Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread.

irishbucsfan

thomond2006 wrote: »

Fitz has been out of the Ireland picture for 12 months due to form and injury, from the IRFU's POV do they want to give an international contract to that player?

Then again, the bloody fools gave one to Leamy which defeats any kind of logic.

During which time he's been in excellent form for the best team in Europe. He hasnt played for ireland due to unlucky injuries, nothing to do with his ability.

It would be totally stupid to follow that line of logic!

CatFromHue

thomond2006 wrote: »

Fitz has been out of the Ireland picture for 12 months due to form and injury, from the IRFU's POV do they want to give an international contract to that player?

Then again, the bloody fools gave one to Leamy which defeats any kind of logic.

It's very awkward to comment here as we barely any of the information. Leamy could have taken a big pay cut to secure his contract, we just don't know.

D'arcy and Stringer have said they took paycuts, I think they did anyway, when they were last in contract negotiations.

What we do know is that Kearney and Ross signed new deals last March and that come May the only news you tend to hear is of players signing with new clubs. Is Fitzgeralds contract up this summer?

CatFromHue

CatFromHue wrote: »

It's very awkward to comment here as we barely any of the information. Leamy could have taken a big pay cut to secure his contract, we just don't know.

D'arcy and Stringer have said they took paycuts, I think they did anyway, when they were last in contract negotiations.

What we do know is that Kearney and Ross signed new deals last March and that come May the only news you tend to hear is of players signing with new clubs. Is Fitzgeralds contract up this summer?

both of these were coming off central contracts and onto provisional contracts though.

I just wish they'd stop faffing about, call it yes or no, and if it's yes, happy days for Fitz, and if it's not, then let Leinster get into negotiations directly.

Wexfordboy89

irishbucsfan wrote: »

During which time he's been in excellent form for the best team in Europe. He hasnt played for ireland due to unlucky injuries, nothing to do with his ability.

It would be totally stupid to follow that line of logic!

true plus if the irfu go ahead with the new player rules next season they be looking for a new winger as they`ll have to let nacewa(spelling) go.

chancer12

CatFromHue wrote: »

It's very awkward to comment here as we barely any of the information. Leamy could have taken a big pay cut to secure his contract, we just don't know.

D'arcy and Stringer have said they took paycuts, I think they did anyway, when they were last in contract negotiations.

What we do know is that Kearney and Ross signed new deals last March and that come May the only news you tend to hear is of players signing with new clubs. Is Fitzgeralds contract up this summer?

Yes, it seems its up this summer and that its rather late in the season for him to sign anywhere else so they have him in a bit of a bind. He's only 24 so the comparison with d'Arcy and Stringer doesn't really hold. He's been unfortunate with injury but was really playing a stormer before Christmas. The fact he wasn't picked for the World Cup says more about Kidney than it does about Luke's ability.

danthefan

It would be a massive blow to Leinster if Fitz left. And he was outstanding in the early part of the season before he got injured.

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ktulu123

Just read on the Herald there that there are over 15,000 expected to go over for the game. Surely that's a mistake no? I would be delighted with 5,000 of us

Teferi

danthefan wrote: »

It would be a massive blow to Leinster if Fitz left. And he was outstanding in the early part of the season before he got injured.

While it would be a blow to lose him, our backs are where we have some of the strongest depth. He would be replaced easily enough by one of the solid younger guys but he does has that x-factor you need when it's squeaky bum time.

Clegg

I read the same thing but I assumed they meant 1,500.

Seph503

CatFromHue wrote: »

D'arcy and Stringer have said they took paycuts, I think they did anyway, when they were last in contract negotiations.

Even if they were negotiating international contracts at the time surely Leamy getting one at reduced pay isn't the point.

Leamy would/should be nowhere near the starting team or bench anyway. So why have one?

I'm of the opinion that international contracts should be for our nailed on matchday 22. Hence why Earls got one recently and why Fitz shouldn't. Not that Fitz has been bad but he's been out of the international scene and Earls, Trimble and Bowe have been the incumbents the last while.

profitius

Fitz is a victim of supply and demand. When he burst on the scene there wasn't too many quality wingers around. Now theres plenty around the same level as Fitz so his value to the IRFU has down down.

irishbucsfan

Seph503 wrote: »

CatFromHue wrote: »

D'arcy and Stringer have said they took paycuts, I think they did anyway, when they were last in contract negotiations.

Even if they were negotiating international contracts at the time surely Leamy getting one at reduced pay isn't the point.

