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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 647 ✭✭✭Am I Evil?


    I agree, I miss the aggression the swearing used to bring during a metallica show. All I know is that Lars still curses like a ****er. Was watching one metontour vid where Lars was asking James to call everyone mother ****ers when he got on stage and he refused to do it.. this was jokingly asking though.

    I saw an interview with james once where he was asked about this and said its mainly because of him having kids now.

    Still does it the odd time, I'm just glad hes started doing the growling on harvester again :pac:

    And they do tour more than ever now basically so I think its safe to say they are stil very much into it,
    Just because they don't act aggressive doesnt change that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,959 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    I heard it was believed to be James son, but in true Hetfield family fashion, he neither stopped singing nor comforted the child after the song....it will make him more of a man in later life, and he may not thank James for it, but he'll certainly remember it!

    From Metallica.com

    In the whacky world of rock'n'roll, sometimes stuff happens which looks even weirder than it really is! And with context being vital in these situations, we just wanted to address something which happened on the tour the other night regarding a large beachball, a band member's foot and a little girl. Some of you will have seen on youtube (or read in some reports) that Kirk knocked a small child offstage by kicking a beachball at her. That little lady is the daughter of the stage manager and dressing coordinator, who are fortunate to travel as a family on this tour. She was thoroughly enjoying watching the beachballs drop from the rafters, Kirk was thoroughly enjoying kicking the beachballs off the stage and back into the crowd as has been done every night on the tour, and neither of them saw the other. The poor wee one happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. She wasn't hurt. She didn't go "flying several feet into the audience." And Kirk and she remain good buddies. It's very cool that everyone showed concern and support though, so we just wanted to say "it's all good" and thanks for asking.


    kirk.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,959 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    I'm a bit stuck on this, it's not that I want to hear an artist swear every 5 minutes and think it's cool and all that - if I did, I'd listen to Rap music, but the problem is that the lack of swearing has also seemed to take away the lack of aggression. Sure, they play their instruments well and the songs sound great, but you look at them and wonder if they're still as into it as they used to be.

    Am I Evil? wrote: »
    I agree, I miss the aggression the swearing used to bring during a metallica show. All I know is that Lars still curses like a ****er. Was watching one metontour vid where Lars was asking James to call everyone mother ****ers when he got on stage and he refused to do it.. this was jokingly asking though.

    I saw an interview with james once where he was asked about this and said its mainly because of him having kids now.

    Still does it the odd time, I'm just glad hes started doing the growling on harvester again :pac:

    And they do tour more than ever now basically so I think its safe to say they are stil very much into it,
    Just because they don't act aggressive doesnt change that


    Sure it's James and an age thing, probably having kids who are of an age were they're aware of what he's saying makes him not want to swear, i know for sure there's some TOTALLY fcuked up shiit that i did in my late teens to mid twenties that i'd never dream of doing now. Age does changeya, no matter what people say.

    The most i've ever physically seen James swear was at Donington in '95, seemed like every other word in his mid song chat was Fcuk, if i recall correctly he even came on stage and shouted "Fcuk yeah motherfcuker motherfcuker"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,959 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla



    On a happier topic though, what do you think will happen next year, will Metallica perform the entire Black album live? Will the 30th Anniversary concerts take on a life of their own?

    I really dunno what's gonna be happening with this 'supposed' 30th Aniversary tour, was it only 12 cities during the whole of 2011?? That seems to have changed already with the announcement of the Brazil Rock in Rio, i really can't see them going to South America and only playing the 1 date.

