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Metallica Superthread -All Metallica discussion goes in here

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,135 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Lars girlfriend is co writing the next Album


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,436 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    Lars girlfriend is co writing the next Album

    Seriously? :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,191 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Riddle101 wrote: »
    Seriously? :eek:

    Yeah, well they have to. She gave James her brother's old Marshall 50w MG to use on stage, plus she drives band's van since she's the only one who knows how.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,346 ✭✭✭King George VI


    If Lang Lang wasn't there it would have been a grand performance of One. Not great, but grand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,346 ✭✭✭King George VI




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,175 ✭✭✭StaticAge11


    St. Jimmy wrote: »

    Are you really surprised :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,346 ✭✭✭King George VI


    Are you really surprised :P

    No not really. I am annoyed though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,382 ✭✭✭Motley Crue


    Riddle101 wrote: »
    Seriously? :eek:

    Em...no....

    But after what Motley Crue did with 'Saint's of Los Angeles'
    (basically wrote one song between them and then got Nikki, Buckcherry and Sixx AM to write the rest)
    I wouldn't be surprised if Metallica drafted in some outside help. They could ask Jason to write it for them. He's bound to have loads of ideas.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    No money to be made by hosting your own festival apparently

    http://loudwire.com/metallica-orion-festival-disaster-financially-not-able-to-happen/

    No surprise that the film lost money too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,679 ✭✭✭hidinginthebush




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  • Registered Users Posts: 832 ✭✭✭harvester of sorrow


    Some epic trolling going on there.....

    "Lars i just want to let you know i torrented all of Metallica's albums,except st.anger,not that i didnt like it,its just that there wasnt enough seeders"
    :pac::pac:

    LOL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭stefan idiot jones


    'Who pushed the hair back on your head'?

    Priceless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,854 ✭✭✭Beekay


    After being asked what song he would love to play live

    "If I could only choose one song, I'd probably choose "Frayed Ends"."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,657 ✭✭✭Doctor Jimbob


    Beekay wrote: »
    After being asked what song he would love to play live

    "If I could only choose one song, I'd probably choose "Frayed Ends"."

    What's stopping him from choosing it? :confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    Excerpts from Lars Ulrich Reddit AMA

    Asked about songs from the Load/Reload, St. Anger material that hasn't been played live or given "appreciation":

    ''I think reinterpretation is a very interesting element of your back catalogue. I don't think that
    you need to be tied to one particular version of a song. I've always thought it could be
    interesting to reinterpret St. Anger in a contemporary live situation. Also we started playing
    "Carpe Diem Baby" live last year, which was fun, so lots of unplayed material from that era. There
    are lots of those songs that could work again in live settings. It doesn't necessary need to be
    stadiums, it could be smaller shows or settings.''



    Asked about the writing process and where the influence comes from:

    ''Mostly jamming and seeing where it takes us. Like I've said, Death Magnetic is our obvious
    point of reference. Going good for good riffs, good energy, interesting progressions, with a
    melodic sensibility.''


    One fan wanted to know if there is any Metallica goodies we haven't heard yet:

    Yes, there's tons of stuff in the vault that hasn't been released, including soundboard tapes,
    full videos, lots of goodies to come your way, hopefully sooner rather than later.


    What do you think of the state of heavy metal today? Do you think we will ever see another HUGE metal act the likes of Metallica/Maiden/Priest and such? Do you think metal will ever make a resurgence to the glory days of the 80’s?

    That's a great question. I think it would be so awesome if there was a band that come along and shook it all up again. I just don't know who. I think the coolest band for me in the last couple years is Baroness. I also love Norwegian band Kvelertak. But I just don't know if any of these bands can take it to those heights unfortunately.

