart wrote: »
    Hines contract is up this year too, surely we'll have to extend that.
    I expect his contract to be renewed. That said I wouldn't be surprised if Leinster are putting some pressure on him to retire from international rugby after the WC. He is getting on in years and at that age there is only so many games a season that he can play.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,193 ✭✭✭[Jackass]


    So, remarably, coming from one of the toughest groups in Heineken Cup history, probably only second to the 2008 group of Leicester, Toulouse, Leinster & Edinburgh, we will qualify as minimum 3rd best group winner and will have a home quarter final.

    The possible outcomes are:

    If Saints beat Castres and Toulouse beat Wasps, we will be 3rd seed and will play the worst group winner, which will be Toulon.

    If either of those teams DON'T win (most likely Toulouse away to Wasps) we will be second seed and will play the best runner up, which will come from either Leicester, Perpingan, Ulster or Biarritz. Most likely, it will be either Perpingan or Biarritz (assuming Perpingan fail to get a bonus win v Scarlets and Biarritz fail to get a bonus win v Bath and Ulster and Leicester both get bonus wins v Italian opposition.) and of those two, Leicester have the better try record.

    SO, it will be either Toulon or Leicester in Lansdowne Road. That's how I call it. Neither are an easy draw.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,207 ✭✭✭durkadurka


    I think we can have anyone in lansdowne


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭jolley123


    durkadurka wrote: »
    I think we can have anyone in lansdowne

    I'd agree, although the QF are in April so you never know what could happen between now and then. But at the moment I think we are the most inform team in Europe.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,320 ✭✭✭Teferi


    jolley123 wrote: »
    I'd agree, although the QF are in April so you never know what could happen between now and then. But at the moment I think we are the most inform team in Europe.

    Yep, definitely. Let's hope we can keep the form and that it plays into the national squad for the 6N and we come out the other side with no injuries or any concerns. If we do keep the form I can see another Heineken Cup coming home. Whoever will be getting us for the QF will be scared of facing us in the Aviva.

    Yeah thats right. I'm getting ahead of myself :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭corny


    Of the possibles i wouldn't like to play Leicester. Against Toulon i'd strongly fancy us to win. USAP would be a bit tougher but i'd still say we'd take them. Just hope we get a home Semi this time.

    Just on that, is the draw for the Semis this weekend? I could be wrong but isn't it done well in advance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 532 ✭✭✭roycon


    leo auvaa was training regularly with the leinster team at the start of the season. after last season he was offered a contract with a french first division team supposedly but old belvo are paying him big money and he runs the show for them in the ail. he stopped training with leinster because he didnt have a work permit saying he could play with leinster just for ob. he must have got the work permit if hes back playing with leinster again. hes a class act , good hands quick and massive


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭jolley123


    corny wrote: »
    Of the possibles i wouldn't like to play Leicester. Against Toulon i'd strongly fancy us to win. USAP would be a bit tougher but i'd still say we'd take them. Just hope we get a home Semi this time.

    Just on that, is the draw for the Semis this weekend? I could be wrong but isn't it done well in advance.

    Sunday evening, after the last match of round 6.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭CouchSmart


    Meanwhile, former Leinster coach Michael Cheika has said he has no intention of raiding his old side after being linked with a move to bring outhalf Jonathan Sexton to Stade Francais.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2011/0122/1224288088064.html

    :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 751 ✭✭✭lologram


    Wasn't there a report that the big threat was not from Cheika's Stade Francais but from Toulouse? Let's face it, Skrela is not that great a player, and he's in a team which has a good few great players. Trying to sign Sexton would make sense for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Hopefully some of the extra money we'll get from moving the Quarter Final to the Aviva will go to Mr. Sexton!

    Interesting quote from Schmidt on O'Brien:
    “He wasn’t too bad again. One of the great advantages of Seán is that he can play any of the three loose forward positions. There’s a lot of players who play dynamically who have three or four impressive carries, but the number of quality involvements Seán has are ridiculous. I really hope he gets some opportunities in the upcoming weeks. If not he’ll be nice and fresh for us anyway.”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,320 ✭✭✭Teferi


    Why do people get worried that players will move away? I think the IRFU have made it advantageous to stay in Ireland at this stage, not to mention Leinster are doing very well atm.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭almighty1


    When will the Aviva be confirmed for the HC QF? If its moved there then hopefully it should be easy to get some tickets.