    I also doubt that it'd be Black in it's entirety, i've heard stuff like 'Similar to The Wall' thrown about, whatever it is i will not be surprised


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,959 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    Pretty big crowd as well, doesn't seem to have been an awards show performance either, seems more likely it was a concert in their schedule....watch Hetfield at the start of this song ala Kerry King:D


    It was Seatlle, June 23rd 2000

    http://www.metallica.com/timeline.asp?page=tour&id=2246

    Don't think it was a regular gig as the stage set is one i don't recognise at all, and they only played 9 songs

    Enter Sandman
    For Whom the Bell Tolls
    Sad But True
    Fuel
    I Disappear
    King Nothing
    Nothing Else Matters
    One
    Battery


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,382 ✭✭✭Motley Crue


    scudzilla wrote: »
    I also doubt that it'd be Black in it's entirety, i've heard stuff like 'Similar to The Wall' thrown about, whatever it is i will not be surprised

    I'd love to see this guy come back for a little

    080900_pic2.jpg

    From his last gig (bar VH1 Awards) in 2000


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,959 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    I'd love to see this guy come back for a little

    080900_pic2.jpg

    From his last gig (bar VH1 Awards) in 2000

    Jason was one of my fav members of Metallica, he wore his heart on his sleeve and lived for music, he was always the one to actually spend time chatting to the fans, and in the early days of the Meet & Greet's when only 2 members came out you could be guaranteed Jason was one of them.

    Also loved hearing him sing songs like Seek & Destroy.

    No offence to Rob, who is an awesome player, but i'd have loved to have seen Jason come through the St Anger shiit and have been given a lot more writing responsiblity.

    I think James knows now that he treated Jason pretty unfair

    Would drag me balls over a mile of broken glass to see a full gig with Jason again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,382 ✭✭✭Motley Crue


    scudzilla wrote: »
    Would drag me balls over a mile of broken glass to see a full gig with Jason again

    To remind those of us who don't understand why Jason was that popular, here's a little video...this is from 1994/6, and Jason has shown up in Manila to take time out of a busy touring schedule and jam with some local artists for the sake of music in a ****ty dive of a club. The rest of Metallica are probably off at Madonna's house or something.....and Jason's wearing a Meshuggah T Shirt



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭lord lucan


    scudzilla wrote: »
    The most i've ever physically seen James swear was at Donington in '95, seemed like every other word in his mid song chat was Fcuk, if i recall correctly he even came on stage and shouted "Fcuk yeah motherfcuker motherfcuker"

    I PMSL at that,yes i'm a child!:D

    I think there's 2 factors in this. The first is the fact that back then Het was on the gargle all the time and the drink probably spoke for him. That and his 'stage persona',stalking the stage with Explorer nearly at his knees.

    Also,now they all have their kids at a lot of shows. I don't think it was a deliberate decision to cut down on the swearing but probably a subconcious decision.

    Or i'm just reading way too much into how Metallica operate!:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭lord lucan


    Snow White gets her revenge on Kirk!:pac:



    ******With added swearing from Kirk just for Motley Crue*********:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,959 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    lord lucan wrote: »
    I PMSL at that,yes i'm a child!:D

    I think there's 2 factors in this. The first is the fact that back then Het was on the gargle all the time and the drink probably spoke for him. That and his 'stage persona',stalking the stage with Explorer nearly at his knees.

    Also,now they all have their kids at a lot of shows. I don't think it was a deliberate decision to cut down on the swearing but probably a subconcious decision.

    Or i'm just reading way too much into how Metallica operate!:pac:

    i THINK the reason why he opened that set with 'Fcuk yeah Motherfcuker Motherfcuker' was that they had been told not to swear as the gig was being broadcast live on national Radio 1, all other bands had a 15min delay except the headliners, i'm 99% certain that was the reason.

    My funniest ever Metallica moment was at the European MTV awards in Ally Pally, London back in '96.

    I was watching on TV, as were millions of viewers across Europe and it was totally live. During rehearsals they had played King Nothing, the new single, but got totally pissed off with the MTV producers telling them to do this and do that.

    Come show time, known only to the band and a few crew, they played Last Caress/So What live to an audience of Millions.

