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Motley Crue

A guy in the MetClub wants to win VIP tickets to Halifax to see Metallica, he lives there, and needs some help. He's entered a competition to win some on Facebook and needs votes to help keep him in the lead.

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=question&id=229332173768336

Link on the link, sign into your account, and please vote for Benjamin by Nick M (2nd one down from top)

Come on folks, he is a fellow Metallica fan, and you can call it your good deed for the day

yknaa

Bargain alert. 'Big 4' boxset (5cd and 2dvd version) for sale on play.com now for €32

Degag

yknaa wrote: »

Bargain alert. 'Big 4' boxset (5cd and 2dvd version) for sale on play.com now for €32

Can't see it on there for that price???

yknaa

Degag wrote: »

Can't see it on there for that price???

Yup - there and gone! Bought it but then received a mail later saying 'out of stock' and it is now back up to €72. FFS :mad:

DrumSteve

Motley Crue wrote: »

God willing or touch wood I mean, I don't think it will be though;)

I just hope the band don't suddenly decide to jack it in or Lars and James don't have a huge fight and go their separate ways....Metallica is a massive institution, a fast moving train, and it came to a stop once before because of James drinking and Jason's departure - hopefully Lars doesn't get hit by a bus or something lol

I hope they do... and they get in a drummer who gives a ****.

Actually just throw a bucket of money at dave lombardo... Can you imagine Dyers Eve with him on the drums...?

Motley Crue

DrumSteve wrote: »

Actually just throw a bucket of money at dave lombardo... Can you imagine Dyers Eve with him on the drums...?

Well Dave was fairly decent on the songs he did with them at Download a few years ago alright

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRPOE7-1vAU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqSeGYwGRQ8

lord lucan

DrumSteve wrote: »

I hope they do... and they get in a drummer who gives a ****.

Actually just throw a bucket of money at dave lombardo... Can you imagine Dyers Eve with him on the drums...?

Lars goes and that's Metallica finished. Despite his low standard of drumming he's still the linchpin of Metallica along with Hetfield.

You won't find many Met fans who wouldn't want to see a Metallica with Lombardo but a this stage it's just a nice dream. Perversely having the big 4 on one stage highlights just how far down the Metal drumming chain he's fallen. Benante,Drover and Lombardo are streets ahead(Lombardo is in a different league tbh) of him. After watching Lombardo annihilate Knebworth with his drumming(i spent half of Slayers set watching the close-ups of him on the big screen with my gob on the floor.) and then to see Lars follow and throw his usual shapes and make it look like he's playing the hardest anyones ever played served to show the gulf.

I've a lot of time for Lars,he's a nice guy and really loves his band but his prowess behind his kit is waning badly now. He admits he doesn't practice anymore which sorta tells you all you need to know.

DrumSteve

lord lucan wrote: »

Lars goes and that's Metallica finished. Despite his low standard of drumming he's still the linchpin of Metallica along with Hetfield.

You won't find many Met fans who wouldn't want to see a Metallica with Lombardo but a this stage it's just a nice dream. Perversely having the big 4 on one stage highlights just how far down the Metal drumming chain he's fallen. Benante,Drover and Lombardo are streets ahead(Lombardo is in a different league tbh) of him. After watching Lombardo annihilate Knebworth with his drumming(i spent half of Slayers set watching the close-ups of him on the big screen with my gob on the floor.) and then to see Lars follow and throw his usual shapes and make it look like he's playing the hardest anyones ever played served to show the gulf.

I've a lot of time for Lars,he's a nice guy and really loves his band but his prowess behind his kit is waning badly now. He admits he doesn't practice anymore which sorta tells you all you need to know.

Tbf though he's just lazy. Look at the Mexico dvd... still some good flourishes.

Your dead right about lombardo being in a different league.

Motley Crue

lord lucan wrote: »

I've a lot of time for Lars,he's a nice guy and really loves his band but his prowess behind his kit is waning badly now. He admits he doesn't practice anymore which sorta tells you all you need to know.