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,346 ✭✭✭wixfjord


    almighty1 wrote: »
    When will the Aviva be confirmed for the HC QF? If its moved there then hopefully it should be easy to get some tickets.

    It'll have to be there imo.
    Just makes complete sense, and a bit of marketing would mean a full house.
    Plus it doesn't seem to harm our performance when we've played there. Two big wins so far!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,219 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    im not sure how much marketing would be needed.

    it was pretty close to full if not full in 2005 in lansdowne against leicester. there was a good contingent came over from leicester if i remember too.

    a sunny april day with two top class teams playing for a semi final spot, what more could you want!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,207 ✭✭✭durkadurka


    They got 43k for a group game vs clermont in the coldest weather imaginable. They priced it right though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭CouchSmart


    Leinster A won today, 30-7. Try bonus, Conway bagged two and Macken and McGrath the others.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,880 ✭✭✭Hippo


    We have the huge advantage of the qf at home, but I'll just say now that the most important part of the Leinster jigsaw at present is SOB.

    He didn't play against the Ospreys recently, and for the whole game we struggled without his go-forward ball. It's critical for our chances that he's still fit at the end of the 6N. He provides the platform in open play that allows the rest of the team to throw the ball around. Fingers and toes crossed...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭CouchSmart


    Hippo wrote: »
    We have the huge advantage of the qf at home, but I'll just say now that the most important part of the Leinster jigsaw at present is SOB.

    He didn't play against the Ospreys recently, and for the whole game we struggled without his go-forward ball. It's critical for our chances that he's still fit at the end of the 6N. He provides the platform in open play that allows the rest of the team to throw the ball around. Fingers and toes crossed...

    Ye, I'm really nervous that our play this year has been totally based on his ability to make any kind of ball, go-forward ball.

    I suggested earlier in this thread or on the Racing thread that we should have tried out a back row without him to see how it went, though obviously with Heaslip still struggling it could never have happened.

    Hopefully he doesn't get injured during the 6N.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,246 ✭✭✭trackguy


    Hippo wrote: »
    We have the huge advantage of the qf at home, but I'll just say now that the most important part of the Leinster jigsaw at present is SOB.

    He didn't play against the Ospreys recently, and for the whole game we struggled without his go-forward ball. It's critical for our chances that he's still fit at the end of the 6N. He provides the platform in open play that allows the rest of the team to throw the ball around. Fingers and toes crossed...

    Wouldn't read too much into the one player and that one game. It was pissing rain and it was freezing during the Ospreys game.

    Also, Heaslip was struggling for alot of that game. He got injured quite early on I think.

    SOB is very important and his absence weakens the team alot but I wouldn't say his absence would be critical. The team could paper over the cracks - give Heaslip more of the ball, bring Shaggy up the middle more. McLaughlin is also an adequate replacement.

    I think Leinster would be in far more trouble if Sexton got injured during the 6N.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭Gracelessly Tom


    I reckon the two key players for Leinster winning the cup are Sexton and Ross. We've enough quality backrowers to cover a few losses there with Ruddock, Ryan and McLaughlin.

    Lets just hope for an injury free 6 nations!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭RMD


    wixfjord wrote: »
    It'll have to be there imo.
    Just makes complete sense, and a bit of marketing would mean a full house.
    Plus it doesn't seem to harm our performance when we've played there. Two big wins so far!

    Wouldn't see much marketing needed in fairness, as mentioned we got 43k at the Clermont game which was in freezing weather and that was a group game. A home QF in good weather, could sell the 50 quite possibly as long as they're priced right.

    Anyone know how many Leicster players will be involved in the 6N?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    RMD wrote: »
    Wouldn't see much marketing needed in fairness, as mentioned we got 43k at the Clermont game which was in freezing weather and that was a group game. A home QF in good weather, could sell the 50 quite possibly as long as they're priced right.

    Anyone know how many Leicster players will be involved in the 6N?

    20 between the Ireland and Scotland senior squad and the irish wolfhounds


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,207 ✭✭✭durkadurka


    Ha ha he said Leicester!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    durkadurka wrote: »
    Ha ha he said Leicester!
    sorry I see a l on this thread and think leinster, 10 leicster tigers between the two english squads
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/rugby_union/9358903.stm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭Thanos


    Anybody got an idea when we will know which day we are playing for the Q/F and then the Semi (if we get there)? Is it usually know a week or so after the draw?


