volcanic ash from Iceland heading towards europe with airports expected to be closed

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Deleted User wrote: »

They are not the same flights one was an official KLM test flight the one you linked to was a scheduled flight, by a different airline!.

It was a scheduled flight that was intentionally cleared to take off despite the recommended postponement of flights, the only one.. and it ran into difficulties

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My name is URL wrote: »

It was a scheduled flight that was intentionally cleared to take off despite the recommended postponement of flights, the only one.. and it ran into difficulties

Best follow the recommendations so!

Mr Benevolent

My name is URL wrote: »

It was a scheduled flight that was intentionally cleared to take off despite the recommended postponement of flights, the only one.. and it ran into difficulties

They should've know that would've happened. The FMS would've told them they were getting into trouble long before it became a low fuel situation.

T17cH

The live webcams are showing a lot of lightning and frequent orange flashes looks pretty cool i wonder is this a sign its getting more violent iv been watching them over the last 2 days and havent noticed any lightning untill now. http://eldgos.mila.is/eyjafjallajokull-fra-fimmvorduhalsi/

Mr Benevolent

T17cH wrote: »

The live webcams are showing a lot of lightning and frequent orange flashes looks pretty cool i wonder is this a sign its getting more violent iv been watching them over the last 2 days and havent noticed any lightning untill now. http://eldgos.mila.is/eyjafjallajokull-fra-fimmvorduhalsi/

The orange flashes are probably lightning as well. Seriously impressive stuff. Apparently the intervals between strikes were one every twelve minutes a few hours ago, Down to one every 3-4 seconds now. Probably indicates an increase of volcanic activity.

Dean820

Dean820 wrote: »

Sure it could be worse.

Quite frankly, I 'd rather the planes be grounded than falling to the ground!

Yakult

Its a rare sight to see not one vapur streams in a clear blue sky

JONJO THE MISER

Anyone watching the ash fall from the sky now, Jayus its like snow:eek:

North_West_Art

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Anyone watching the ash fall from the sky now, Jayus its like snow:eek:

no ash falling yet in mid Donegal... wheres your location?

FunkZ

Now that I have my way home sorted I hope this lasts for weeks! /bitter arsehole

leincar

I got stuck in Atlanta on Thursday. The plane took off on Friday. I fell asleep on the plane and woke up as we decended back in to Atlanta. We got turned back after three hours. Now I'm stuck in Madrid. I have to be in Cape Town on Thursday, rumours are going around that Madrid airport will close this afternoon so I'm going to get the first available flight out of Europe.

okidoki987

Does anybody know oif the post to UK will be effected or does it goes by boat?

A Dub in Glasgo

North_West_Art wrote: »

no ash falling yet in mid Donegal... wheres your location?

Tasmania?

A Dub in Glasgo

okidoki987 wrote: »

Does anybody know oif the post to UK will be effected or does it goes by boat?

http://www.royalmail.com/portal/rm/jump1?catId=400144&mediaId=112300784

LookingFor

Can anyone else confirm that Stena Line sailings between Dublin/Dun Laoighre and Holyhead are sold out up to Wednesday, for foot passengers? I'm on their site, and the only column that shows up for fares is the 'flexi' column, and the first non sold-out entry is on Wednesday. Is that really correct?

I can't get on the Irish Ferries site.

I'm not sure if I'd travel this way but just checking my options...(or trying to...)

A Dub in Glasgo

I would say they are sold out if they give you no option for those dates.

robinph

If you are expecting to go to the UK within the next week, don't bother waiting just book the ferry now. The Dublin-London air route is one of the busiest in the world, after a week of it not operating at all there will be a lot of people looking to get on the boats.

LookingFor

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

I would say they are sold out if they give you no option for those dates.

I think you're right...I checked in another browser and it's the same. I thought another 'non-flexi' column was being hidden in Chrome, but I guess not.

robinph - I have a window where it'd be worth my while going but after that it wouldn't make sense. Past tuesday wouldn't make sense (really past monday). I'll have a look around though. Thanks for the advice!

watna

My boss has just emailed me to ask for a copy of my travel insurance, which I don't have. Work want to consider what I would get from that when seeing that they can do about my leave. I only bought some for the three days I was flying over and then was going to buy some for the days I'm flying back, but obviously can't now. I'm at home with my parents so didn't think insurance was necessary for the whole three weeks I'm here.

This is an absolute nightmare

banshee_bones

There has been no real new update from the airlines, everyone is still sticking on 1pm Tomorrow and my flight is at 4pm.
I am expecting the text from Ryanair any minute now telling me its cancelled. . . If they sent me this text I could get the 17.10 Eurolines from Bristol today, this journey today for some reason has a much shorter stop in Birmingham (130 minutes) the one tomorrow is 3.5 hours!

