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Lithium93_

World Premier of Master Of Puppets from New Year's Eve 1985.

peter1892

lord lucan wrote: »

Finally some video of the 96 show at the Point Depot has surfaced,about three quarters of the show available,brings back a lot of memories.

http://youtu.be/b2Nr_jkOLhI

Brought back a few memories alright - especially how bad the view was in a lot of the old Point Depot! Good gig (a pity the video doesn't have the last few songs).

Mental Mickey

lord lucan wrote: »

Finally some video of the 96 show at the Point Depot has surfaced,about three quarters of the show available,brings back a lot of memories.

http://youtu.be/b2Nr_jkOLhI

That was one mental gig!!!!

ush

peter1892 wrote: »

Good gig (a pity the video doesn't have the last few songs).

90 min video tape.

seachto7

lord lucan wrote: »

Finally some video of the 96 show at the Point Depot has surfaced,about three quarters of the show available,brings back a lot of memories.

http://youtu.be/b2Nr_jkOLhI

A vid of CoC on the same night would be unreal!

briany

Lithium93_ wrote: »

James probably didn't have any problems with his bandmates jamming with other musicians, but given where Metallica were at the start of the millenium and James coming to terms with his alcohol problem, maybe he saw Jason's planning to tour with Echobrain as a sign of Jason abandoning Metallica and decided to stop that dead in it's tracks. Didn't James's father abandon him at an early age?

Now at 51 years old, James is in a better space mentally than he was 15 years ago and probably wouldn't mind Robert doing what he's doing now as long as it didn't interfere with the day job, and like you said that the only way James would/could let it slide is if Robert's supergroup opened a Metallica show on a future world tour.

Anyways, i hope that makes some kind of sense.

Sometimes it sounds like Metallica's the parent whose first child was tragically killed (Cliff), their second they mistreated out of grief and now they're trying to make up for all that with the third (Rob).

AllGunsBlazing

I think Rob is the kind person who commands people's respect to begin with. He doesn't seem like the kind of guy you could push around. Whereas Jason was maybe a bit too passive for his own good. The other guys in the band saw him as an easy target.

Aircraft Freak

Somebody posted the full concert from Dublin in 2009, they must have had a few mic's on the stage, the sound is amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxEleM6yJRA

Beekay

Aircraft Freak wrote: »

Somebody posted the full concert from Dublin in 2009, they must have had a few mic's on the stage, the sound is amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxEleM6yJRA

Think they just synced the video with the Metallica live audio

briany

AllGunsBlazing wrote: »

I think Rob is the kind person who commands people's respect to begin with. He doesn't seem like the kind of guy you could push around. Whereas Jason was maybe a bit too passive for his own good. The other guys in the band saw him as an easy target.

That's funny because I always saw it as the opposite. Rob seems like the most easy going guy around. If he had been in Jason's shoes back in '86, I imagine he would have been in for the same treatment.

hidinginthebush

briany wrote: »

That's funny because I always saw it as the opposite. Rob seems like the most easy going guy around. If he had been in Jason's shoes back in '86, I imagine he would have been in for the same treatment.

Its always seemed to me that they respect him more than they did Jason. In Jason's case, he was a huge fan who got the chance of a lifetime of playing in his favourite band, so was probably easy for them to see him as smaller than them. Whereas in robs case, he was already an established star in his own right. Plus, imo rob is technically a better player than Jason. In the skom they're all visibly impressed at robs audition, so there is an instant mutual respect. maybe as well there was some opinion that Jason didn't put the work in, playing small gigs, hustling at a young age to get the band going, Metallica were already huge by the time he joined the band, so maybe there was some friction there.

For full disclosure I was 5 when Jason joined, so can't say I'm fully equipped to voice an opinion on the fine points from that era.

jack presley

hidinginthebush wrote: »

Its always seemed to me that they respect him more than they did Jason.

My 2 cents is that they've just grown up a bit and aren't acting like school bullies anymore.

scudzilla

Aircraft Freak wrote: »

Somebody posted the full concert from Dublin in 2009, they must have had a few mic's on the stage, the sound is amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxEleM6yJRA

Not the full concert either, that version is only 1hr 14mins

Aircraft Freak

This version of Dyres eve by revocation is savage, play it full blast, although I prefer Hetfields voice, double bass all the way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_qYVAhhd_U

Ash.J.Williams

hidinginthebush wrote: »

Its always seemed to me that they respect him more than they did Jason. In Jason's case, he was a huge fan who got the chance of a lifetime of playing in his favourite band, so was probably easy for them to see him as smaller than them. Whereas in robs case, he was already an established star in his own right. Plus, imo rob is technically a better player than Jason. In the skom they're all visibly impressed at robs audition, so there is an instant mutual respect. maybe as well there was some opinion that Jason didn't put the work in, playing small gigs, hustling at a young age to get the band going, Metallica were already huge by the time he joined the band, so maybe there was some friction there.

For full disclosure I was 5 when Jason joined, so can't say I'm fully equipped to voice an opinion on the fine points from that era.

Rob joined adult metallica, Jason didn't.

Aircraft Freak

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Rob joined adult metallica, Jason didn't.

James was 23 when Jason joined, and by all accounts they were nut jobs at the time, Cliff and James were very close, it was inevitable that any new bassist was going to get seriously hazed no matter who it was.

It's a pity, sober Metallica are getting better and better all the time. Jason would have loved the setup now. I'd say he misses it big time, and is probably a bit envious of Rob, it definitely looked like it at the reunion when he played with them.

Mad isn't it!? 23 and 3 savage albums produced, amazing stuff.

briany

Aircraft Freak wrote: »

It's a pity, sober Metallica are getting better and better all the time. Jason would have loved the setup now. I'd say he misses it big time, and is probably a bit envious of Rob, it definitely looked like it at the reunion when he played with them.