  • Registered Users Posts: 872 ✭✭✭smurphy29


    Thanos wrote: »
    Anybody got an idea when we will know which day we are playing for the Q/F and then the Semi (if we get there)? Is it usually know a week or so after the draw?
    Today or tomorrow according to the IT.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2011/0124/1224288163280.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,608 ✭✭✭Spud83


    Heaslip just tweeted "a week of decisions", a contract announcement maybe? Would be nice to know either way.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭Gracelessly Tom


    Spud83 wrote: »
    Heaslip just tweeted "a week of decisions", a contract announcement maybe? Would be nice to know either way.

    Wardrobe issues maybe?? :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,207 ✭✭✭durkadurka


    Wardrobe issues maybe?? :p

    Usually his decisions revolve around which music to listen to or which burger joint to plug, but I think he's trying to tell us something here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭Thanos


    Wardrobe issues maybe?? :p

    Could be.................. White boots or Yellow boots, white or yellow, white or yellow....:rolleyes:


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ Maxine Wrong Grits


    Thanos wrote: »
    Could be.................. White boots or Yellow boots, white or yellow, white or yellow....:rolleyes:

    Shake n Bake either way!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭Thanos


    Leinster move Heineken Cup quarter final to the Aviva Stadium
    Think we all knew that was coming but confirmed now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,407 ✭✭✭✭justsomebloke


    Thanos wrote: »
    Leinster move Heineken Cup quarter final to the Aviva Stadium
    Think we all knew that was coming but confirmed now.

    balls would have much prefered this to be in the RDS


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,880 ✭✭✭Hippo


    balls would have much prefered this to be in the RDS

    Means we get more supporters in and Leinster make plenty of cash. The team seems pretty comfortable playing there as well, don't really see many disadvantages.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,219 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    as a south stand season ticket holder i somehow got dumped in the north stand of the aviva which i can see many disadvantages to (its now the school boy stand for ireland games)

    but this is game is outside the season ticket holder remit so i dont see any problems to it and hopefully i'll be able to get a good seat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,207 ✭✭✭durkadurka


    CatFromHue wrote: »
    as a south stand season ticket holder i somehow got dumped in the north stand of the aviva which i can see many disadvantages to (its now the school boy stand for ireland games)

    but this is game is outside the season ticket holder remit so i dont see any problems to it and hopefully i'll be able to get a good seat.


    I expect you'll be in the same situation. eg last year for the clermont home qf I was given the same seat.

    In lansdowne I was sitting beside the same people etc.

    It appears as if they take the seat numbers and transplant them to the new stadium, so I expect wherever they put you last time they'll put you again.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,219 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    durkadurka wrote: »
    I expect you'll be in the same situation. eg last year for the clermont home qf I was given the same seat.

    In lansdowne I was sitting beside the same people etc.

    It appears as if they take the seat numbers and transplant them to the new stadium, so I expect wherever they put you last time they'll put you again.

    i really hope not.

    i know last year the quarter you could only buy a ticket for where you sit. this is fair enough as it was in the rds.

    for the aviva i hope you can buy a ticket for wherever due to the larger capacity


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,037 ✭✭✭conf101


    CatFromHue wrote: »
    i really hope not.

    i know last year the quarter you could only buy a ticket for where you sit. this is fair enough as it was in the rds.

    for the aviva i hope you can buy a ticket for wherever due to the larger capacity

    That would seem to be the best way to do it. Some sort of pre-sale for season ticket holders but we get to choose where we purchase tickets for. It's also the way I'd imagine they'll do it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,954 ✭✭✭LeeroyJones


    http://www.leinsterrugby.ie/newsroom/7291.php

    Leinster Rugby are delighted to announce the signing of Ireland hooker Sean Cronin who will join the province in the summer on a two year deal...
    Cronin, 24, was educated at Ardscoil Rís in Limerick and has previously played with Munster and Connacht, whom he joined in the summer of 2008.
    A former Ireland Schools representative, Cronin featured in the AIB League for Shannon and he earned his first Ireland cap against Fiji in the RDS in November 2009, incidentally in the same match as Jonathan Sexton and Sean O’Brien.

