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King George VI

scudzilla wrote: »

No, they ceased being a Thrash band over 20yrs ago

Touché sir. But to be fair, Death Magnetic was a decent thrash album. Maybe they aren't world leaders in thrash but they're getting back to their roots, even if it isn't at the level they were at 20 years ago.

Johnwayne98

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

that's not metallica though

Bob rock did a good job on their black album whereas he made an absolute hames of St Anger

scudzilla

St. Jimmy wrote: »

Touché sir. But to be fair, Death Magnetic was a decent thrash album. Maybe they aren't world leaders in thrash but they're getting back to their roots, even if it isn't at the level they were at 20 years ago.

I wouldn't call DM a Thrash album, just a regular Metal album.

The last thrash album they did was MoP

Johnwayne98

jack presley wrote: »

Industrial strength locks on the doors so once they go in, they can't get out until the album's finished. No more 'escape from the studio' tours or one off gigs to keep the bank balance ticking over.

"Keeps the pool warm" as Lars would put it.

Johnwayne98

jack presley wrote: »

Industrial strength locks on the doors so once they go in, they can't get out until the album's finished. No more 'escape from the studio' tours or one off gigs to keep the bank balance ticking over.

But weren't they crammed into the studio for the pile of feculant that became St Anger?

Johnwayne98

St. Jimmy wrote: »

Is Metallica not the leading thrash metal band of the world?

If they stayed true to their thrash metal roots then they would be but remember the soft phase they went through with "Load", cutting their hair,kirk's black nail varnish and his eyeliner,songs like 'until it sleeps',they went all arty and tried to reinvent their image and new logo under another guise. It cost them a lot of staunchly loyal fans,selling out to commercialism and outgrowing their roots.

scudzilla

Johnwayne98 wrote: »

But weren't they crammed into the studio for the pile of feculant that became St Anger?

How about just quoting a post and putting all you have to say in 1 post, rather than quoting a post 3/4 times and saying something different for each one?

Johnwayne98

scudzilla wrote: »

How about just quoting a post and putting all you have to say in 1 post, rather than quoting a post 3/4 times and saying something different for each one?

Ok

King George VI

scudzilla wrote: »

I wouldn't call DM a Thrash album, just a regular Metal album.

The last thrash album they did was MoP

Really? Sounds thrashy to me. And I always considered Justice a thrash album. Am I really out that of touch with thrash?
No. No it's the children who are wrong

King George VI

Johnwayne98 wrote: »

Ok

Johnwayne98 wrote: »

Ok

Nice.

jack presley

St. Jimmy wrote: »

Really? Sounds thrashy to me. And I always considered Justice a thrash album. Am I really out that of touch with thrash?
No. No it's the children who are wrong

If there's one thing I hate about rock/metal, it's the arguments over which genre an artist or album falls into. Is it thrash, speed, death metal etc.?

Ash.J.Williams

St. Jimmy wrote: »

Is Metallica not the leading thrash metal band of the world?

certainly not

Ash.J.Williams

Johnwayne98 wrote: »

If they stayed true to their thrash metal roots then they would be but remember the soft phase they went through with "Load", cutting their hair,kirk's black nail varnish and his eyeliner,songs like 'until it sleeps',they went all arty and tried to reinvent their image and new logo under another guise. It cost them a lot of staunchly loyal fans,selling out to commercialism and outgrowing their roots.

outgrowing is a good thing

StaticAge11

So we may finally be getting Frayed Ends of Sanity live this week!

ush

Johnwayne98 wrote: »

If they stayed true to their thrash metal roots then they would be but remember the soft phase they went through with "Load", cutting their hair,kirk's black nail varnish and his eyeliner,songs like 'until it sleeps',they went all arty and tried to reinvent their image and new logo under another guise. It cost them a lot of staunchly loyal fans,selling out to commercialism and outgrowing their roots.

Load was Metallica going back to their roots. The seventies blues-inspired sound is the root of all metal. The trash thing had run its course.

Until It Sleeps is calculated grunge by numbers. Quiet/Loud/Quiet/Loud. But a lot of that Load/Reload era stuff would come naturally to musicians with their background. St Anger era stuff, I thought was too much of a stretch. Trying to sound like Slipknot. But the ZZ Top inspired stuff on Load is a natural fit.

The eyeliner and feather boas was just peacocking. James had his Donington 1995 mullet at the same time. But Metallica have never really been comfortable in their skin since then. The whole Metallica family and Lulu episodes are along the same lines. Its tough at the top.

Ash.J.Williams

if you sit down to write an album in the confines of a genre of metal then you should be killed....

ush

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

if you sit down to write an album in the confines of a genre of metal then you should be killed....

