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Dog Botherer

Heymans wrote: »

speak for yourself.

Shocking victory for Montpellier over Toulouse today

Not really, Montpelier were at home and Toulouse had a player red carded after about 15 minutes. Hard to read anything into a game like that.

Buer

Dog Botherer wrote: »

Not really, Montpelier were at home and Toulouse had a player red carded after about 15 minutes. Hard to read anything into a game like that.

It was already 21-3 when the red card came. Looks like it was going to be some pasting regardless.

shrapnel222

Buer wrote: »

It was already 21-3 when the red card came. Looks like it was going to be some pasting regardless.

Mola rested most of his first string and played his young players. They were all over the shop tbh. He took a massive risk and got punished for it.

Heymans

Olding just had another top class outing for Brive there. Set up a beautiful try by breaking from outhalf through the backline and spreading it wide. Top class.

Former Former

Heymans wrote: »

Olding just had another top class outing for Brive there. Set up a beautiful try by breaking from outhalf through the backline and spreading it wide. Top class.

His 'top class outing' lasted 11 minutes. He was red carded for an outrageous tip tackle.

nc6000

Here's the incident...

Check out @pauleddison’;s Tweet: https://twitter.com/pauleddison/status/1048921453566025728?s=09

Hard to make out what happened there - did the tackled player jump or is Olding a lot stronger than he looks?

Squidgy Black

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Hard to make out what happened there - did the tackled player jump or is Olding a lot stronger than he looks?

I don't think he jumped, I think Olding just got under the legs and as he lifted up the other players momentum carried him.

Heymans

Former Former wrote: »

His 'top class outing' lasted 11 minutes. He was red carded for an outrageous tip tackle.

I admit I only saw the second half....saw on playback his try - wasn't aware he was sent off.

swiwi_

That's about the clearest red card you'll ever see.

pickarooney

Very weird tackle. White player jumps and ****s himself up in the process. Not sure how Olding's legs ended up in the air.

Burkie1203

https://twitter.com/Jamesonrugby/status/1051758326051168256?s=19

Neil3030

nc6000 wrote: »

Here's the incident...

Check out @pauleddison’;s Tweet: https://twitter.com/pauleddison/status/1048921453566025728?s=09

Incident from another angle:

Dave_The_Sheep

What's the French reaction to the Toulon-Newcastle result at the weekend?

Synode

Burkie1203 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Jamesonrugby/status/1051758326051168256?s=19

Pienaar returning to Ulster? Where is that coming from

Synode

Synode wrote: »

Pienaar returning to Ulster? Where is that coming from

Left field ?

prawnsambo

Synode wrote: »

Pienaar returning to Ulster? Where is that coming from

That's been on the cards since last year. Still has a house in Belfast afaik and there was a coaching job being kept warm for him.

razorblunt

My Instagram notified me that "Clement Daguin" has liked your picture.
'Who the fock is Clement Daguin' says I.

Stade Francais scrum half it seems.


Don't be sliding in my DMs now. It's Conor Murray or it's nothing!


Bit random though, picture was completely unrelated to rugby, Paris, France or celementines.

thomond2006

Perpignan look like they are going back down to ProD2. A loss today, albeit away, to fellow strugglers Toulon. 3 points earned from 9 games.

The Lost Sheep

Second weekend of games after break for November internationals.
Clermont going strong at top but Perpignan really looking poor and likely to be going back down to ProD2.

vienne86

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Second weekend of games after break for November internationals.
Clermont going strong at top but Perpignan really looking poor and likely to be going back down to ProD2.

Is there a rumour Jackson is going to Lyon next season? I'm sure he would have a release clause if Perpignan go down.

vienne86

Toulouse playing Stade at home. 30 minutes gone and Stade have just got their 3rd yellow - all deserved. Down to 13 now, but had a moment when they were down to 12.

Former Former

vienne86 wrote: »

Is there a rumour Jackson is going to Lyon next season? I'm sure he would have a release clause if Perpignan go down.

Yes on both counts.

They're now 0 wins from 11 with only 4 points. They might just be the worst team in Europe so looks like Jackson will be triggering that clause.

errlloyd

Former Former wrote: »

Yes on both counts.

They're now 0 wins from 11 with only 4 points. They might just be the worst team in Europe so looks like Jackson will be triggering that clause.

That Perpignan team would destroy the Dragons to be fair.

pickarooney

I didn't know Rory Scholes had joined Brive.
Going to see himself and Olding in the flesh tonight.

errlloyd

pickarooney wrote: »

I didn't know Rory Scholes had joined Brive.
Going to see himself and Olding in the flesh tonight.

He has been there around 3 weeks.

pickarooney

pickarooney wrote: »

Going to see himself and Olding in the flesh tonight.

I really had to stop myself from cracking a joke about this.

Former Former

A Stade Francais espoirs player has died following a neck injury sustained in a tackle in a game on Sunday which caused cardiac arrest.

http://www.stade.fr/actualites/news/communique/2018-12-12-message-stade-francais-paris-en-accord-avec-famille-de-nicolas-chauvin

It's the second death due to tackling in the pro ranks of French rugby this year, awful stuff.

Squidgy Black

Former Former wrote: »

A Stade Francais espoirs player has died following a neck injury sustained in a tackle in a game on Sunday which caused cardiac arrest.

http://www.stade.fr/actualites/news/communique/2018-12-12-message-stade-francais-paris-en-accord-avec-famille-de-nicolas-chauvin

It's the second death due to tackling in the pro ranks of French rugby this year, awful stuff.

19 years of age, such a horrible thing to happen. The other young lad who passed away a few months ago was only 22 as well.