Wondering should I cut my losses and get the fook outta dodge today or just wait til tomorrow? I would be very sickened and out of pocket if it turns out that my flight does go tomorrow....

LookingFor

Amazing how slow Aer Lingus is to respond to the extension of airspace closures.

I'd expect Ryanair to have been faster wrt tomorrow too...I mean I think it's fairly certain tomorrow will be a no-go. Irish airspace is officially closed til 1pm at the earliest, but the ash ain't going anywhere.

edit - Ryanair actually says on their site they'll release an update at 12pm about flights on Monday PM and Tuesday AM. Expect cancellation.

Figuramatyi

watna wrote: »

My boss has just emailed me to ask for a copy of my travel insurance, which I don't have. Work want to consider what I would get from that when seeing that they can do about my leave. I only bought some for the three days I was flying over and then was going to buy some for the days I'm flying back, but obviously can't now. I'm at home with my parents so didn't think insurance was necessary for the whole three weeks I'm here.

This is an absolute nightmare

I would be in the same shoes, but luckily I have my company laptop with me, and all the work I need to do, i can do from here. So my job is not in danger as of now. My department also has a history of employees working from home, if not for an extended time.
But what can we do? I checked my options, to travel back to Ireland from Hungary would cost me a fortune on multiple trains, ferry, buses etc., that is if it WERE possible at all, which it isn't, since everything is fully booked.
I AM stranded indeed. What a strange feeling

banshee_bones

LookingFor wrote: »

Amazing how slow Aer Lingus is to respond to the extension of airspace closures.

I'd expect Ryanair to have been faster wrt tomorrow too...I mean I think it's fairly certain tomorrow will be a no-go. Irish airspace is officially closed til 1pm at the earliest, but the ash ain't going anywhere.

edit - Ryanair actually says on their site they'll release an update at 12pm about flights on Monday PM and Tuesday AM. Expect cancellation.

Oh I was just on their page and didnt see that. ha ha says my flight is still "confirmed"

Il wait til then, thanks so much!

FunkZ

My flight home from Italy was supposed to be last Thursday. I'M STILL HERE!!!!!

Tomorrow at 10AM I'm getting a bus to Calais in France from Rome. Calais to Paris, Paris to Cherbourg amnd then a seventeen hour ferry to Rosslare... I'll be home around 6 or 7 on Thursday!

Then it will take me three hours or something to get back to Meath!

THIS IS ****ING RIDICULOUS.
I miss my GF, family, my dogs and my mates.
I miss my X Box, my bed and I f**king miss Irish pizza!

When I get home I'm going to get Apache pizza, chippers, Carrolls smokes, I'm going to watch a season of The West Wing. I'm going to get drunk, drink a bottle of Jameson, get rowdy, start fights, piss on the side of the road. I'm gonna bring my guitar down to my mates and have a serious jam. Iàm going to watch a match that ISN'T Inter Milan V Fiorantina. F**k you Jose Mourinho. I can't f**king wait!

On a lighter note, what's the difference between the Iceland volcano and Cheryl Cole?
The Iceland volcano is still blowing ash.

ShoulderChip

meant to be flying to Chicago on Friday with Aer Lingus - how likely is this now?

Figuramatyi

What's an "Irish pizza"?

Shzm

LazyFingers wrote: »

My flight home from Italy was supposed to be last Thursday. I'M STILL HERE!!!!!

Tomorrow at 10AM I'm getting a bus to Calais in France from Rome. Calais to Paris, Paris to Cherbourg amnd then a seventeen hour ferry to Rosslare... I'll be home around 6 or 7 on Thursday!

Then it will take me three hours or something to get back to Meath!

THIS IS ****ING RIDICULOUS.
I miss my GF, family, my dogs and my mates.
I miss my X Box, my bed and I f**king miss Irish pizza!

When I get home I'm going to get Apache pizza, chippers, Carrolls smokes, I'm going to watch a season of The West Wing. I'm going to get drunk, drink a bottle of Jameson, get rowdy, start fights, piss on the side of the road. I'm gonna bring my guitar down to my mates and have a serious jam. Iàm going to watch a match that ISN'T Inter Milan V Fiorantina. F**k you Jose Mourinho. I can't f**king wait!

On a lighter note, what's the difference between the Iceland volcano and Cheryl Cole?
The Iceland volcano is still blowing ash.

You're being punished for having **** taste in pizza.

OutlawPete

brummytom wrote: »

Is there any way they could get the ferry this late?

Whitney Houston played Birmingham on Thursday and had to take the ferry over here then for this weekends gigs.