    I've NEVER seen James pronounce the word fcuk in that song so clearly before or since!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,959 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    lord lucan wrote: »
    Snow White gets her revenge on Kirk!:pac:



    ******With added swearing from Kirk just for Motley Crue*********:D

    Awesome, nice to see Ross Halfin still shootin the guys, love his work


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,382 ✭✭✭Motley Crue


    scudzilla wrote: »

    I remember this, without a shadow of a doubt the best moment ever at the MTV European Music Awards...which are, for the most part, a complete joke of an awards ceremony


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,723 ✭✭✭empirix


    I remember this, without a shadow of a doubt the best moment ever at the MTV European Music Awards...which are, for the most part, a complete joke of an awards ceremony

    While im fond of Metallica, as in regard mtv performances i think the Kraftwerk performance was the most epic ever!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49zXpJu--7I


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    scudzilla wrote: »
    i THINK the reason why he opened that set with 'Fcuk yeah Motherfcuker Motherfcuker' was that they had been told not to swear as the gig was being broadcast live on national Radio 1, all other bands had a 15min delay except the headliners, i'm 99% certain that was the reason.

    My funniest ever Metallica moment was at the European MTV awards in Ally Pally, London back in '96.

    I was watching on TV, as were millions of viewers across Europe and it was totally live. During rehearsals they had played King Nothing, the new single, but got totally pissed off with the MTV producers telling them to do this and do that.

    Come show time, known only to the band and a few crew, they played Last Caress/So What live to an audience of Millions.

    I've NEVER seen James pronounce the word fcuk in that song so clearly before or since!!

    To be fair to James, at least he did warn us about the cursing at Donington in '95. At the start of '2x4' which was early in the set he said something like "I'm going to say motherf*&ker a lot tonight motherf*&kers! Is that ok?".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,959 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    empirix wrote: »
    While im fond of Metallica, as in regard mtv performances i think the Kraftwerk performance was the most epic ever!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49zXpJu--7I

    Hmmmmm, 4 guys playing there organs while wearing colourful gimp suits, i thinks not ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭lord lucan


    Great setlist for the 2nd last show of the tour,can't wait to see what they have in store for tomorrows show,the last of the tour.

    That Was Just Your Life
    Cyanide
    Ride The Lightning
    Through The Never
    Welcome Home (Sanitarium)
    The God That Failed
    My Apocalypse
    Sad But True
    No Leaf Clover
    The Outlaw Torn
    One
    Master Of Puppets
    Dyers Eve
    Nothing Else Matters
    Enter Sandman
    - - - - - - - -
    Stone Cold Crazy
    Phantom Lord
    Seek and Destroy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30 RickBockwinkle


    I just gave "St. Anger" a listen for the first time in ages. And, "Invisible Kid" and "Purify" aside there is some really interesting stuff going on on that album.

    I especially like "My World" and "Shoot Me Again" because they both sound like the band are having actual fun.

    In it's own way it's a very unique album in general, not just for Metallica.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭lord lucan


    Final show of the World Magnetic tour in Melbourne:

    That Was Just Your Life
    Fuel
    Disposable Heroes
    The Thing That Should Not Be
    Fade To Black
    Of Wolf And Man
    Leper Messiah
    Sad But True
    The Unforgiven III
    The Call Of Ktulu
    One
    Master Of Puppets
    Fight Fire With Fire
    Nothing Else Matters
    Enter Sandman
    - - - - - - - -
    Die, Die My Darling
    Trapped Under Ice
    Seek and Destroy



    And some stats:

    Here are some stats.... these 5 shows in Melbourne had over 75,000 fans in attendance. For all the shows in Australia and New Zealand, over 300,000 fans saw their favorite band play. Depending on who you ask, the stats may difffer, but this is what I have: The World Magnetic tour crossed 45 countries, 143 arena shows, 34 festival shows, 29 stadium shows, 4 club/theater shows, 3 tv/radio shows, 2 hall of fame shows, 3790 songs, and not a single setlist was the same.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,959 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    lord lucan wrote: »

    Here are some stats.... these 5 shows in Melbourne had over 75,000 fans in attendance. For all the shows in Australia and New Zealand, over 300,000 fans saw their favorite band play. Depending on who you ask, the stats may difffer, but this is what I have: The World Magnetic tour crossed 45 countries, 143 arena shows, 34 festival shows, 29 stadium shows, 4 club/theater shows, 3 tv/radio shows, 2 hall of fame shows, 3790 songs, and not a single setlist was the same.