Mad isn't it!? 23 and 3 savage albums produced, amazing stuff.

Yeah, I'd say Jason wishes things could have gone a different way. It always seemed that he left Metallica because he was given little other recourse.

It's the way of it that bands make their best stuff, usually, when they're young and full of beans. George Harrision was only about 23/24 when he was playing on Sgt. Pepper, the rest of the Beatles only a couple of years older.

StaticAge11

That 2009 video, my 2 seconds of fame during seek and destroy. Good memories. My cracking teenage voice, not so good :P

AllGunsBlazing

briany wrote: »

That's funny because I always saw it as the opposite. Rob seems like the most easy going guy around. If he had been in Jason's shoes back in '86, I imagine he would have been in for the same treatment.

Rob is far more streetwise than Jason ever was or will be. What comes across as easy going is more likely somebody who is totally at ease with themselves and knows how to handle their business. Very similar to Cliff in that respect.

There was one backstage tune up video I saw where Lars was getting quite uppity with Rob to the point of being borderline racist. Didn't phase Rob in the slightest he took the jibes in his stride and engaged him with a bit of his own banter and made Lars look like a total jackass in front of everyone. Much to the amusement of James.

Aircraft Freak

AllGunsBlazing wrote: »

Rob is far more streetwise than Jason ever was or will be. What comes across as easy going is more likely somebody who is totally at ease with themselves and knows how to handle their business. Very similar to Cliff in that respect.

There was one backstage tune up video I saw where Lars was getting quite uppity with Rob to the point of being borderline racist. Didn't phase Rob in the slightest he took the jibes in his stride and engaged him with a bit of his own banter and made Lars look like a total jackass in front of everyone. Much to the amusement of James.

Link ?

Lithium93_

Metallica ski's anyone??

http://www.metallica.com/news/20150211-187573.asp

scudzilla

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Metallica ski's anyone??

http://www.metallica.com/news/20150211-187573.asp

Ah FFS, why does nothing surprise me wit these guys anymore, always makes me wonder what Cliff would have thought about this selling out

Lithium93_

scudzilla wrote: »

Ah FFS, why does nothing surprise me wit these guys anymore, always makes me wonder what Cliff would have thought about this selling out

I would think it's their management who keep coming up with these wacky ideas to further stall the work on the follow up to Death Magnetic. Cliff would probably be rolling in his grave at these shenanigans.

jack presley

Lithium93_ wrote: »

I would think it's their management who keep coming up with these wacky ideas to further stall the work on the follow up to Death Magnetic. Cliff would probably be rolling in his grave at these shenanigans.

i don't know would he. The 1986 Cliff yes probably but a 2015 Cliff, we'll never know. I'm sure in 1986 we would have thought the same about James but he's changed to a degree where he supports this stuff so we'll never know how a 50+ year old Cliff would view commercialism etc.

Lithium93_

I guess it's all about making money for the guys these days, with the odd world tour thrown in for good measure.

Aircraft Freak

Lithium93_ wrote: »

I guess it's all about making money for the guys these days, with the odd world tour thrown in for good measure.

I watched SKOM today again, after watching it I'm convinced Jason's current dissapeearance is related to him not being in metallica anymore, I think the man is totally jealous of the new found success. I'm sure he's fúcking bored out of his mind.

All the newsted heavy metal stuff was trying to prove that he doesn't need them, which backfired. He called them a bunch of homos in SKOM in a phone message, funny I never took notice of that the first time I watched it. I'm convinced that the new metallica is what he wanted, his acceptance speech in the hall if fame spoke volumes to where his head was at in relation to metallica.

He misses it big time, oh and you can hear Robs bass.

Whiskeyjack

Aircraft Freak wrote: »

I watched SKOM today again, after watching it I'm convinced Jason's current dissapeearance is related to him not being in metallica anymore, I think the man is totally jealous of the new found success. I'm sure he's fúcking bored out of his mind.

All the newsted heavy metal stuff was trying to prove that he doesn't need them, which backfired. He called them a bunch of homos in SKOM in a phone message, funny I never took notice of that the first time I watched it. I'm convinced that the new metallica is what he wanted, his acceptance speech in the hall if fame spoke volumes to where his head was at in relation to metallica.

He misses it big time, oh and you can hear Robs bass.

well he disappeared for a while due to an arm injury, then came back with his own band recently. It's a solid metal album, I'd say better than a lot of metallica's newer output, a lot more consistent than Death Magnetic but doesn't reach the same highs

StaticAge11

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Metallica ski's anyone??

http://www.metallica.com/news/20150211-187573.asp

If it was a snowboard I'd be all over that :P

Ash.J.Williams

Aircraft Freak wrote: »

I watched SKOM today again, after watching it I'm convinced Jason's current dissapeearance is related to him not being in metallica anymore, I think the man is totally jealous of the new found success. I'm sure he's fúcking bored out of his mind.

All the newsted heavy metal stuff was trying to prove that he doesn't need them, which backfired. He called them a bunch of homos in SKOM in a phone message, funny I never took notice of that the first time I watched it. I'm convinced that the new metallica is what he wanted, his acceptance speech in the hall if fame spoke volumes to where his head was at in relation to metallica.

He misses it big time, oh and you can hear Robs bass.

yeah strange vanishing when his band were only getting things going. His guitarist did let somethings slip and then changed the subject something like this "yeah well for it wasn't like the old days ....i mean ...eh.....nice weather we're having"

byrneg28

Slither by Metallica.


Riffs very representative of Lenny Kravitz – Are you gonna go my way

And then a guitar solo that is the exact same as Enter Sandman.