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Sugarlumps

Mushy wrote: »

This. Nail on the head stuff. Or even if you want a similar genre, look at nicko mcbrain. Many drummers older than him can still play like the old days, Lars just doesnt bother!

Chaps got a hammer of a right foot on him.

hidinginthebush

nyarlothothep wrote: »

Lords of Summer sounds stock like most of DM (which was ok, but still stockish in terms of riffs and structure). Why not try something new instead of releasing another AJFA? They also seem enamoured with that garage band sound which is pretty limited imo.

They seemed to be trying to do that with Load and Re-load and got called sell-outs / over the hill / finished by all the old fans. Sure why would you want an artistic artist when you can just have them rehash the same album every 5 years? :rolleyes:

It really bothers me. If you look at all their albums, there has been some growth in sound from each one, then when they finished Re-Load they bottled it and played it safer for St. Anger and safer still for Death Magnetic. I love DM, but would rather that they took a chance and made an ambitious album (besides Lulu!), rather than trying to please all the people all the time.

KH25

I love Load and Reload because I think they were a natural progression for the band. Their best albums are still the early ones of course but that doesn't mean Load and Reload are bad albums. IMO Load is an excellent hard rock album. I would love to hear a few new songs in that vein these days.

hidinginthebush

I'm in work so can't listen right now, but some of you might appreciate this official footage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8u6Ww1ZGeU

Gave it a go there. Not bad, by any means. Pretty standard in terms of their recent output. Sounds a bit more thrashy than DM. Good tune.

montec

I actually think its quite good. Some decent production would make this an absolute cracker, however, on songs like this you miss the influence that Burton's musicality would bring to it. If they are heading in this direction, I would love to see Flemming Rasmussen brought back in, who in fairness, brought out the best in Ulrich.

nyarlothothep

Actually listening to it again live it's not too bad. Jame's vocals have improved a lot. You're right about them not taking any risks after Reload, although I thought St Anger was fairly risky with the detuned guitars, no guitar solos and detuned drums (which only I like). It had a bottom of the barrel sound which reflected where they were at.

zcorpian88

montec wrote: »

I would love to see Flemming Rasmussen brought back in, who in fairness, brought out the best in Ulrich.

Totally agree there, I don't think Rick Rubin hung around too long and let the band have too much of an input producing, probably why Death Magnetic was compressed and distorted. They should hire Flemming Rasmussen and fly him over if they have to, he did a brilliant job with Evile's dubut album.

Metallica will probably never go to Denmark again to record since they all have families and small children now, if they offered Rasmussen enough money he could jump at it.

stefan idiot jones

ush wrote: »

Skullet. The full Terry Nutkins.

Even Terry with his missing digit is a better drummer these days.

Ash.J.Williams

zcorpian88 wrote: »

Totally agree there, I don't think Rick Rubin hung around too long and let the band have too much of an input producing, probably why Death Magnetic was compressed and distorted. They should hire Flemming Rasmussen and fly him over if they have to, he did a brilliant job with Evile's dubut album.

Metallica will probably never go to Denmark again to record since they all have families and small children now, if they offered Rasmussen enough money he could jump at it.

Flemming was an engineer. He didn't produce them in the way Rubin and rock did.

MagicMarker

Anyone who thinks age plays a factor when it comes to drumming haven't ever seen Buddy Rich.

bockeys jollocks

Death angel - Trapped under ice with Kirk Hammett, the drummer Will Carroll is giving it feckin socks, never saw Lars play like this...very good indeed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hX1IEWLE0A0

Ash.J.Williams

age is a factor when you haven't practiced since 1990

Sugarlumps

bockeys jollocks wrote: »

Death angel - Trapped under ice with Kirk Hammett, the drummer Will Carroll is giving it feckin socks, never saw Lars play like this...very good indeed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hX1IEWLE0A0

That sounds killer. Refreshing to see a bass player play bass, instead of warbling around like a crustacean.