    That's what i fcukin love about Live Metallica, i love DC but on there Black Ice tour they hardly changed the set throughout the whole tour


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,519 ✭✭✭ozzy jr


    scudzilla wrote: »
    That's what i fcukin love about Live Metallica, i love DC but on there Black Ice tour they hardly changed the set throughout the whole tour

    Yeah I thought that was terrible on the part of AC/DC, the same set for a couple years, especially when you consider their back catalogue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    must say I'm still listening to death magnetic now... and I love it.

    Judas kiss is the best song they've done in years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,382 ✭✭✭Motley Crue


    lord lucan wrote: »
    The World Magnetic tour crossed 45 countries, 143 arena shows, 34 festival shows, 29 stadium shows, 4 club/theater shows, 3 tv/radio shows, 2 hall of fame shows, 3790 songs, and not a single setlist was the same.

    You really have to take that into consideration. And Trapped Under Ice being aired on the final night of the tour says it all.

    And, more interestingly, you would wonder will Metallica perform some songs live they have never ever performed live before next year (or indeed have only performed once or twice if ever)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,984 ✭✭✭Degag


    Did they play The Frayed Ends of Sanity at any stage i wonder?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,959 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    http://www.setlist.fm/stats/metallica-3bd680c8.html?tour=World+Magnetic

