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hidinginthebush · 17-01-2014 11:39pm

Mental Mickey wrote: »

Most of their fans nowadays only know the stuff from the Black album onwards.

I'd be very surprised at that. Sure black album is the perfect entry point, but I find it hard to think that any new metallica fan would go load / reload / st anger / DM as opposed to master / ajfa / kea / ride. I guess it'd all depends on what your into, but load and reload always struck me as albums you get into as you get older, whereas surely a teenager looking to get psyched up on old school metal / trash would go the route of the older albums.

I think the issue with these setlist are the majority of people going are more casual fan, seeing them for the first time. They haven't a pain in their are seeing nothing else matters and sandman every show. Buuuut I can see how I'm now actually contradicting my point. Ugh, I guess I'll have to go back complaining about kids these days.

Lithium93_ · 17-01-2014 11:45pm

To whoever said he wanted to see Metallica play Dyers Eve live a page back, would you really want them to play that, and i'm not criticizing but can Lars even play at the speed required to pull off Dyers?

hidinginthebush · 18-01-2014 12:29am

Lithium93_ wrote: »

To whoever said he wanted to see Metallica play Dyers Eve live a page back, would you really want them to play that, and i'm not criticizing but can Lars even play at the speed required to pull off Dyers?

Didn't they play it a while ago but he didn't double kick drum it?

Lithium93_ · 18-01-2014 12:37am

hidinginthebush wrote: »

Didn't they play it a while ago but he didn't double kick drum it?

They played it in Nimes in 2009 as far as i know, and Lars didn't double kick drum it

jacksie66 · 18-01-2014 2:57pm

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King George VI · 19-01-2014 12:34am

It's a bit odd that he can't play as well or as fast as he used to. I know he's nearly 50 but so is Dave Lombardo and Vinnie Paul and Charlie Bendante and they can still play hella fast.

KH25 · 19-01-2014 12:49pm

St. Jimmy wrote: »

It's a bit odd that he can't play as well or as fast as he used to. I know he's nearly 50 but so is Dave Lombardo and Vinnie Paul and Charlie Bendante and they can still play hella fast.

He's admitted that he doesn't practice as often anymore. Charlie and Dave obviously do. I would actually love to hear Charlie drumming for Metallica as a once off.

Motley Crue · 19-01-2014 5:51pm

KH25 wrote: »

He's admitted that he doesn't practice as often anymore. Charlie and Dave obviously do. I would actually love to hear Charlie drumming for Metallica as a once off.

I'm surprised he even practices at all. Between his schedule, sound checks and performances he probably plays just as much as he needs too. Might not even physically have the time in a day to practice fundamental drumming

Kess73 · 20-01-2014 11:53am

KH25 wrote: »

He's admitted that he doesn't practice as often anymore. Charlie and Dave obviously do. I would actually love to hear Charlie drumming for Metallica as a once off.

Anthrax used to cover a lot of Maiden and Metallica (mostly from Puppets) songs when Bush was with them, so you might be able to find some of them on youtube.

Pretty sure he guested with Metallica themselves for a song or two in the past just as Lombardo has.

He is a brilliant drummer though, and despite all his side projects (and age) his standards seem to not have dropped at all.

Ash.J.Williams · 20-01-2014 12:15pm

Kess73 wrote: »

Anthrax used to cover a lot of Maiden and Metallica (mostly from Puppets) songs when Bush was with them, so you might be able to find some of them on youtube.

Pretty sure he guested with Metallica themselves for a song or two in the past just as Lombardo has.

He is a brilliant drummer though, and despite all his side projects (and age) his standards seem to not have dropped at all.

Wasn't bush nearly the singer on master of puppets?

feylya · 20-01-2014 12:18pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25XSRjC8G3A

John Bush doing The Four Horsemen. Awesome version.

hidinginthebush · 20-01-2014 12:37pm

KH25 wrote: »

He's admitted that he doesn't practice as often anymore. Charlie and Dave obviously do. I would actually love to hear Charlie drumming for Metallica as a once off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvSQ-aO5Yt0

Here you go

Kess73 · 20-01-2014 1:27pm

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Wasn't bush nearly the singer on master of puppets?

Two of Armored Saint were looked at to join Metallica.

Bush on vocals and the excellent Joey Vera on Bass.

Lemmy Scott · 20-01-2014 2:12pm

feylya wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25XSRjC8G3A

John Bush doing Puppets. Awesome version.