Amazing how a drummer in one of the most arguably recognizable musical acts on the planet just can't keep up with the basics of drumming and doesn't even practice.

Reminds me of this bloke....



although this is a more entertaining photo

Malice

lord lucan wrote:

I've a lot of time for Lars,he's a nice guy

Funnily enough almost anything I've ever seen of, or read about him suggests the exact opposite .

lord lucan

Malice wrote: »

Funnily enough almost anything I've ever seen of, or read about him suggests the exact opposite .

I base my opinion on what fans who've met him have said and my own experience meeting him. I found him very amiable and attentive. He came across like he was actually listening to you and not just humouring you. He was enthusiastic about talk of previous gigs(still calls it the Point Depot,top marks:D) and forthright about why they didn't hit Dublin indoors last time out.

He's a mega wealthy man and practically lives on a different planet to me. He's a motormouth and used to annoy me a bit during TBA era when he was on MTV every 5 mins babbling about something or other. He seems to have calmed down a bit over the last few years. I reckon some of that was following the battering his name and image took in the wake of Napster when he was the public face of Metallica's war on downloading.

Degag

lord lucan wrote: »

and forthright about why they didn't hit Dublin indoors last time out.

What was the reason?

scudzilla

Degag wrote: »

What was the reason?

Venue couldn't accommodate an 'In the Round' set up

Lemmy Scott

Lads ye do realise that metallica totally sold out after and justice for all today they are the milly vanilli of thrash
i still listen to the old albums but im afraid that musically they are washed up has beens who care more abt money than their fans
i saw metallica in their prime 20 years ago they were good.

Another thing that oaf on bass rob is some idiot

DrumSteve

Lemmy Scott wrote: »

Lads ye do realise that metallica totally sold out after and justice for all today they are the milly vanilli of thrash
i still listen to the old albums but im afraid that musically they are washed up has beens who care more abt money than their fans
i saw metallica in their prime 20 years ago they were good.

Another thing that oaf on bass rob is some idiot

There is a lot wrong with that post.

1) Milli Vanilli? Metallica play all their own instruments and write original songs. regardless of their talent level (lars) they are usually good for a few tunes at least.

2) Sold out? You mean made one of the most definitive rock albums ever and made a **** load of money from touring that album for years at a time which almost destroyed them?

3) Rob is a legend.

lord lucan

scudzilla wrote: »

Venue couldn't accommodate an 'In the Round' set up

Yep. He said they looked into various permutations to make it work but wasn't happening. That's how they booked 2 nights for Belfast as they figured demand would be high.

Jako8

If Metallica did end it'd be interesting to see what Hetfield and Kirk do. Lar would probably retire and talk about art or something, Rob would move on but I wonder would James and Kirk do solo stuff or retire or what?

I don't want them to end, though. :P I'm actually looking forward to the Lou Reed collab.

scudzilla

Jako8 wrote: »

If Metallica did end it'd be interesting to see what Hetfield and Kirk do. Lar would probably retire and talk about art or something, Rob would move on but I wonder would James and Kirk do solo stuff or retire or what?

I don't want them to end, though. :P I'm actually looking forward to the Lou Reed collab.

If it did end i couldn't see any of the guys (except maybe Rob) going into a different project, sure ya may see them pop up now and again as a guest artist but doubt they'd start/join any other bands full time, i mean it's only downhill after Metallica.

Kirk would probably retire to Hawaii and surf all day, I think James would just disappear totally, like you'll never hear from him again, pretty private person is old James. Lars would just go around annoying every fcucker till the end of his days, probably go into producing part time

lord lucan

scudzilla wrote: »

Lars would just go around annoying every fcucker till the end of his days, probably go into producing part time

He'd probably reform Oasis with the Gallagher brothers and him on drums!:pac:

Malice

Lemmy Scott wrote: »

Another thing that oaf on bass rob is some idiot

Why do you think that?

scudzilla

lord lucan wrote: »

He'd probably reform Oasis with the Gallagher brothers and him on drums!:pac:

And what would they name the band?? 'Bunch of Twats' would be appropriate

shamrock55

is there talk of the band finishing or something:eek:

scudzilla

shamrock55 wrote: »

is there talk of the band finishing or something:eek:

Nah, some years left in the old dogs yet, just discussing what they'll do when it's over

scudzilla

Malice wrote: »

Why do you think that?