John Cleese spent a mint on a taxi.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1266607/John-Cleese-takes-3-000-taxi-Whitney-Houston-opts-car-ferry-Britains-flight-ban-hits-stars.html

nachoman

Holy Crap! skynews just showing lighting bolts coming from the ash cloud.:eek:

kelle

watna wrote: »

My boss has just emailed me to ask for a copy of my travel insurance, which I don't have. Work want to consider what I would get from that when seeing that they can do about my leave. I only bought some for the three days I was flying over and then was going to buy some for the days I'm flying back, but obviously can't now. I'm at home with my parents so didn't think insurance was necessary for the whole three weeks I'm here.

This is an absolute nightmare

I am so sorry for your predicament.

I never took out travel insurance when flying out to visit family, maybe I should have but I never considered I might need it.

The chances are that your travel insurance would be worthless anyway due to the "act of God".

My brother has been working in the UK for 2 years and a job vacancy in Ireland came up in his chosen profession for the first time since he moved there, and he has been called for interview Monday week. I hope he can make it, he may have to take the boat - I just hope he gets his chance to be able to move back home where he wants to be!

therecklessone

ShoulderChip wrote: »

meant to be flying to Chicago on Friday with Aer Lingus - how likely is this now?

Not very likely.

ShoulderChip

therecklessone wrote: »

Not very likely.

are you serious?

feck feck

What is the issue if we are flying west?

watna

kelle wrote: »

I am so sorry for your predicament.

I never took out travel insurance when flying out to visit family, maybe I should have but I never considered I might need it.

The chances are that your travel insurance would be worthless anyway due to the "act of God".

Thanks Kelle. I told my boss about the act of god thing and that I probably wouldn't have received anything anyway. I'm sure she'll understand. I work in an insurance company!

I think they'll sort something out for me. Their very good about this kind of thing. I think I'm going to be here for another week - perhaps more.

therecklessone

ShoulderChip wrote: »

are you serious?

feck feck

What is the issue if we are flying west?

The presence of a big lump of ash out to 45W at the moment:

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/aviation/vaac/data/VAG_1271569746.png

gary the great

Ye its all my annual leave being used up thats the most annoying thing...cant even enjoy it.

ShoulderChip

therecklessone wrote: »

The presence of a big lump of ash out to 45W at the moment:

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/aviation/vaac/data/VAG_1271569746.png

Ok I am sorry but I don't understand the fundamentals of this.

If this doesn't happen it would be absolutely huge for me, possibly the worst thing that has ever happened to me, but I wont get into that.

What needs to happen for my flight to run OK?
If the airport is opened up in the mean time would this route be considered more or less at risk than others?

Thanks

A Dub in Glasgo

There was a KLM test flight this morning

Some of the airlines are fuming

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/04/18/340746/german-carriers-lead-backlash-over-volcanic-ash-closures.html

Glico Man

Got back from a college class trip to Manchester yesterday. Had to get the train from Manchester to Swansea and then up to Fishguard to get the ferry to Rosslare and back to Cork from there.

Very last minute and we were very lucky to make it back

therecklessone

ShoulderChip wrote: »

Ok I am sorry but I don't understand the fundamentals of this.

If this doesn't happen it would be absolutely huge for me, possibly the worst thing that has ever happened to me, but I wont get into that.

What needs to happen for my flight to run OK?
If the airport is opened up in the mean time would this route be considered more or less at risk than others?

Thanks

Ideally the wind will shift to a SW direction and start to push the existing crap, plus what is still spewing out) up towards Scandanavia.

Another possibility is that it will rain, and wash much of the crap out of the atmosphere.

A third possibility is that regulatory authorities will start to relax their restrictions on the basis of flight testing being conducted in the next few days.

The 1st and 3rd options are your best bets.

You need the airspace over Ireland, and west of it, to remain relatively clear if you wish to get out.

colly10

I'm supposed to be flying into rome on the 28th, not really sure what to expect with this volcanic ash, anyone have a rough idea of how likely it is for the situation to be sorted by then. Will have to start looking at alternatives soon otherwise

empirix

Due to fly to out to Thailand on wednesday:( isn't nature just awsome, no matter how many gadgets we can come up with, we quite simply will never beat nature, splendid:)

carlop

LazyFingers wrote: »

My flight home from Italy was supposed to be last Thursday. I'M STILL HERE!!!!!

Tomorrow at 10AM I'm getting a bus to Calais in France from Rome. Calais to Paris, Paris to Cherbourg amnd then a seventeen hour ferry to Rosslare... I'll be home around 6 or 7 on Thursday!

Then it will take me three hours or something to get back to Meath!

THIS IS ****ING RIDICULOUS.
I miss my GF, family, my dogs and my mates.
I miss my X Box, my bed and I f**king miss Irish pizza!