Motley Crue

bockeys jollocks wrote: »

Death angel - Trapped under ice with Kirk Hammett, the drummer Will Carroll is giving it feckin socks, never saw Lars play like this...very good indeed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hX1IEWLE0A0

Notice Sick Drummer Magazine do the sponsorship for this video. I used to write for these guys actually.

scudzilla

I wonder if Lars actually realises that most fans think he's crap and needs to practice

lord lucan

scudzilla wrote: »

I wonder if Lars actually realises that most fans think he's crap and needs to practice

I think he does. There's a video online(on my phone ATM) of the intro video to the "by request" shows were they're reading out stuff that would appear to have been pulled from message boards and James reads out "Lars should practice more" or words to that effect.

bockeys jollocks

scudzilla wrote: »

I wonder if Lars actually realises that most fans think he's crap and needs to practice

Well I tell ya, after seeing Will Carroll drumming trapped under ice, my views have changed a bit.

scudzilla

This is an official yoke from them, from the Bogota show, and damn, during Justice in the tuning room ya can hear just how bad Hets voice is shot :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QirkaL_kLqs

Sugarlumps

scudzilla wrote: »

This is an official yoke from them, from the Bogota show, and damn, during Justice in the tuning room ya can hear just how bad Hets voice is shot :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QirkaL_kLqs

The live performance was really solid, intense song to kick the show off, interesting view from the bands perspective. A sea of cameras.

scudzilla

Sugarlumps wrote: »

The live performance was really solid, intense song to kick the show off, interesting view from the bands perspective. A sea of cameras.

Was thinking that myself, what would that feel like, to be standing behind the backline, just hearing cheers, then walking out to that 3 nights a week. I guess that is why they do what they do

Lithium93_

Metallica's setlist from the Sao Paulo show, March 22nd

Battery
Master of Puppets
Welcome Home (Sanitarium)
Fuel
The Unforgiven
Lords of Summer
Wherever I May Roam
Sad But True
Fade to Black
...And Justice for All
One,
For Whom the Bell Tolls,
Creeping Death,
Nothing Else Matters,
Enter Sandman,
*Whiskey in the Jar*
The Day That Never Comes
Seek & Destroy

*Played for the first time since 2009*

scudzilla

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Metallica's setlist from the Sao Paulo show, March 22nd

Battery,
Master of Puppets,
Welcome Home (Sanitarium),
Fuel,
The Unforgiven,
Lords of Summer,
Wherever I May Roam,
Sad But True,
Fade to Black,
...And Justice for All,
One,
For Whom the Bell Tolls,
Creeping Death,
Nothing Else Matters,
Enter Sandman,
*Whiskey in the Jar*,
The Day That Never Comes,
Seek & Destroy

*Played for the first time since 2009*

Meh

"Let the fans vote on what songs they wanna hear" they said

"We'll get some really different set-lists, songs not heard for some time" they said

And it's the same stock set list as they've played for years :rolleyes:

Lithium93_

scudzilla wrote: »

Meh

"Let the fans vote on what songs they wanna hear" they said

"We'll get some really different set-lists, songs not heard for some time" they said

And it's the same stock set list as they've played for years :rolleyes:

There setlist from the March 20th show threw up some gems, and Sad But True & Nothing Else Matters were left out

Metallica Lima, Peru Setlist

Battery
Master of Puppets
Welcome Home (Sanitarium)
Disposable Heroes
The Unforgiven
Lords of Summer
...And Justice for All
The Four Horsemen
Whiplash
Orion
One
Ride the Lightning
Fight Fire With Fire
Fade to Black
Enter Sandman
Creeping Death
Hit the Lights
Seek & Destroy

StaticAge11

Anyone see the campaign to get Fixxxer played in Canada for charity? Not going very well when I last checked....

Devilman40k

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/metallica-talk-effortless-dio-tribute-hear-it-here-first-20140324

The above link has the full version of Ronnie Rising from the Ronnie James Dio tribute album.

StaticAge11

That Ronnie Rising medley is fantastic. Love Hetfields voice on it!

Lithium93_

That Ronnie Rising medley = *MIND BLOWN* it's amazing

zcorpian88

Ronnie Rising Medley, awesome

All round awesome, Hetfield sounds brilliant, Kirk sounds bitchin, and dare I say it but Lars sounds a lot better. He can drum covers better than his own songs lately, and Rob I can only really hear him when I plug in earphones, great blend of tunes

ush

Great Ritchie Blackmore tribute!

hidinginthebush

That's a fantastic medley! Dio is the fucking king! The band are all on top form.