    About the debacle that is Metallica by Request. For Metallica's upcoming 2014 tour, Metallica opened the polls for fans to pick the setlist. All Metallica songs were included to the delight of fan club members. Finally, we thought, we get to hear a unique fun setlist full of challenging music and rare gems. Alas, it is not to be. The causal listener outnumbers clubbers by a significant amount and the voting has proved that a majority of fans want Metallica - the nostalgic act. The songs that are winning in the respective cities are nothing more than a best of... set full of popular over played tunes

    Obviously, we are going to play what the fans are choosing. That was the whole point of the exercise. Rare songs were not left out at our end. We are as motivated to play them as some of you are to hear them. But in this case, if you, the fans vote for certain songs that we "usually play anyway" then so be it.

    On the endless criticism from fans and non-fans:

    It depends what the criticism is. There are such a wide range of criticisms thrown at you nowadays because the internet gives everyone an opinion, for better or worse. And some people
    just spew crap for whatever reason, which I don't pay very much attention to. I'm also pretty thick-skinned by nature and actually have the ability to find it all a bit silly and laugh at most of
    it. But if someone's got a fair critique, I'll certainly pay attention.


    Are Metallica working on a new album?:

    Yes we have started. Coming along slowly, like everything in our world. But the jams we've done so far have been super exciting and it's gonna be fun putting this record together in the next year.

    And everyone's favourite subject......... Napster

    A couple thoughts: I wish we had been better prepared for the **** storm that we found ourselves in. I don't regret taking on Napster, but I do find it odd how big of a part of our legacy it has become to so many people, because to me it's more like a footnote. I was also stunned that people thought it was about money. People used the word, "greed" all the time, which was so bizarre. The whole thing was about one thing and one thing only - control. Not about the internet, not about money, not about file sharing, not about giving **** away for free or not, but about whose choice it was. If I wanna give my **** away for free, I'll give it away for free. That choice was taken away from me.

    To be fair, the point fans keep missing is this... a lot of bands don't own the copyright to their songs, they may write and perform the songs, bu the songs don't legally belong to them. Copyright belongs to the record label. The record company could own that copyright for a good 50 years from the release of the songs.
    Depending on the contract, the band makes about 13%. The lions share 63% goes to the record label. That 13% (again, depending on your contract) - managers get about 15%, lawyers and business managers 5% each, producers about 3% and the band splits the rest. oh, that's IF the band didn't take an advance from the record company, because THAT gets paid back first. That's one scenario - another says that artists can make as little as 7%, an extra 5% if you write the songs, producer 2%, Manufacturing 5%, Label 30%, Retail outlets 30% and distribution 22%. Either way, the band makes next to nothing on actual album sales. Downloading may stick it to the record company, but the biggest hit comes from the band itself. But that's my 2cents.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,863 ✭✭✭seachto7


    Lithium93_ wrote: »
    Excerpts from Lars Ulrich Reddit AMA

    To be fair, the point fans keep missing is this... a lot of bands don't own the copyright to their songs, they may write and perform the songs, bu the songs don't legally belong to them. Copyright belongs to the record label. The record company could own that copyright for a good 50 years from the release of the songs.
    Depending on the contract, the band makes about 13%. The lions share 63% goes to the record label. That 13% (again, depending on your contract) - managers get about 15%, lawyers and business managers 5% each, producers about 3% and the band splits the rest. oh, that's IF the band didn't take an advance from the record company, because THAT gets paid back first. That's one scenario - another says that artists can make as little as 7%, an extra 5% if you write the songs, producer 2%, Manufacturing 5%, Label 30%, Retail outlets 30% and distribution 22%. Either way, the band makes next to nothing on actual album sales. Downloading may stick it to the record company, but the biggest hit comes from the band itself. But that's my 2cents. [/I]

    He's bang on here. No excuse for people thinking they should be taking someone else's work for free.


  • Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    Just thought of it now, but while Lars was doing his AMA on Reddit, did anyone ask if Metallica would be playing Ireland anytime soon


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 132 ✭✭bockeys jollocks


    Lithium93_ wrote: »
    Just thought of it now, but while Lars was doing his AMA on Reddit, did anyone ask if Metallica would be playing Ireland anytime soon

    I think it's up to the promoters here to ask them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,679 ✭✭✭hidinginthebush


    This question got me most excited


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,175 ✭✭✭StaticAge11


    I think it's up to the promoters here to ask them.

    We should petition the promoters!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,382 ✭✭✭Motley Crue


    I hope he doesn't decide to play St Anger in a current live setting to be fair. That one is best left unsold.

    I'm going to check out Kvelertak though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,091 ✭✭✭happyoutscan


    This one made me laugh.





    Why the hell didn't you guys play Trapped Under Ice during your Antarctica show?
    - Perhaps they were freezing, couldn't move at all.


  • Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    Someone asked Lars if he talked to AC/DC during the '91 Monsters of Rock show at Donington, he said
    Yes I did. They're super nice. Very chill. Easy going. Quiet. Low key. Over the course of the tour, I would get invited back to the dressing room after the show to have tea with Angus. It was very cool.



    Someone else asked him about Dave Mustaine
    It hasn't changed. I respect him as a musician and I will always love him as a brother and as a part of Metallica.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,382 ✭✭✭Motley Crue


    I also love Norwegian band Kvelertak.

    They're not bad...I'm surprised Lars is listening to this kind of stuff though, and given their limited fan base at this stage (20,000 Spotify followers etc) I think - sadly - the fact they don't sing in English is going to affect their possibilities in a European market...worth checking out though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭ush


    They're not bad...I'm surprised Lars is listening to this kind of stuff though, and given their limited fan base at this stage (20,000 Spotify followers etc) I think - sadly - the fact they don't sing in English is going to affect their possibilities in a European market...worth checking out though

    I understand Norwegian and can barely make out the words. Don't think thats holding them back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,135 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Lithium93_ wrote: »
    Excerpts from Lars Ulrich Reddit AMA

    Asked about songs from the Load/Reload, St. Anger material that hasn't been played live or given "appreciation":

    ''I think reinterpretation is a very interesting element of your back catalogue. I don't think that
    you need to be tied to one particular version of a song. I've always thought it could be
    interesting to reinterpret St. Anger in a contemporary live situation. Also we started playing
    "Carpe Diem Baby" live last year, which was fun, so lots of unplayed material from that era. There
    are lots of those songs that could work again in live settings. It doesn't necessary need to be
    stadiums, it could be smaller shows or settings.''



    Asked about the writing process and where the influence comes from:

    ''Mostly jamming and seeing where it takes us. Like I've said, Death Magnetic is our obvious
    point of reference. Going good for good riffs, good energy, interesting progressions, with a
    melodic sensibility.''


    One fan wanted to know if there is any Metallica goodies we haven't heard yet:

    Yes, there's tons of stuff in the vault that hasn't been released, including soundboard tapes,
    full videos, lots of goodies to come your way, hopefully sooner rather than later.


    What do you think of the state of heavy metal today? Do you think we will ever see another HUGE metal act the likes of Metallica/Maiden/Priest and such? Do you think metal will ever make a resurgence to the glory days of the 80’s?

    That's a great question. I think it would be so awesome if there was a band that come along and shook it all up again. I just don't know who. I think the coolest band for me in the last couple years is Baroness. I also love Norwegian band Kvelertak. But I just don't know if any of these bands can take it to those heights unfortunately.

    About the debacle that is Metallica by Request. For Metallica's upcoming 2014 tour, Metallica opened the polls for fans to pick the setlist. All Metallica songs were included to the delight of fan club members. Finally, we thought, we get to hear a unique fun setlist full of challenging music and rare gems. Alas, it is not to be. The causal listener outnumbers clubbers by a significant amount and the voting has proved that a majority of fans want Metallica - the nostalgic act. The songs that are winning in the respective cities are nothing more than a best of... set full of popular over played tunes

    Obviously, we are going to play what the fans are choosing. That was the whole point of the exercise. Rare songs were not left out at our end. We are as motivated to play them as some of you are to hear them. But in this case, if you, the fans vote for certain songs that we "usually play anyway" then so be it.

