The Iceland Volcano Thread

vrhunski

where are tremors for Eyjafjallajökull ?

snow ghost

Garseys wrote: »

So if Katla erupts.....we're knackered basically?

It will be the end of civilisation as we know it. :eek: But we should be better prepared for it than most... living for years on end with little glimpse of the Sun has ensured the Irish will thrive in a world of permanent darkness.

darkman2

Pictures from today.





http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Other/Esruption18th1417x1.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Other/Esruption18th1538x1.jpg




Ash spread by Tuesday 6pm

vrhunski

check last tremor..become stronger with each update. next one is in 15.50.

JanuarySnowstor

That ash projection for Tuesday is serious Darkman.
Ireland would be the worst in Europe taking a direct hit.
Even today it's obvious how much ash is in the sky. When last did we have a hazy sky from the North - answer never it's all ash!

Jessibelle

If the second volcano was to blow, aside from the disruptions to air travel etc, would we need to take precautions against sulfur dioxide and/or other chemical poisoning in the air and soils? i caught the tail end of a broadcast on rte about this, but didn't hear enough to know exactly what they were saying?

Trogdor

snow ghost wrote: »

Same as that - maybe the site is getting too many hits and it is overloading it or something.

Sorry bout that, yeah it's not loading for me either..can't find any other cam right now

peasant

kevin12345 wrote: »

i know it's been posted already but it updates every 10 minutes....Katla still getting stronger tremors :rolleyes:

http://hraun.vedur.is/ja/Katla2009/stodvaplott.html

Looking at graphs is all very well ...they only become meaningful when you understand them however.

Without even a legend on that table, I would leave the interpretation to the volcanolgists

flashforward

vrhunski wrote: »

check last tremor..become stronger with each update. next one is in 15.50.

Does anyone know how to read those graphs?
eg. what is the significance of the different coloured lines?

Trogdor

peasant wrote: »

Looking at graphs is all very well ...they only become meaningful when you understand them however.

Without even a legend on that table, I would leave the interpretation to the volcanolgists

Completely agree with that, but it does seem fairly clear from those charts that seismic is increasing somewhat atm

Trogdor

flashforward wrote: »

Does anyone know how to read those graphs?
eg. what is the significance of the different coloured lines?

There's a legend above for the colours, they're different frequencies of tremor in hertz

kevin12345

trogdor wrote: »

Completely agree with that, but it does seem fairly clear from those charts that seismic is increasing somewhat atm

yeah that's the only obvious thing from the graphs

darkman2

JanuarySnowstor wrote: »

That ash projection for Tuesday is serious Darkman.
Ireland would be the worst in Europe taking a direct hit.
Even today it's obvious how much ash is in the sky. When last did we have a hazy sky from the North - answer never it's all ash!

It's only a projection so it has a margin of error. The volcano could, of course, just stop errupting.:rolleyes: If not we are waiting for a significant change in wind direction. But that may not be enough because by Tuesday a good chunk of the Northern Hemisphere looks to be effected by the spread. It may take a few days to clear. There is a slight risk that by as early as Late Monday or Tuesday flights may have to be cancelled in North Eastern parts of Canada and possibly even the North East of the US if the current spread forecasts are correct.

peasant

trogdor wrote: »

Completely agree with that, but it does seem fairly clear from those charts that seismic is increasing somewhat atm

But we have no indication whatsoever if that is at a level that is anything to worry about

flashforward

trogdor wrote: »

There's a legend above for the colours, they're different frequencies of tremor in hertz

Gathered that. But does an increase in 2-4hz have more significance towards a possible eruption than lets say an increase in .5-1hz?

maquiladora

I think the tremors on the graphs you are looking at is related more to the vicinity around Eyjafjallajökull and not Katla. I know Katla is in the title of the url but the graph is from the Eyjafjallajökull section of the site.

Icelandic Met Office have confirmed that tremors are ongoing since around midnight at Eyjafjallajökull and these graphs seem to show that.

Trogdor

peasant wrote: »

But we have no indication whatsoever if that is at a level that is anything to worry about

True, it may not be anywhere near dangerous or even abnormal levels, just out of the last few days, it does seem to be a bit (no idea how much) more agitated. Not giving any any doom predictions from them for sure, i just find them interesting:)

Trogdor

flashforward wrote: »

Gathered that. But does an increase in 2-4hz have more significance towards a possible eruption than lets say an increase in .5-1hz?

That's where i have no idea:o my guess would be that the amplitude is more important than the frequencies though

Trogdor

Here's some much info on the graphs
http://hraun.vedur.is/ja/englishweb/tremor.html
Basically it's pretty unreliable

Rougies

Pic from 17:00 .. still going strong.

kevin12345

Rougies wrote: »

Pic from 17:00 .. still going strong.