Burkie1203

https://twitter.com/pauleddison/status/1076543888196816896?s=19

Dave_The_Sheep

Toulon getting themselves out of jail here, bigtime. Stade throwing it away, two tries (albeit one that shouldn't have been given) in the last few minutes of the game.

Eod100

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

Toulon getting themselves out of jail here, bigtime. Stade throwing it away, two tries (albeit one that shouldn't have been given) in the last few minutes of the game.

Some bizzare game. Woeful defence at the end from Stade

Simple_Simone

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

Toulon getting themselves out of jail here, bigtime. Stade throwing it away, two tries (albeit one that shouldn't have been given) in the last few minutes of the game.

An awful decision by Poite and/or the TMO to allow that try. The Toulon knock-on was obvious on the replay - it's just as well that Specsavers don't sponsor the French referees! I wonder was he trying to compensate Toulon for the Gorgodze yellow card. I hope that PO'C (who is part of the Stade coaching team) had a word with him about it afterwards!

Plisson's funk non-tackle of the Toulon winger as he scored the winning try was hilarious, although I doubt that Stade found it amusing.

Former Former

https://twitter.com/i/status/1089588289491877889

I dunno, I can see Poite's point on the knock-on for the first one, hard to tell if it hits the ground between the first and second contacts. If it's not clear and obvious, he has to allow it.

Plisson should be taken out and shot for his lazy tracking back and utterly feeble attempt at a tackle for the second try. No excuse for that.

pickarooney

A while back there was discussion of a change to the way substitutions were to be used in the Pro D2. Just looking back at the most recent match I watched and the second half for one team went like this:

44', LUAFUTU replaced by BÉAL
48', JUSTES replaced by BUROTU
48', BÉAL replaced by LUAFUTU
53', LUAFUTU replaced by BÉAL
53', LOCKLEY replaced by MONDOULET
53', SOLA replaced by MUNRO
58', TAUMALOLO replaced by VERNET
58', KBAIER replaced by LOCKLEY
58', MORENO RODRIGUEZ replaced by MAKÉ
65', TUAPATI replaced by CARRAT
74', NARUMASA replaced by JUSTES
77', LOCKLEY replaced by KBAIER

It's just like basketball at this stage

The Lost Sheep

pickarooney wrote: »

A while back there was discussion of a change to the way substitutions were to be used in the Pro D2. Just looking back at the most recent match I watched and the second half for one team went like this:

It's just like basketball at this stage

Its not really like basketball at all.
Its like amatuer rugby here in most cases as you can replace players tactically if the player hasnt went off as an injury replacement.
It works well at that level. see how it could work well in pro game

Zebo really spilled the beans on the Racing players attitudes towards French team management. He was on the House of Rugby pre six nations panel and said he reckoned there was a problem there between the players and the coach. He didn't hide the negativity at all and he's fairly thrown the Racing French Internationals under the bus.

Anyone see the panel?

sydthebeat

Yeah I heard the podcast.... He wasn't shy about saying that he didn't work well under Joe Schmidt's detailed systems

sydthebeat

sydthebeat wrote: »

Yeah I heard the podcast.... He wasn't shy about saying that he didn't work well under Joe Schmidt's detailed systems

It felt like someone giving out about their mam so much that by the time they were done you found yourself taking the mam's side.

Dubinusa

Since Zebo has left, he's become very unlikable imo.
I'm glad he's ostracized from the national team, he appears to be a huge Zebo fan and plays the victim card all the time.

The Lost Sheep

Dubinusa wrote: »

Since Zebo has left, he's become very unlikable imo.
I'm glad he's ostracized from the national team, he appears to be a huge Zebo fan and plays the victim card all the time.

:rolleyes:
Thats way OTT and he hasnt at all become unlikeable. Dont see too much wrong with what he's done since leaving.

He should be involved with Ireland considering his form but wont with IRFU policy

Dubinusa

I disagree, compare him to the others who have left?
It's all about Zebo imo.
I just think he's selfish .
Of course, it's just by opinion.

The Lost Sheep

Dubinusa wrote: »

I disagree, compare him to the others who have left?
It's all about Zebo imo.
I just think he's selfish .
Of course, it's just by opinion.

But any winger etc will be selfish as they have to be to a large extent
Its the same with all these guys...

Eod100

Looks like Clermont are away on tour in Japan at the moment. Dunno is it usual for teams to go on tour abroad during 6N break?

Squidgy Black

Eod100 wrote: »

Looks like Clermont are away on tour in Japan at the moment. Dunno is it usual for teams to go on tour abroad during 6N break?

Was a one off charity match I believe. Suppose it's a change to training camps etc during the international windows. A lot of players would be off on holiday etc anyways now.

Eod100

Racing v Toulouse on this Sunday on Sky. Will be interesting to see result with the repeat fixture in Champions Cup quarter-final. Wonder will Donnacha Ryan be back in squad after injury?

shrapnel222

Eod100 wrote: »

Racing v Toulouse on this Sunday on Sky. Will be interesting to see result with the repeat fixture in Champions Cup quarter-final. Wonder will Donnacha Ryan be back in squad after injury?

will be difficult to gauge properly with a large number of very influential players being away.

Eod100

shrapnel222 wrote: »

will be difficult to gauge properly with a large number of very influential players being away.

True, should be interesting match up all the same!

Eod100

Donnacha Ryan out of the Racing team today. Must still be coming back from injury

Eod100

Mourad not happy with Savea. Not too sure of context. Google translation fairly ropey. He doesn't seem the most pleasant of individuals.. https://twitter.com/pauleddison/status/1097115095644233733?s=19