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swiwi_

Lucky Carter pulled that horror DG out now and not 2015

vienne86

Toulon actually look a bit out on their feet to me.

thomond2006

swiwi_ wrote: »

Lucky Carter pulled that horror DG out now and not 2015

Runs time off the clock...

dastardly00

The aerial shots of the Camp Nou are pretty class.

vienne86

That looked too easy for Toulon - easy conversion too.

errlloyd

I think Mermoz was in front of the offloading player.

Buer

Toulon finally making yards and the Racing legs looking very heavy suddenly. That penalty is a terrible one to concede. 40m yielded with no resistance.

dastardly00

Halfpenny subbed off.

Buer

Racing have to take a tactical penalty here and kill the ball at a ruck.

EDIT: Not needed.

dastardly00

5 minutes left to hold on now.

thomond2006

Camp Nou is above international standard.

vienne86

This looks ominous. Huge scrum for Toulon in front of the posts.

Buer

Has to be a smell of a penalty try coming here to win it.

Dave_The_Sheep

Huge decision that.

[edit] actually a lot easier from the other side.

vienne86

Ah wow. Racing win a penalty!

swiwi_

Is that legal to bring a prop back on who went off injured??

Buer

Massive. The change by Laurent x 2 looks like it's a title winner.

thomond2006

How the feck is Tameifuna back on?!

dastardly00

The hook from the Racing player, wow!

vienne86

Clever clever play by Racing. Fab lineout and now a penalty.

Buer

Advantage! That has to be game. Let Carter kick it and win the title.

vienne86

Dan Carter, I love you!

former total

Tamefuina (or whatever his name is) looked to be driving in at an angle on that scrum, no?

Delighted for Racing anyway

Buer

thomond2006 wrote: »

How the feck is Tameifuna back on?!

I'll need to dig out the law book as I'm completely befuddled.

That change was the winning of the title. Ducalon stays on and I'd say a Toulon try was likely.

swiwi_

swiwi_ wrote: »

Is that legal to bring a prop back on who went off injured??

thomond2006 wrote: »

How the feck is Tameifuna back on?!

This forum would be a fun place if the Boks pull that trick tomorrow.

I assume it's allowed in the Top 14??

vienne86

Yes!

Buer

Carter p*sses ice cubes.

Delighted for Machenaud. Deserved to be sent off but did not deserve to carry the guilt of a title lost.

vienne86

swiwi_ wrote: »

This forum would be a fun place if the Boks pull that trick tomorrow.

I assume it's allowed in the Top 14??

Must be, cos they did it before. Big call.

thomond2006

Good man ROG!

swiwi_

vienne86 wrote: »

Must be, cos they did it before. Big call.

I don't agree with it at all.

It's like league with the interchange rule or Gridiron.

No-one here cares because everyone (including me) was for Racing, but I don't like it.

Was Tameifuna injured or "injured"?

Buer

swiwi_ wrote: »

Was Tameifuna injured or "injured"?

If he was marked as injured coming off, he's not permitted to return. That's in the laws and not open to local jurisdiction, as far as I'm aware.

If he's marked as tactical, he can return to the field under certain circumstances (blood, HIA and needing to secure a scrum in the closing minutes of the T14 final, apparently).

In the infamous bloodgate incident, you can hear Owens asking the official if he had marked Evans down as a tactical or injured departure from the game.

thomond2006

Class act.

https://twitter.com/YonKab64/status/746444642879737856?s=09

errlloyd

As far as I know you're limited to 7 changes. But you can use them roll on roll off if you want. I guess that's why they never brought on a back.

swiwi_

The commentators didn't squeal at all. So it must be OK.

Man, I really hope that isn't generalised across all rugby.

He limped off...

swiwi_

errlloyd wrote: »

As far as I know you're limited to 7 changes. But you can use them roll on roll off if you want. I guess that's why they never brought on a back.

OK, so it is like rugby league then with an interchange bench.

Time to write a letter of protest.

thomond2006

swiwi_ wrote: »

The commentators didn't squeal at all. So it must be OK.