    1 Master Of Puppets Play Video stats 178

    Nothing Else Matters Play Video stats 178

    Enter Sandman Play Video stats 178

    Seek & Destroy Play Video stats 178

    5 Sad But True Play Video stats 177

    One Play Video stats 177

    7 That Was Just Your Life Play Video stats 165

    8 The End Of The Line Play Video stats 144

    9 Broken, Beat And Scarred Play Video stats 142

    10 The Day That Never Comes Play Video stats 136

    11 Cyanide Play Video stats 128

    12 All Nightmare Long Play Video stats 88

    13 Creeping Death Play Video stats 80

    14 For Whom The Bell Tolls Play Video stats 75

    15 Fade To Black Play Video stats 65

    16 Blackened Play Video stats 57

    17 Fight Fire With Fire Play Video stats 53

    Harvester Of Sorrow Play Video stats 53

    19 Welcome Home (Sanitarium) Play Video stats 43

    Ride The Lightning Play Video stats 43

    21 Fuel Play Video stats 41

    22 Battery Play Video stats 40

    23 Stone Cold Crazy (Queen cover) Play Video stats 39

    Wherever I May Roam Play Video stats 39

    25 Hit The Lights Play Video stats 38

    26 Motorbreath Play Video stats 36

    My Apocalypse Play Video stats 36

    28 Whiplash Play Video stats 34

    29 The Four Horsemen Play Video stats 30

    Last Caress (Misfits cover) Play Video stats 30

    The Judas Kiss Play Video stats 30

    32 The Unforgiven Play Video stats 28

    Die, Die My Darling (Misfits cover) Play Video stats 28

    34 Turn The Page (Bob Seger cover) Play Video stats 27

    35 No Remorse Play Video stats 26

    36 Damage Inc. Play Video stats 24

    37 The Memory Remains Play Video stats 23

    Holier Than Thou Play Video stats 23

    39 Breadfan (Budgie cover) Play Video stats 22

    40 Phantom Lord Play Video stats 20

    41 Dyers Eve Play Video stats 18

    42 Am I Evil? (Diamond Head cover) Play Video stats 17

    Helpless (Diamond Head cover) Play Video stats 17

    44 Of Wolf And Man Play Video stats 16

    Trapped Under Ice Play Video stats 16

    46 ...And Justice for All Play Video stats 14

    47 No Leaf Clover Play Video stats 13

    Disposable Heroes Play Video stats 13

    49 Through The Never Play Video stats 12

    Leper Messiah Play Video stats 12

    51 Blitzkrieg (Blitzkrieg cover) Play Video stats 11

    52 The Shortest Straw Play Video stats 10

    53 The Thing That Should Not Be Play Video stats 9

    54 The Unforgiven III Play Video stats 7

    55 Orion Play Video stats 6

    The Wait (Killing Joke cover) Play Video stats 6

    Too Late, Too Late (Motörhead cover) Play Video stats 6

    58 I Disappear Play Video stats 5

    The Prince (Diamond Head cover) Play Video stats 5

    Killing Time (Sweet Savage cover) Play Video stats 5

    Jump In The Fire Play Video stats 5

    62 Until It Sleeps Play Video stats 4

    63 Overkill (Motörhead cover) Play Video stats 3

    The Outlaw Torn Play Video stats 3

    65 The God That Failed Play Video stats 2

    So What (Anti-Nowhere League cover) Play Video stats 2

    Bleeding Me Play Video stats 2

    68 Hole In The Sky (Black Sabbath cover) Play Video stats 1

    Green Hell (Misfits cover) Play Video stats 1

    King Nothing Play Video stats 1

    The Small Hours (Holocaust cover) Play Video stats 1

    Damage Case (Motörhead cover) Play Video stats 1

    The Ecstasy of Gold (Ennio Morricone cover) Play Video stats 1

    Suicide & Redemption Play Video stats 1

    Frantic Play Video stats 1

    Whiskey In The Jar (Thin Lizzy cover) Play Video stats 1

    The Call of Ktulu Play Video stats 1

    Motorcycle Man (Saxon cover) Play Video stats 1

    Stone Dead Forever (Motörhead cover) Play Video stats 1


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭lord lucan


    Degag wrote: »
    Did they play The Frayed Ends of Sanity at any stage i wonder?

    Nope,a short jam of the intro was the nearest they ever got. Like this:



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,382 ✭✭✭Motley Crue




    Just something I found while on YouTube, kind of forgot that he had been drafted in following James accident. I believe he also replaced James in 1986 after a skateboarding accident...and played onstage with Cliff....but there is no footage of that, that I am aware of, in existence


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,959 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla




    Just something I found while on YouTube, kind of forgot that he had been drafted in following James accident. I believe he also replaced James in 1986 after a skateboarding accident...and played onstage with Cliff....but there is no footage of that, that I am aware of, in existence

    I think Marshall played on Cliff's last tour, in the UK at least. He was a Roadie for the band, but when he covered rhythm after James got burnt i think he was a guitarist with Armored Saint


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 937 ✭✭✭Kevski


    scudzilla wrote: »
    I think Marshall played on Cliff's last tour, in the UK at least. He was a Roadie for the band, but when he covered rhythm after James got burnt i think he was a guitarist with Armored Saint

    He played on the Master of Puppets tour when James broke his arm in a skateboarding accident and then again on the Black Album tour after he got burned. As far as I can remember, he was in Metal Church!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,959 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    Kevski wrote: »
    He played on the Master of Puppets tour when James broke his arm in a skateboarding accident and then again on the Black Album tour after he got burned. As far as I can remember, he was in Metal Church!

    That's the one, i stand corrected, Metal Church


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,959 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    Been some time since i've heard Battery played like this



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,382 ✭✭✭Motley Crue


    Just heard rumours from the MetClub and their insiders tonight that Metallica have already started planning their tour for next year in regards to their anniversary shows, Canada looks to be getting two shows, with one in Quebec at least. Other than that the information is sketchy at best.

    More as it develops. Hopefully it turns out to be true!

    Since the Black album was originally released in September, and Metallica's first gig was in April time I would look towards that kind of time frame to see concerts performed, maybe end of the Summer if we are very lucky. Tickets may go on sale, knowing promoters, around February or March
    Metallica are planning a tour in 2011 which their manager claims will rival Pink Floyd's 1980-1981 'The Wall' tour, it has been revealed.