You should know better


DO NOT FEED THE TROLL!!!

lord lucan

scudzilla wrote: »

And what would they name the band?? 'Bunch of Twats' would be appropriate

Don't look back in St. Anger!:pac:











With extra tin pot snare

scudzilla

lord lucan wrote: »

Don't look back in St. Anger!:pac:











With extra tin pot snare

If yer referring to St Anger don't ya mean Biscuit Tins instead of Snares?

lord lucan

scudzilla wrote: »

If yer referring to St Anger don't ya mean Biscuit Tins instead of Snares?

Biscuit tins is being kind tbh.

Motley Crue

I personally think, barring a major fight or a fatal accident, Metallica will continue to perform in some capacity until at least either James or Lars dies

Maybe once they reach their mid 60s they will decide to curb touring to a few shows every now and again, mostly either acoustic or invite only gigs, but I reckon we have another 20 years of Metallica touring on a regular basis - just look at bands like Deep Purple, Rolling Stones, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest...the list goes on, lots of bands who tour well into their 60s

StonedEnigma

I think you're right. Reckon it's safe to say they'll be going for a long time to come yet, barring the God that failed forbid, anything untoward happening... It's life for these guys, not that easy to give up when it's all you've being doing since teenage years... I can't imagine Lars going to work in behind a deli counter just yet...a la Mickey Rourke in "The Wrestler":)

Riddle101

Agreed with the two above. There in their late 40's, so I reckon they've got years left. Not sure if I like the idea of them playing into their 60's though. I mean, I just think there's a certain time when a band should hang it up. Even though I love Metallica, I wouldn't want them to be like the Rolling Stones, and keep playing, and end up overstaying their welcome and just tarnishing their reputations. With all due respect to Stones, they just need to hang it up now.

For Metallica I reckon another 10 years will do

Motley Crue

Riddle101 wrote: »

Even though I love Metallica, I wouldn't want them to be like the Rolling Stones, and keep playing, and end up overstaying their welcome and just tarnishing their reputations. With all due respect to Stones, they just need to hang it up now.

Jason always used to say that, he always used to say he figured that Metallica would finish when the time came and they couldn't physically do it....personally I don't think James ever agreed with him

jemser

They like playing and they like money,there going to keep going for a few years yet

slavetothegrind

i think most touring bands continue because when they are not on tour they don't know what to do with themselves!

after a year and a half on the road they take a few months off, work on an album and off again on tour.

if they stop then what?


they get bored.

their lives have benn and continue to be abnormal in that sense, they are practically institutionalised , metallica being the institution.

my real hope is that lars gets bored of it and they get a decent drummer in for a tour, probably never happen as he is one egocentric mutha!

DrumSteve

Motley Crue wrote: »

Jason always used to say that, he always used to say he figured that Metallica would finish when the time came and they couldn't physically do it....personally I don't think James ever agreed with him

Yeah cos James is still physically able to play the stuff... Lars on the other hand...

StonedEnigma

Lars is able alright...I just don't think he's that willing or interested in drums that much anymore, the financial and business side of Metallica is where his head is really at. Some would say it's located up his arse...but I digress....:)
If Ian Paice from Deep Purple and others, who are much older, can still play dynamically night after night..then Lars can do it too...the question is if he wants to do it...

Motley Crue

StonedEnigma wrote: »

If Ian Paice from Deep Purple and others, who are much older, can still play dynamically night after night..then Lars can do it too...the question is if he wants to do it...