When I get home I'm going to get Apache pizza, chippers, Carrolls smokes, I'm going to watch a season of The West Wing. I'm going to get drunk, drink a bottle of Jameson, get rowdy, start fights, piss on the side of the road. I'm gonna bring my guitar down to my mates and have a serious jam. Iàm going to watch a match that ISN'T Inter Milan V Fiorantina. F**k you Jose Mourinho. I can't f**king wait!

On a lighter note, what's the difference between the Iceland volcano and Cheryl Cole?
The Iceland volcano is still blowing ash.

Get thee to the Rome derby this afternoon!

I also don't get why you're going to Calais and then Paris. Paris is south of Calais so surely it would be easier to go there first and I'd have guessed there are plenty of buses that go to Paris from Rome.

Blueboyd

Both KLM and Lufthansa have made test flights. And they say that the engines didn't get any damages of the ashes.

Up here Finnair said that they have not made any tests reguested by EU cos commercial planes do not have any equipment to measure anything.

However the air forces sent two F18 Hornets into the ash cloud and the engines were severely damaged.

So maybe better to be suspicious if airlines start to fly and say it is quite safe to fly into the ash. Remember that they make heavy losses every day. Greed and stupidity can win over reason.

ShoulderChip

therecklessone wrote: »

Ideally the wind will shift to a SW direction and start to push the existing crap, plus what is still spewing out) up towards Scandanavia.

Another possibility is that it will rain, and wash much of the crap out of the atmosphere.

A third possibility is that regulatory authorities will start to relax their restrictions on the basis of flight testing being conducted in the next few days.

The 1st and 3rd options are your best bets.

You need the airspace over Ireland, and west of it, to remain relatively clear if you wish to get out.

Thanks for this

Goog god I can't believe it though, been counting down the days for months now this,

will have to look into insurance, don't know how happy they will be to refund internal american flights hotels etc.

lucernarian

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

There was a KLM test flight this morning

Some of the airlines are fuming

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/04/18/340746/german-carriers-lead-backlash-over-volcanic-ash-closures.html

Yeah, I read the following article about it too. Basically the same as your link really: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSLDE63H07L20100418?type=marketsNews

Who would people trust? The airlines losing millions per day or the coordinated efforts of geologists and meteorologists from several north Atlantic countries???


It is disgusting to see the claims for the rules to be bent once there is no obvious threat in some of the closed down regions. I for one will place my trust in those people who have no vested interest in anything but my safety.

empirix

empirix wrote: »

Due to fly to out to Thailand on wednesday:( isn't nature just awsome, no matter how many gadgets we can come up with, we quite simply will never beat nature, splendid:)

Shltty buzz.... But at least Bangkok is in a good state these days for when ya get there :P

ronano

LazyFingers wrote: »

My flight home from Italy was supposed to be last Thursday. I'M STILL HERE!!!!!

Tomorrow at 10AM I'm getting a bus to Calais in France from Rome. Calais to Paris, Paris to Cherbourg amnd then a seventeen hour ferry to Rosslare... I'll be home around 6 or 7 on Thursday!

Then it will take me three hours or something to get back to Meath!

THIS IS ****ING RIDICULOUS.
I miss my GF, family, my dogs and my mates.
I miss my X Box, my bed and I f**king miss Irish pizza!

When I get home I'm going to get Apache pizza, chippers, Carrolls smokes, I'm going to watch a season of The West Wing. I'm going to get drunk, drink a bottle of Jameson, get rowdy, start fights, piss on the side of the road. I'm gonna bring my guitar down to my mates and have a serious jam. Iàm going to watch a match that ISN'T Inter Milan V Fiorantina. F**k you Jose Mourinho. I can't f**king wait!

On a lighter note, what's the difference between the Iceland volcano and Cheryl Cole?
The Iceland volcano is still blowing ash.

yo bro!

your ferry is 19 hours and you're crazy!

Blueboyd

To_be_confirmed wrote: »

Yeah, I read the following article about it too. Basically the same as your link really: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSLDE63H07L20100418?type=marketsNews

Who would people trust? The airlines losing millions per day or the coordinated efforts of geologists and meteorologists from several north Atlantic countries???


It is disgusting to see the claims for the rules to be bent once there is no obvious threat in some of the closed down regions. I for one will place my trust in those people who have no vested interest in anything but my safety.

Check this out

It is all in Finnish - but look at the first picture of an engine of a Hornet that flew into the cloud. The ash melted inside the engine and started to make layers.

ShoulderChip

will transatlantic flights resume first?

Zombienosh

anyone notice the mad red moon last night? probably related to the ash no?