    Manager Peter Mensch revealed that the band are currently working on ideas for the tour, which will see then play in 10 cities worldwide. No dates have been announced yet.
    Although Mensch did offer fans a clue of what they might expect saying they should hunt down YouTube clips of opera singer Renée Fleming, who appeared on the soundtrack of The Lord Of The Rings singing in the made up language of Sindarin.

    “Between you and me, some of it is recycling stuff that people did 25 years ago but no one's smart enough to know that we recycled it,” the manager said.

    Also, a female tribute band to Metallica announced another UK tour in 2011

    231110_js_misstallica.jpg
    Formed in 2008 by Kaleen Reading and Gina Randazzo, the tribute band have been gathering up fans and even have Metallica themselves as friends on their myspace page. They also have Queen Diamond as friends, which is their other tribute band, to King Diamond. These girls love the metal, yes they do.

    Reading and Randazzo got together after Reading decided she wanted to get some music in her life and posted an ad in a paper called ‘The Incinerator’, asking for a fellow metal-heavy chick rocker. With the later additions of Gigi Gleason, Allie Thrower and Teddi Tarnoff, they were good to go.

    You can catch them on the following UK dates:

    Tue 17th May 2011 - O2 Academy2 Sheffield, Sheffield (£8.00)
    Thu 19th May 2011 - O2 ABC2 Glasgow, Glasgow (£8.00)
    Sun 22nd May 2011 - O2 Academy3 Birmingham,, Birmingham (£8.00)
    Wed 25th May 2011 - O2 Academy2 Bristol, Bristol (£8.00)
    Thu 26th May 2011 - Old Fire Station, Bournemouth, Bournemouth (£8.00)
    Fri 27th May 2011 - O2 Academy2 Islington, London (£8.00)
    Sat 28th May 2011 - O2 Academy2 Oxford, Oxford (£8.00)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,959 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    Just heard rumours from the MetClub and their insiders tonight that Metallica have already started planning their tour for next year in regards to their anniversary shows, Canada looks to be getting two shows, with one in Quebec at least. Other than that the information is sketchy at best.

    More as it develops. Hopefully it turns out to be true!

    Since the Black album was originally released in September, and Metallica's first gig was in April time I would look towards that kind of time frame to see concerts performed, maybe end of the Summer if we are very lucky. Tickets may go on sale, knowing promoters, around February or March





    Sounds about right, first 6 months off, with maybe a bit of studio time thrown in, then a small tour, as Rio De Janeiro already been announced for Sept. Couldn't see them coming out just for the Rio show


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    scudzilla wrote: »
    That's the one, i stand corrected, Metal Church

    You were getting confused with Anthrax I think. Yer man John Bush who sang with them was in Armored Saint


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,656 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    scudzilla wrote: »
    That's what i fcukin love about Live Metallica, i love DC but on there Black Ice tour they hardly changed the set throughout the whole tour

    I don't get this thing with people saying Tallica always change their sets. They play the same relatively smaller pool of songs so if you see like 3 gigs (or just setlists) you're not gonna get much of a surprise. They still rely too much on Sandman/One/Puppets/Nothing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭lord lucan


    Mushy wrote: »
    They still rely too much on Sandman/One/Puppets/Nothing.

    Problem is,for every 5,000 fans who've been to a number of shows and are sick of hearing them songs there's another 5,000 who are at their first Metallica show and would go home disappointed because they didn't hear them.

    It'd be like me finally getting to see Anthrax live and then they don't play 'Caught in a Mosh'. I'd be gutted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,656 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    lord lucan wrote: »
    Problem is,for every 5,000 fans who've been to a number of shows and are sick of hearing them songs there's another 5,000 who are at their first Metallica show and would go home disappointed because they didn't hear them.

    It'd be like me finally getting to see Anthrax live and then they don't play 'Caught in a Mosh'. I'd be gutted.

    Yeah know that point alright. At least time in Marlay they didn't put them all in the one block together, think that was only surprise for me.