He's sort of forced too isn't he, I mean he has to play in order to earn more money and continue the business, and I think it would absurd to see Lars hire a replacement for himself so he's sort of stuck in this catch 22 - if he wants to continue with the business he has to continue performing

Then again, Lars may decide to adopt a new approach to drumming altogether on the next album, and immerse himself in that.

I felt his work on Death Magnetic was excellent, I didn't see anything particular worrying about it, I think people find it so easy to criticise Metallica and Lars in particular but he does do a good job when the time comes and he can create a unique sound

slavetothegrind

saw this today, joey filling in on creeping death.

now he is a class drummer BUT jeysus man the double bass fills are just rediculously fast and over the top!

dare i say it, i would have prefered lars.....:eek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPQNraQwFuI

jack presley

Apparently Lars wanted to hurt us

http://www.nme.com/news/metallica/58116

Motley Crue

jack presley wrote: »

Apparently Lars wanted to hurt us

http://www.nme.com/news/metallica/58116

This is an interesting interview. It was published, from what I can tell, in full in Classic Rock about 2 months ago. It's a well written and well discussed interview in which Lars talks about stuff like his first wife and the Justice Tour with humour and honesty.

Then for some reason it shows up on NME - last night Blabbermouth picked it up, but in the two latter situations they ignored all the positives about the interview and focused on the negative quotes used to talk about St Anger and nothing else.

This isn't new, neither is it news, because we all know St Anger was a terrible record (albeit with a little good) and we don't need Lars attempting to avoid answering the question - Lars can't badmouth his own terrible creation, even if he wants too, just as much as he can't honestly admit the bass doesn't exist on AJFA...

Do yourself a favour and seek out the original interview from Classic Rock, it's well written and a credit to the Journalist for thinking outside the box, just a shame this idiot culture we have on Blabbermouth.net and NME means that we get nothing but rehashes of St Anger.


....AND IN OTHER ST ANGER NEWS....

When the album was originally released, it was planned to have the cover in four different colours (maybe some of you have seen the lithographs), anyway this didn't happen...but last night a fan in the US posted on the MetClub that he had just been to Walmart and found, and purchased, an alternative colour cover for St Anger - so rare even the admin of the MetClub had to enquire how he managed to find it....

StonedEnigma

Interesting article Jack.
" Ulrich also said that though he understood why some people rated 'St Anger' as the band's worst album, he didn't personally couldn't rank Metallica's releases. He added: "I think it’s fair to say some people think it’s our worst album. But I can’t. The way I view the world, I can’t rank them from best to worst. That kind of simplicity doesn’t exist for me."

I'm glad that kind of simplicity doesn't exist for Lars (as he's still selling records;), but it does for a lot of people/fans. St. Anger is easily their poorest release for me. Unfortunately, motley I would disagree in some ways, as much I like Lars and Metallica,- he hasn't immersed himself in drumming for a long time or adopted any new approaches to drumming. Death Magnetic was a good album, and a definite step back in the right direction, however. I'll still be very interested to see where they go from here. I think people in the drumming community , especially, are a little disappointed that he has removed himself from being focused on the drums, to being more business-oriented within the Metallica organisation. (And let's face it,- Metallica is an organisation and has been for a long time. And why not?) It is easy for people to take pot shots and make grandiose remarks about their idols or heroes, but as a fan, I'd like to think we can look objectively at our heroes and not think every single thing they do is wonderful!
His once stellar drumming from the 80's and early 90's has waned, and I don't think that's a lofty or supernatural statement. He's still good, but a lot of fans feel his drum skills haven't progressed since the 90's. As he once said himself "Drumming is one of the least things I do in Metallica".

shamrock55

Motley Crue wrote: »

This is an interesting interview. It was published, from what I can tell, in full in Classic Rock about 2 months ago. It's a well written and well discussed interview in which Lars talks about stuff like his first wife and the Justice Tour with humour and honesty.

Then for some reason it shows up on NME - last night Blabbermouth picked it up, but in the two latter situations they ignored all the positives about the interview and focused on the negative quotes used to talk about St Anger and nothing else.