    On the endless criticism from fans and non-fans:

    It depends what the criticism is. There are such a wide range of criticisms thrown at you nowadays because the internet gives everyone an opinion, for better or worse. And some people
    just spew crap for whatever reason, which I don't pay very much attention to. I'm also pretty thick-skinned by nature and actually have the ability to find it all a bit silly and laugh at most of
    it. But if someone's got a fair critique, I'll certainly pay attention.


    Are Metallica working on a new album?:

    Yes we have started. Coming along slowly, like everything in our world. But the jams we've done so far have been super exciting and it's gonna be fun putting this record together in the next year.

    And everyone's favourite subject......... Napster

    A couple thoughts: I wish we had been better prepared for the **** storm that we found ourselves in. I don't regret taking on Napster, but I do find it odd how big of a part of our legacy it has become to so many people, because to me it's more like a footnote. I was also stunned that people thought it was about money. People used the word, "greed" all the time, which was so bizarre. The whole thing was about one thing and one thing only - control. Not about the internet, not about money, not about file sharing, not about giving **** away for free or not, but about whose choice it was. If I wanna give my **** away for free, I'll give it away for free. That choice was taken away from me.

    To be fair, the point fans keep missing is this... a lot of bands don't own the copyright to their songs, they may write and perform the songs, bu the songs don't legally belong to them. Copyright belongs to the record label. The record company could own that copyright for a good 50 years from the release of the songs.
    Depending on the contract, the band makes about 13%. The lions share 63% goes to the record label. That 13% (again, depending on your contract) - managers get about 15%, lawyers and business managers 5% each, producers about 3% and the band splits the rest. oh, that's IF the band didn't take an advance from the record company, because THAT gets paid back first. That's one scenario - another says that artists can make as little as 7%, an extra 5% if you write the songs, producer 2%, Manufacturing 5%, Label 30%, Retail outlets 30% and distribution 22%. Either way, the band makes next to nothing on actual album sales. Downloading may stick it to the record company, but the biggest hit comes from the band itself. But that's my 2cents.

    Jaysus whoever asked the napster question got their moneys worth


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,191 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Lars is forever destined to be asked about Napster, I think. He mentions seeing the episode as a footnote but he forgets that he was pretty much the poster child for music industry public backlash to the Napster 'revolution'. He also talks about control of the music which is a fair point but even he points out that most bands sign away control of their music to the label for a cut of the sales. He's mainly talking about control in a way specific to Metallica, since they seemed to have a stronger position than most bands in terms of say-so about what's done with their music, but he demonstrated an ignorance of the fact that by the time it was on the Internet, control was out the window.

    Metallica's beef with Napster mainly started over a discovery that a demo of I Disappear leaked, went viral on Napster and got radio play. A great question for Lars would have been did they ever find the culprit?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,382 ✭✭✭Motley Crue


    A great question would have been whatever inspired him to do that bloody commercial at the MTV Music Awards...the one where he comes into the guys bedroom and "shares a soda" - I wouldn't have been surprised if that had been a SNL sketch or something, but to actually feature Ulrich himself was the shocker


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,191 ✭✭✭✭briany


    A great question would have been whatever inspired him to do that bloody commercial at the MTV Music Awards...the one where he comes into the guys bedroom and "shares a soda" - I wouldn't have been surprised if that had been a SNL sketch or something, but to actually feature Ulrich himself was the shocker

    I've only heard of that, not seen it. I always thought it was a sketch sending up his role as the voice of the music industry.

    Edit : Here it says it was a skit.


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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 7,409 Mod ✭✭✭✭pleasant Co.


    This question got me most excited

    maybe a legit ...And justice for Jason :D


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