    He won his first start against New Zealand in the 2010 Summer Tests and also started against Australia. Cronin has also represented Ireland Schools, U-19, U-21, and ‘A’ (Ireland Wolfhounds) levels.

    The Limerick man played three games in the recent Guinness series against Samoa, New Zealand and Argentina and has featured 7 times for Ireland to date.

    Sean Cronin said: “I am delighted to put pen to paper on a deal to join Leinster this summer and I believe that with the exciting players in the squad, the future looks bright.

    “I have been hugely impressed by Leinster’s displays both in the Magners League and in the Heineken Cup so far this season and the province’s ambitions mirror my own. Hopefully I can establish myself in the squad when I join up in a few months time.

    “I am grateful for the opportunity that Connacht have given me over the last three years to play for a fantastic club. They will continue to grow from strength to strength under Eric Elwood and the existing management team and I will do my utmost to help improve our Magners League standing over the coming months.”

    Commenting on Cronin’s signing, Leinster Coach Joe Schmidt said: “It’s great that Sean has confirmed that he will join us this summer. He is a dynamic and talented front rower who will add experience at hooker following the retirement of John Fogarty earlier this season.”

    Great signing for Leinster. 2 great hookers on the books next year. Bad news for Tom Sexton and JHW, surely heading for the exit if they want to adance their careers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,222 ✭✭✭crisco10


    conf101 wrote: »
    That would seem to be the best way to do it. Some sort of pre-sale for season ticket holders but we get to choose where we purchase tickets for. It's also the way I'd imagine they'll do it.

    That would take away the concentration of STH though to get chants going etc.

    I expect to be in the same seat I was in for the Clermont game.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,684 ✭✭✭JustinDee


    conf101 wrote: »
    That would seem to be the best way to do it. Some sort of pre-sale for season ticket holders but we get to choose where we purchase tickets for. It's also the way I'd imagine they'll do it.

    Season ticket holders would most likely be allocated places in advance. The rest would go on public sale.

    Check with the branch's ticketing dept as to where these allocations are. You're not going to get much in the way of answers here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Cue thousands of Strauss v. Cronin debates over the next 2 years


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭CouchSmart


    1. Healy
    2. Cronin
    3. Ross
    4. Cullen
    5. Toner
    6. SOB
    7. Jennings
    8. Heaslip

    9. Reddan
    10. Sexton
    11. Fitzgerald
    12. D'Arcy
    13. BOD
    14. Horgan
    15. Kearney

    :) All Irish.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,037 ✭✭✭conf101


    JustinDee wrote: »
    Season ticket holders would most likely be allocated places in advance. The rest would go on public sale.

    Check with the branch's ticketing dept as to where these allocations are. You're not going to get much in the way of answers here.

    It doesn't bother me that much tbh. I was happy with my seat for the previous 2 matches and would happily sit there again for the QF. I just thought they might give season ticket holders a chance to buy more tickets than just their own seat in some sort of pre-sale, something like 4 tickets per person or something like that. Maybe I'm completely off the mark.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭Thanos


    Cue thousands of Strauss v. Cronin debates over the next 2 years

    I think your right. But looking at the was Boss and Reddan, Healy and HVM have been used just gives us great strength in the squad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭Thanos


    conf101 wrote: »
    It doesn't bother me that much tbh. I was happy with my seat for the previous 2 matches and would happily sit there again for the QF. I just thought they might give season ticket holders a chance to buy more tickets than just their own seat in some sort of pre-sale, something like 4 tickets per person or something like that. Maybe I'm completely off the mark.

    Not sure about 4 but I would be surprised if you could not get 2 for any season ticket you hold.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    CouchSmart wrote: »
    1. Healy
    2. Cronin
    3. Ross
    4. Cullen
    5. Toner
    6. SOB
    7. Jennings
    8. Heaslip

    9. Reddan
    10. Sexton
    11. Fitzgerald
    12. D'Arcy
    13. BOD
    14. Horgan
    15. Kearney

    :) All Irish.

    16. JHW
    17. McGrath
    18. Sherriff
    19. Ryan
    20. Boss
    21. Madigan
    22. McFadden

    :)

    (couldn't get the extra prop for a 23 man squad!)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,037 ✭✭✭conf101


    Actually 4 is a bit much when you consider there are something like 13,000 season ticket holders. But didn't we have the option of buying 4 for the Clermont game?


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