This isn't new, neither is it news, because we all know St Anger was a terrible record (albeit with a little good) and we don't need Lars attempting to avoid answering the question - Lars can't badmouth his own terrible creation, even if he wants too, just as much as he can't honestly admit the bass doesn't exist on AJFA...

Do yourself a favour and seek out the original interview from Classic Rock, it's well written and a credit to the Journalist for thinking outside the box, just a shame this idiot culture we have on Blabbermouth.net and NME means that we get nothing but rehashes of St Anger.


....AND IN OTHER ST ANGER NEWS....

When the album was originally released, it was planned to have the cover in four different colours (maybe some of you have seen the lithographs), anyway this didn't happen...but last night a fan in the US posted on the MetClub that he had just been to Walmart and found, and purchased, an alternative colour cover for St Anger - so rare even the admin of the MetClub had to enquire how he managed to find it....

thats just been in the shop so long that its faded:D

DrumSteve

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PIO4RKZ5oA

Just found this online... it's prtty funny in places.

Mental Mickey

StonedEnigma wrote: »

Interesting article Jack.
" Ulrich also said that though he understood why some people rated 'St Anger' as the band's worst album, he didn't personally couldn't rank Metallica's releases. He added: "I think it’s fair to say some people think it’s our worst album. But I can’t. The way I view the world, I can’t rank them from best to worst. That kind of simplicity doesn’t exist for me."

I'm glad that kind of simplicity doesn't exist for Lars (as he's still selling records;), but it does for a lot of people/fans. St. Anger is easily their poorest release for me. Unfortunately, motley I would disagree in some ways, as much I like Lars and Metallica,- he hasn't immersed himself in drumming for a long time or adopted any new approaches to drumming. Death Magnetic was a good album, and a definite step back in the right direction, however. I'll still be very interested to see where they go from here. I think people in the drumming community , especially, are a little disappointed that he has removed himself from being focused on the drums, to being more business-oriented within the Metallica organisation. (And let's face it,- Metallica is an organisation and has been for a long time. And why not?) It is easy for people to take pot shots and make grandiose remarks about their idols or heroes, but as a fan, I'd like to think we can look objectively at our heroes and not think every single thing they do is wonderful!
His once stellar drumming from the 80's and early 90's has waned, and I don't think that's a lofty or supernatural statement. He's still good, but a lot of fans feel his drum skills haven't progressed since the 90's. As he once said himself "Drumming is one of the least things I do in Metallica".

And so the old "Is Lars Ulrich good/bad at drumming" chestnut rears it's head, yet again!!!! This f***ing thread has a feel of Groundhog Day about it.

StaticAge11

There hasn't been any more word on the Lou Reed album since the initial announcement, has there?

Devilman40k

StaticAge11 wrote: »

There hasn't been any more word on the Lou Reed album since the initial announcement, has there?

only news I've seen lately is that the photo shoots have been done and artwork is in progress. I think they're looking at a November release for it.

StaticAge11

Devilman40k wrote: »

only news I've seen lately is that the photo shoots have been done and artwork is in progress. I think they're looking at a November release for it.

Thats more than I could find on the MetClub! thanks!!!

StonedEnigma

Originally posted by Mental Mickey
"And so the old "Is Lars Ulrich good/bad at drumming" chestnut rears it's head, yet again!!!! This f***ing thread has a feel of Groundhog Day about it."

I just joined boards man...give us a chance, jesus!..

Am I Evil?

Lars was excellent at sonisphere :pac:


Which I really shouldn't have to say but oh well ha

scudzilla

Am I Evil? wrote: »

Lars was excellent at sonisphere :pac:


Which I really shouldn't have to say but oh well ha

I think the discussion was about his drumming, not what the pair of ya got up to in his dressing room :P;)

Am I Evil?

you can stop sending me questions in private messages scud.. i wont tell you what we got up to :pac:


lars :cool: haha