Metallica would be first up against the wall then.

They're very analytical it terms of what direction an album should head. Picking apart whats current (Black Album) or what they should be doing to reclaim former glories (DM). Management is gonna have input too.

Lithium93_

As long as Metallica's 10th studio album carries on from where Death Magnetic left off, i'll be happy.

Ash.J.Williams

ush wrote: »

Metallica would be first up against the wall then.

They're very analytical it terms of what direction an album should head. Picking apart whats current (Black Album) or what they should be doing to reclaim former glories (DM). Management is gonna have input too.

i felt they were original and non genre specific up until black

Degag

StaticAge11 wrote: »

So we may finally be getting Frayed Ends of Sanity live this week!

280 votes ahead of Whiskey for the gig tomorrow night. Looking good! Can't wait.

jack presley

Degag wrote: »

280 votes ahead of Whiskey for the gig tomorrow night. Looking good! Can't wait.

Hopefully there isn't a late surge in voting by irish fans with tickets.

Degag

jack presley wrote: »

Hopefully there isn't a late surge in voting by irish fans with tickets.

Haha yeah, there's another 3 or 4 songs in between so should be ok!

Johnwayne98

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

outgrowing is a good thing

But is it a good thing? Or would it be better to give the staunch followers what they want, more thrash?

Johnwayne98

jack presley wrote: »

If there's one thing I hate about rock/metal, it's the arguments over which genre an artist or album falls into. Is it thrash, speed, death metal etc.?

Justice is definitely thrash, take dyers eve for example

scudzilla

Johnwayne98 wrote: »

But is it a good thing? Or would it be better to give the staunch followers what they want, more thrash?

Johnwayne98 wrote: »

Justice is definitely thrash, take dyers eve for example

Johnwayne98 wrote: »

Justice is definitely thrash, take dyers eve for example

Johnwayne98 wrote: »

But is it a good thing? Or would it be better to give the staunch followers what they want, more thrash?

Johnwayne98 wrote: »

But is it a good thing? Or would it be better to give the staunch followers what they want, more thrash?

You SERIOUSLY need to sort out your posting style

Kess73

Lithium93_ wrote: »

As long as Metallica's 10th studio album carries on from where Death Magnetic left off, i'll be happy.

If they come out with a good album, be it rock or metal, then I would be happy.


For me, Load was the last good album they released. Everything since then has felt very forced, and I genuinely think if some small band had released DM then it's release would have come and gone without registering on the radar of many people.


DM sounded like it was made by a band trying to sound like what they thinks others want to to be.

Compare it to the likes of The Formation of Damnation which came out the same year, and one sounds like a band comfortable with the music they are making and the other sounds manufactured.

Am certainly not a Metallica hater given they were one of the bands I grew up listening to from the mid 80's onward, but would love to pick up a new Metallica album and feel like it is what they want to sound like rather than what they think they should sound like.

Mental Mickey

Didnt think DM was forced tbh. Thought SA was very forced & rushed

scudzilla

Kess73 wrote: »

If they come out with a good album, be it rock or metal, then I would be happy.


For me, Load was the last good album they released. Everything since then has felt very forced, and I genuinely think if some small band had released DM then it's release would have come and gone without registering on the radar of many people.


DM sounded like it was made by a band trying to sound like what they thinks others want to to be.

Compare it to the likes of The Formation of Damnation which came out the same year, and one sounds like a band comfortable with the music they are making and the other sounds manufactured.

Am certainly not a Metallica hater given they were one of the bands I grew up listening to from the mid 80's onward, but would love to pick up a new Metallica album and feel like it is what they want to sound like rather than what they think they should sound like.

Now i liked DM, was certainly a step in the right direction, but whatever momentum they MAY have had from it is gone now, if the new album comes out next year then that's 7 years, way too long by anyone's standards.

Bring back the days of bands knocking out classic albums in a few weeks

Lithium93_

scudzilla wrote: »

Now i liked DM, was certainly a step in the right direction, but whatever momentum they MAY have had from it is gone now, if the new album comes out next year then that's 7 years, way too long by anyone's standards.

Bring back the days of bands knocking out classic albums in a few weeks

7 years too long to release an album (A certain W. Axl Rose would disagree)

The days of bands hammering out albums in a couple of weeks is long gone

scudzilla

Lithium93_ wrote: »

7 years too long to release an album (A certain W. Axl Rose would disagree)

The days of bands hammering out albums in a couple of weeks is long gone

I know it's gone but why? Some of the best albums ever were recorded in 2-3 weeks