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thomond2006

Buer wrote: »

Can't believe that Racing haven't brought on a scrum half.

You have to take off a winger for a 9.

nc6000

It's the same ref who sent Stander off a couple of weeks back.

errlloyd

Jesus Christ Racing...

Kiwi_knock

Well worked try

thomond2006

Not only are Racing playing without a 9, they have moved their best back there. This is madness.

thomond2006

Fernandez Ligind and Gorgodzilla. Glorious rugby.

Buer

Great kick to keep Racing within striking distance if they can pull something special out of the fire.

Crucial they don't concede again quickly.

matthew8

errlloyd wrote: »

Statistically it's 5 points for every 10 mins on the clock.


But they're also getting destroyed in the scrum. And toulon have HP

Do you know where you got that statistic from? Not disputing it's true for teams with a man down from a yellow, but it seems like red card matches never develop into the drubbings they promise by that metric.

vienne86

matthew8 wrote: »

Do you know where you got that statistic from? Not disputing it's true for teams with a man down from a yellow, but it seems like red card matches never develop into the drubbings they promise by that metric.

The only place I've heard that statistic mantioned before is in a Sky commentary.

thomond2006

Racing are doing great to stay in this. They still need Phillips on!

vienne86

Well fair play to Racing - only 2 points in it at half time.

matthew8

vienne86 wrote: »

The only place I've heard that statistic mantioned before is in a Sky commentary.

I think a big factor in the stat could be the points scored from the actual penalty that leads to the card, and this could be a reason the statistic might not carry over to reds.

thomond2006

Idiocy from Gorgodze. As great as he is, he's always been a penalty machine.

Buer

matthew8 wrote: »

Do you know where you got that statistic from? Not disputing it's true for teams with a man down from a yellow, but it seems like red card matches never develop into the drubbings they promise by that metric.

It completely varies by team and league. There was a big analysis done on it a couple of years ago. I think on average a yellow card equated to conceding 3.5 points in the AP.

Buer

thomond2006 wrote: »

Racing are doing great to stay in this. They still need Phillips on!

I'll bet you €50 they don't bring him on.

thomond2006

It's completely wrong to show Machenaud in the dressing room. It's bad enough getting sent off without having your anguish afterwards being broadcast.

errlloyd

matthew8 wrote: »

Do you know where you got that statistic from? Not disputing it's true for teams with a man down from a yellow, but it seems like red card matches never develop into the drubbings they promise by that metric.

Honestly no idea. But I disagree about games not becoming drubbings. Scotland's record loss to Wales came after a red for Hogg. Sometimes it galvanizes teams, but it mentally weakens them in other situations.

vienne86

thomond2006 wrote: »

It's completely wrong to show Machenaud in the dressing room. It's bad enough getting sent off without having your anguish afterwards being broadcast.

Horrible. No one wanted to see that.

vienne86

Racing in front!!!!!

Dave_The_Sheep

All Toulon at the start of the second, but it's Racing who score first. Not bad.

thomond2006

Yo Toulon, wake up.

Buer

Toulon are getting tetchy. Good stuff. Another 3 pointer from Racing and they're going to start to feel a bit of pressure and hopefully panic. They don't have the multiple cool heads they once had.

LuckyGent88

Come on racing

thomond2006

Buer wrote: »

Toulon are getting tetchy. Good stuff. Another 3 pointer from Racing and they're going to start to feel a bit of pressure and hopefully panic. They don't have the multiple cool heads they once had.

Michalak is on the bench to offer a cool head.

vienne86

It'll be interesting to see how Racing handle this 10 minutes with yer an in the bin.

thomond2006

Chiocci binned and 4 points down. Toulon's bench is pretty callow, no gamechangers there tbh.

Buer

Jesus. That one would have been out on the full if the pitch was 10m wider.

swiwi_

It's ironic you guys are arguing about red cards leading to inevitable defeats...

errlloyd

swiwi_ wrote: »

It's ironic you guys are arguing about red cards leading to inevitable defeats...

TBH I do it partly to play the underdog thing

vienne86

Aw hell - really hoped Racing would score there. Some great offloading.

thomond2006

Goosen is a fantastic player.

thomond2006

What a cheap penalty.

Dave_The_Sheep

Bloody hell, Racing.

Buer

I don't see Toulon's bench as being strong enough to turn this around even with the extra man.

They've looked very pedestrian in the backs despite their talent out there.

vienne86

And now a try! Im loving this! Go Racing!

errlloyd

What a ****ing try.

Buer

Rocketman!

dastardly00

Unbelievable!!

SlickRic

Dan Carter never ceases to amaze me.

thomond2006

Rokocoko. Wow.

Adbrowne

score plz?

swiwi_

Ah, I get it now. If you go down to 14 men you are statistically more likely to win. Got it.

Although in fairness it is 14 vs 14 of course at the moment.

Buer

I want them to win but Racing are way offside all night.

Absoluvely

Never seen a team concede 20 unanswered points against 14 men.

Toulon deserve everything they get.

swiwi_

Why is HP not in NZ?

Has he retired from international rugby?

Or just not picked by Gatland?

thomond2006

swiwi_ wrote: »

Why is HP not in NZ?

Has he retired from international rugby?

Or just not picked by Gatland?

Not fit for the start of the tour I think.

washman3

SlickRic wrote: »

Dan Carter never ceases to amaze me.

Hard to believe he is the second best outhalf in the world, behind Jonathan Sexton....:rolleyes

thomond2006

Absoluvely wrote: »

Never seen a team concede 20 unanswered points against 14 men.

Toulon deserve everything they get.

Toulon conceded 11 when it was 14 v 14 in fairness.

Buer

washman3 wrote: »

Hard to believe he is the second best outhalf in the world, behind Jonathan Sexton....:rolleyes

Third.

Jackson.

swiwi_

I thought Goosen would get a stack of caps for SA. Seriously shafted by the Boks coaches. Not really sure he's a 13, but he's a handy player.