Man, I really hope that isn't generalised across all rugby.

He limped off...

He more than limped off!

vienne86

thomond2006 wrote: »

Class act.

https://twitter.com/YonKab64/status/746444642879737856?s=09

That's just lovely - well spotted, Thomond.

vienne86

What's with the pink bow tie?

errlloyd

vienne86 wrote: »

What's with the pink bow tie?

Apparently the Racing Metro team wore them out onto the field when they went on to win it in 1990.

P_1

vienne86 wrote: »

What's with the pink bow tie?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racing_92#Modern_eccentricity

former total

Buer wrote: »

If he was marked as injured coming off, he's not permitted to return. That's in the laws and not open to local jurisdiction, as far as I'm aware.

If he's marked as tactical, he can return to the field under certain circumstances (blood, HIA and needing to secure a scrum in the closing minutes of the T14 final, apparently).

In the infamous bloodgate incident, you can hear Owens asking the official if he had marked Evans down as a tactical or injured departure from the game.

Different rules for props though?

Edit: yes, rule 3.14.

If a player is substituted, that player may only return to play when replacing:
an injured front row player in accordance with Law 3.5
a player with a blood injury in accordance with Law 3.11
a player undertaking a Head Injury Assessment in accordance with Law 3.12
a player who has been injured as a result of foul play (as verified by the Match Officials).

Absoluvely

https://twitter.com/FCBarcelona/status/746446871749607424

Swan Curry

Can't believe I forgot this was on, I've been stuck watching rugby league for the night. Nice to see such a big stadium be filled for rugby.

thomond2006

I thought Phillips was on the bench for Racing. Unless Chauveau covers 9 I don't Racing had a replacement scrum-half.

Edit: Chauveau is listed as a 9 on the Racing site but I'm pretty sure the commentary were calling him a replacement 10.

Buer

thomond2006 wrote: »

I thought Phillips was on the bench for Racing. Unless Chauveau covers 9 I don't Racing had a replacement scrum-half.

Doesn't just cover it....he is a 9!

http://www.itsrugby.co.uk/player-zoom-31101-top14-2015-starter.html

thomond2006

Buer wrote: »

Doesn't just cover it....he is a 9!

http://www.itsrugby.co.uk/player-zoom-31101-top14-2015-starter.html

Maybe they didn't fancy bringing him on due to age/experience? Anyway they got away with it!

It was a dark day for Toulon. A lot of their signings for this season weren't available (Vermeulen, Nonu) or were just useless (Cooper) and that hurt them. Still they had enough quality in that lineup to win the game. I'd be concerned for them next year, bar Liam Gill and FTD there's not many top players arriving in the summer. Giteau and Habana (both turn 34 soon) look finished.

phog

From Twitter

Fair play to ROG.

Ronan O Gara ‏@RonanOGara10 Jun 25

Thanks to players(ex)+coaches @IrishRugby and @Munsterrugby for all the kind messages.Ye showed me the right values required to succeed.

vienne86

phog wrote: »

From Twitter

Fair play to ROG.

Well I'm not a great fan of Toulon or Racing, but of the two, I would prefer Racing. Delighted for ROG.

PetKing

vienne86 wrote:

Well I'm not a great fan of Toulon or Racing, but of the two, I would prefer Racing. Delighted for ROG.

I wouldn't be a Toulon fan at all, but found myself cheering them on for the sake of a good game, which I got
Still glad to see Racing close ot out.

iroced

I'm late to the party but that was a fantastic final. A great publicity for top14. That wasn't always the case lately.

A great performance from Racing. And credits to their coaches for lifting the spirits up at HT. I'm not a fan of their way of playing rugby but you have to give them credit when credit's due. And they're only the third ones to win the Brennus with 2 different clubs (after Laporte with SF & Toulon and Delmas with Biarritz & Toulon (assistant coach with Toulon)).

I just felt sorry for Guirado who played in his "garden" (Camp Nou is the dream stadium for every catalan) and had to get out injured. Unfair end of a great season from him, particularly under the Blue jersey.