Song is called the 4 horsemen

feylya · 20-01-2014 2:28pm

Lemmy Scott wrote: »

Song is called the 4 horsemen

Ha, I hadn't had enough coffee at that stage

AllGunsBlazing · 20-01-2014 5:52pm

St. Jimmy wrote: »

It's a bit odd that he can't play as well or as fast as he used to. I know he's nearly 50 but so is Dave Lombardo and Vinnie Paul and Charlie Bendante and they can still play hella fast.

Lars was never the most solid of drummers to begin with. Have many of you seen the 'A year and a half' documentary that shows them making the Black Album?

It took them the best part of ten months to record and from what I saw most of that time was spent trying to coax a decent drum take out of Lars.

I think its fair to say that ambition and a good head for business are what got Lars where he is today. Had he tried to get by on musical ability alone James would have left him behind a long time ago.

Mental Mickey · 20-01-2014 9:46pm

Lithium93_ wrote: »

(It's sad but true) really, that most Metallica fans nowadays only know like you said Black album onwards

I see what you did there!;-)

scudzilla · 20-01-2014 10:00pm

Jason is still my fav EVER member of Metallica

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzQjehHvJlQ

Motley Crue · 20-01-2014 10:29pm

scudzilla wrote: »

Jason is still my fav EVER member of Metallica

I take it this is to do with the REAL reason he left Metallica?

I couldn't believe that story when I first heard it, but fair play to him, he's actually held onto that for 14 years and only just let the cat out of the bag. I think it just makes James look like a complete asshole and he'll need to do some serious grovelling.

Even at the Anniversary shows it was obvious James just couldn't let the past lie...his body language said it all....

scudzilla · 20-01-2014 10:40pm

Motley Crue wrote: »

I take it this is to do with the REAL reason he left Metallica?

I couldn't believe that story when I first heard it, but fair play to him, he's actually held onto that for 14 years and only just let the cat out of the bag. I think it just makes James look like a complete asshole and he'll need to do some serious grovelling.

Even at the Anniversary shows it was obvious James just couldn't let the past lie...his body language said it all....

Nope, even before those revelations came out he was my fav, they lost a lot of heart and soul when he.....left :rolleyes:

StaticAge11 · 20-01-2014 11:21pm

scudzilla wrote: »

Jason is still my fav EVER member of Metallica

What's up with that video, I can't see it? Any other link or anyone care to summarise?

scudzilla · 20-01-2014 11:24pm

StaticAge11 wrote: »

What's up with that video, I can't see it? Any other link or anyone care to summarise?

fixed it

bockeys jollocks · 22-01-2014 1:03pm

Motley Crue wrote: »

I take it this is to do with the REAL reason he left Metallica?

I couldn't believe that story when I first heard it, but fair play to him, he's actually held onto that for 14 years and only just let the cat out of the bag. I think it just makes James look like a complete asshole and he'll need to do some serious grovelling.

Even at the Anniversary shows it was obvious James just couldn't let the past lie...his body language said it all....

It was the same at the Rock and Roll hall of fame induction, they barely looked at each other, it was obvious. On the other hand Jason and Lars seemed to be good mates.

seachto7 · 22-01-2014 3:04pm

hidinginthebush wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvSQ-aO5Yt0

Here you go

Lars standing there in his jocks.... :rolleyes:

seachto7 · 22-01-2014 3:06pm

feylya wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25XSRjC8G3A

John Bush doing The Four Horsemen. Awesome version.

John Bush was good there. Hope to see some new music with John Bush sometime..

Ash.J.Williams · 22-01-2014 3:08pm

From the scuzz interview it sounds like jason would be the ideal producer for the next album.

Kess73 · 22-01-2014 5:37pm

seachto7 wrote: »

John Bush was good there. Hope to see some new music with John Bush sometime..

Should be a new Armored Saint album late this year

seachto7 · 22-01-2014 5:43pm

Kess73 wrote: »

Should be a new Armored Saint album late this year

La Raza wasn't bad at all.

I would take his stuff in Anthrax over Joey, much as it might annoy some to say. Joey sounds dated now.

One can only wonder what it would have been like with John Bush in Metallica.

Kess73 · 22-01-2014 5:50pm

seachto7 wrote: »

La Raza wasn't bad at all.

I would take his stuff in Anthrax over Joey, much as it might annoy some to say. Joey sounds dated now.

One can only wonder what it would have been like with John Bush in Metallica.

Glad it never happened as I loved Armored Saint when I was a kid (still do), and then loved his time with Anthrax.

If he had joined Metallica then there would have been no Symbol Of Salvation, and no Sound Of White Noise.

seachto7 · 22-01-2014 5:55pm

That is true....

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