Leamy would/should be nowhere near the starting team or bench anyway. So why have one?

I'm of the opinion that international contracts should be for our nailed on matchday 22. Hence why Earls got one recently and why Fitz shouldn't. Not that Fitz has been bad but he's been out of the international scene and Earls, Trimble and Bowe have been the incumbents the last while.

Ok, so if Ferris picks up an injury and misses a few months of international rugby should we take his contract off him?

And when players start getting dealt huge paycuts due to getting injured while carrying out their jobs, why should they bother staying here? How is that fair?

Fitzgerald was a lions starter at 21. It's nuts to be marginalising him before he even hits the peak of his career.

Kinger83

Nathan Hines on newstalk at the mo.

LEIN

Kinger83 wrote: »

Nathan Hines on newstalk at the mo.

What he say?

Kinger83

DD9090 wrote: »

What he say?

They asked him if he remembered many of the Leinster calls and the like, he said his memory was a bit foggy.. which he would say!

Also talked about how he didn't want to leave Leinster and how he's been chatting to a few of his ex teammates this week ahead of the game. He also said he doesn't deliberately set out to be an annoying player to play against.. he just wants to stay on the front foot and not give an inch.

totallegend

Word on the Clermont fans forum is that Lee Byrne broke a finger in training today, might just be a WUM though.

durkadurka

Should we put something out there? Like Seanie didn't get enough spuds today or something?

Clegg

Good news. His new contract will see him stay until the end of the 2014 season.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2012/0426/1224315192700.html

totallegend

totallegend wrote: »

Word on the Clermont fans forum is that Lee Byrne broke a finger in training today, might just be a WUM though.

Just FYI, he did break a finger but it will not keep him out of the game.

Teferi

totallegend wrote: »

Just FYI, he did break a finger but it will not keep him out of the game.

All that means is that if his hand is loose in a ruck it will be targeted for special attention.

.ak

Hrmm, as a FB it must be difficult fielding high ball with a broken finger... wrapped or not.

Fishooks12

.ak wrote: »

Hrmm, as a FB it must be difficult fielding high ball with a broken finger... wrapped or not.

Broke my finger a few years back and played 2 games with it strapped before finally getting it checked out

Was uncomfortable catching the ball (15 too btw) but the thing that suffered most was my passing

Now it might not be the same for Lee but I really wasn't at full pace with the injury

Winters

I played on with a dislocation and it certainly hampered me. I wouldn't take too much heed of this news though, its not beyond clubs and coaches to be playing mind games and trying to disrupt preparation at this stage. I doubt Joe is taking any notice about this at all.

Dravokivich

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[Jackass]

Jayzus, that's a dirty looking lunch that Lee Byrne is having. Wonder what that's under in the specialist dieticians plan!! :pac:

I'm growing a little bit more confident as the week goes on, still bricking it though.

Great news re Nacewa. Signed for a further 2 seasons (after this) and until he's 31. He'll be a massive loss when he goes, but that's 6 great years minimum we;ll have gotten out of him.

tolosenc

Watching the Rugby Club, Stuart Barnes is backing Leinster. Interestingly, Will Greenwood mentioned that the balls for the draw are hot and cold?

.ak

tolosenc wrote: »

Watching the Rugby Club, Stuart Barnes is backing Leinster. Interestingly, Will Greenwood mentioned that the balls for the draw are hot and cold?

What's that mean exactly?

[Jackass]

Presumably, in order to fix the draw for Biarritz (who have never played a semi final in either competition outside of France, something like 6 / 6, and have about a 80% success ratio in drawing Italian teams, about 8 /10 iirc, seeding and no seeding) that the balls are "hot" and "cold" to determine the outcome of the draw when being preformed in front of a live audience (as it used to be conducted behind closed doors and took a long time before they would agree to do it publicly, so presumably until they found a solution to continue fixing the draws...)

Some say tinfoil hat material, some say FACT!

.ak

[Jackass] wrote: »

Presumably, in order to fix the draw for Biarritz (who have never played a semi final in either competition outside of France, and have about a 80% success ratio in drawing Italian teams, seeding and no seeding) that the balls are "hot" and "cold" to determine the outcome of the draw when being preformed in front of a live audience (as it used to be conducted behind closed doors and took a long time before they would agree to do it publicly, so presumably until they found a solution to continue fixing the draws...)

Some say tinfoil hat material, some say FACT!

Hrmm, but aren't all the draws done infront of Sky broadcasters.. i.e they're endorsing the draw, and now one of their pundits is openly calling it a fix?