    You'd wonder do they like playing those songs every night though, or would they prefer an album track or two instead. Not that they'd declare things into the public.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭lord lucan


    Mushy wrote: »
    Yeah know that point alright. At least time in Marlay they didn't put them all in the one block together, think that was only surprise for me.

    You'd wonder do they like playing those songs every night though, or would they prefer an album track or two instead. Not that they'd declare things into the public.

    I actually reckon they do like playing them. I usually go for a slash when NEM comes on and get back in time for Sandman and every venue i've been too has seen the loudest roar of the night when the intro to Sandman is played.

    While the hardcore fans would shoot their load if they played 'Frayed ends of Sanity' most of the crowd would probably go for a pint or a smoke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,959 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    What are all your Favourite/Worst Metallica shows you've been to and why??

    My fav's are

    1. 100 Club, Oxford Street, London, August '87

    A warm up show for Donington, was so fcukin hot in there, found out about it the day before and went down on the hope of getting a ticket, queued outside from 6am, fcukin awesome. Was in the pit at front and at one point Scotty Ian (Anthrax) went flying over me head :D

    Some video here, pretty poor quality but it ws fcukin nuts



    2. G-Mex, Manchester on The Black Tour

    They were just on fire, opened up with 'Of Wolf and Man' which was a rarity but fcukin amazing

    3. Download, Second stage, 2003

    Wasn't going to that years Download but found out 3 days before they'd be playing a surprise gig, Left home in Wales at 11am, got there at 1.30, straight to second stage, 2ft from front, was just awesome seeing them up close after all the problems and doubts that i'd ever see them live again.
    Evanescene, who were playing on the main stage at the time must have played to around 10,000 as everybody else was tryin to cram into the tent

    This is the only video of that gig, the opener Blackened




    The worst


    1. Dynamo Festival, Holland 1999

    The whole weekend was awesome butthey just didn't do it for me, seemed like they were just going through the motions and were content with picking up the rumoured $250,000 they got for appearing.


    2. Pukkelpop, Belgium 1997

    Again, they just seemed to be going through the motions, seemed only about 20% of the crowd were arsed with them. Awesome festival again though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,476 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    Mushy wrote: »
    I don't get this thing with people saying Tallica always change their sets. They play the same relatively smaller pool of songs so if you see like 3 gigs (or just setlists) you're not gonna get much of a surprise. They still rely too much on Sandman/One/Puppets/Nothing.

    Considering the songs mentioned, Metallica not playing those would be a huge disappointment to a lot of fans. Those songs are almost compulsory. Not saying that not playing them would be really bad because there are lot of songs that metallica can replace them with that are just as good, but those songs are their most prized songs.

    But saying that, ignoring the songs that are played regularly, they do tend to change their setlist. I mean Marley 2009 was different to Marley 2008 and I believe Marley 2006 was different also, but I wasn't at the 2006 gig I only heard it from my friends.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,656 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    Riddle101 wrote: »
    But saying that, ignoring the songs that are played regularly, they do tend to change their setlist. I mean Marley 2009 was different to Marley 2008 and I believe Marley 2006 was different also, but I wasn't at the 2006 gig I only heard it from my friends.

    Straight off the top of my head, I think RDS 06 was almost a combo of 03 and 04, bar playing Puppets in full. I skipped Marlay 08 cos saw them in Holland earlier in year, so guessed would be very similar....think I turned out to be right.

    I think a band of that size could easily learn a higher number of songs to use in rotation on a tour. Thats not meant in a belittling way either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,382 ✭✭✭Motley Crue


    I think my favourite show was in Dublin in 2006, because they played the entire Master of Puppets and because Jerry Cantrel sang 'Nothing Else Matters' and they also played 'God That Failed' which was excellent. Totally on form. I loved that show. Alice In Chains and Stone Sour in support too.

    Also liked seeing them indoors, in Sheffield, travelling half way across the UK to see them, and seeing them do a lot from Death Magnetic - more than they did in Dublin 2009, and in Sheffield they had better support overall for me (Machine Head and The Sword)

    My worst, well, I haven't been to a bad Metallica gig - but 2004 doesn't stand out for me at all (again in Dublin), don't know why, maybe because I'd seen them in 2003 and it was just over a year later and there wasn't any massive change in their set....and the support act, Slipknot, were more exciting in 45 minutes than Metallica were on the day (for me personally)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,382 ✭✭✭Motley Crue


    Mushy wrote: »
    They still rely too much on Sandman/One/Puppets/Nothing.

    To be fair, I wouldn't mind seeing a show where they didn't play those tracks, but it would have to be a really small exclusive club show or something in a basement somewhere


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 937 ✭✭✭Kevski


    To be fair, I wouldn't mind seeing a show where they didn't play those tracks, but it would have to be a really small exclusive club show or something in a basement somewhere

    Saw them in London in 2008 when they didn't play Sandman or NEM. It left them with space to add in some rarities like Jump In The Fire, Of Wolf And Man, Frantic and The Thing That Should Not Be which were all pretty awesome :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,382 ✭✭✭Motley Crue


    Kevski wrote: »
    Saw them in London in 2008 when they didn't play Sandman or NEM. It left them with space to add in some rarities like Jump In The Fire, Of Wolf And Man, Frantic and The Thing That Should Not Be which were all pretty awesome :D

    That's great, I mean if you have seen the band more than twice, that is what you start hoping for. I have seen them five times (so far) and I've yet to be disappointed by their set and I've yet to see the same set twice. In fact, there are songs I've heard once (God That Failed in 2006, The Wait in 2009) that either have rarely, if ever, been played since and songs I can relate to that specific set

    I've seen Machine Head 5 times and their set list has never been as vibrant for some reason - even though it's changed

    But I'd love to see a small club show, with about 1,000 people, that would be the kind of gig that would be phenomenal - even more so than Metallica already are


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 Lamb_of_God


    nedtheshed wrote: »
    Oh FFS.

    There is more music out there than fcukin Metallica.

    Mods,would it be possible to have a Metallica super thread where everything can be stored.Its a near weekly thing at this stage that some inane thread is started about them,enough is enough surely.

    Here ****in Here!!:confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 Lamb_of_God


    I think my favourite show was in Dublin in 2006, because they played the entire Master of Puppets and because Jerry Cantrel sang 'Nothing Else Matters' and they also played 'God That Failed' which was excellent. Totally on form. I loved that show. Alice In Chains and Stone Sour in support too.

    Also liked seeing them indoors, in Sheffield, travelling half way across the UK to see them, and seeing them do a lot from Death Magnetic - more than they did in Dublin 2009, and in Sheffield they had better support overall for me (Machine Head and The Sword)

    My worst, well, I haven't been to a bad Metallica gig - but 2004 doesn't stand out for me at all (again in Dublin), don't know why, maybe because I'd seen them in 2003 and it was just over a year later and there wasn't any massive change in their set....and the support act, Slipknot, were more exciting in 45 minutes than Metallica were on the day (for me personally)

    Dublin 2006, Fcukin sweet gig, Pity Korn dropped tho!! Stone sour kicked ass!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,065 ✭✭✭✭Malice


    Here ****in Here!!:confused:
    Is there a reason why you quoted a post from the beginning of this thread? Is it suddenly somehow of relevance over six months later?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,789 ✭✭✭slavetothegrind


    just finished mick walls metallica biography, was a good read from the perspective of a man who knew them to a degree.
    Was a bit short on dealing with jason newstead at all, was like the author had developed the same disdain towards him that the band had.

    would recommend it to any fan though, very easy reading unlike another book i got years ago that was insanely detailed about every release they ever had catalog numbers etc.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 Lamb_of_God


    Malice_ wrote: »
    Is there a reason why you quoted a post from the beginning of this thread? Is it suddenly somehow of relevance over six months later?

    Knitpicker!


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