Can I have the link to your webcam please

owenc

delw wrote: »

BA sending test flight over Ireland this evening according to sky news

that ba aircraft is going to cardiff only!! england england england!!!:mad::mad:they should go over ni, and scotland.:mad:

DougL

Rougies wrote: »

Pic from 17:00 .. still going strong.

It doesn't look nearly as strong as it did in images from early this morning. I don't know if that is because the wind is stronger, or the eruption is less intense. Either way, it has to be a good thing if the ash plume is not as high.

kevin12345

owenc wrote: »

that ba aircraft is going to cardiff only!! england england england!!!:mad::mad:they should go over ni,wales and scotland.:mad:

cardiff IS in Wales :pac:

Rougies

kevin12345 wrote: »

Can I have the link to your webcam please

http://www.vodafone.is/eldgos/en

They've cut the live feed to anyone outside Iceland, but you can get hourly pics if you follow the link through to Picasa.

Pity, it was definitely the best cam.

owenc

kevin12345 wrote: »

cardiff IS in Wales :pac:

Do you think im stupid, im from the uk i should know about it!:rolleyes:

kevin12345

Rougies wrote: »

http://www.vodafone.is/eldgos/en

They've cut the live feed to anyone outside Iceland, but you can get hourly pics if you follow the link through to Picasa.

Pity, it was definitely the best cam.

Thanks anyways

kevin12345

owenc wrote: »

Do you think im stupid, im from the uk i should know about it!:rolleyes:

No its just you said it's flying to cardiff then you said England england england

owenc

kevin12345 wrote: »

No its just you said it's flying to cardiff then you said England england england

yes they get everything.:rolleyes: Its like in ireland dublin gets everything. now the bbc are saying ba are flying over the atlantic. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8628323.stm and they wont be aloud to fly till thursday

snow ghost

It's early to call but if the End of Days is upon us it's time to make contingency plans... already there are predicted shortages of food and other essentials... get your beer in folks while you still can, Armageddon will be a lot easier after a few whiskeys. :eek::eek::eek:

Rougies

Sagastipean wrote: »

It doesn't look nearly as strong as it did in images from early this morning. I don't know if that is because the wind is stronger, or the eruption is less intense. Either way, it has to be a good thing if the ash plume is not as high.

The wind is definitely stronger now, making it appear less intense. Hard to tell really, but it looks to be about the same volume of ash coming out. Agree on the ash not as high being a good thing.

kleefarr

Not sure if these have been posted before...

www.swisseduc.ch/stromboli/perm/iceland/eyafallajokull_20100416-en.html

www.swisseduc.ch/stromboli/perm/iceland/eyafallajokull_20100417-en.html

Rougies

kleefarr wrote: »

Not sure if these have been posted before...

www.swisseduc.ch/stromboli/perm/iceland/eyafallajokull_20100416-en.html

They have, but there are new ones up there now. Worth a repost too anyway!

Sierra Oscar

Dont want to sound dramatic, but as Im sitting outside here typing away on my laptop tiny dust particles are settling on the screen. Wouldn't notice it otherwise. Its probably just "normal" dust all the same.:)

vrhunski

nice video here now.
http://eldgos.mila.is/eyjafjallajokull-fra-valahnjuk/

kleefarr

Rougies wrote: »

They have, but there are new ones up there now. Worth a repost too anyway!

Some spectacular photos!

snow ghost

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

Dont want to sound dramatic, but as Im sitting outside here typing away on my laptop tiny dust particles are settling on the screen. Wouldn't notice it otherwise. Its probably just "normal" dust all the same.:)

There was loads of dust on the cars around here, that I suspect was from the Volcanic dust cloud. Whilst it is obviously much more intense in iceland, it is still worth noting the damage this ash can do:

"Farmers across the region where the volcano erupted this week under the Eyjafjallajokull glacier have been scrambling to protect their herds from inhaling or ingesting the ash, which can cause internal bleeding, long-term bone damage and teeth loss."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/18/AR2010041801985.html

LookingFor

Seems to be a concerted effort under way by airlines and airports to get restrictions relaxed, ash or no ash. The german and dutch airlines seem to be really pushing...on the other hand, Ryanair sounds very skeptical of their 'tests'. If Ryanair is the one sounding caution about safety, you know something's wrong!

cherryghost

LookingFor wrote: »

Seems to be a concerted effort under way by airlines and airports to get restrictions relaxed, ash or no ash. The german and dutch airlines seem to be really pushing...on the other hand, Ryanair sounds very skeptical of their 'tests'. If Ryanair is the one sounding caution about safety, you know something's wrong!

It's obvious the airlines in question care more about the money than the passengers safety. If even one plane were to fall from the sky, it would be a disaster, then the finger pointing would start.

Deep Easterly

LookingFor wrote: »

Seems to be a concerted effort under way by airlines and airports to get restrictions relaxed, ash or no ash. The german and dutch airlines seem to be really pushing...on the other hand, Ryanair sounds very skeptical of their 'tests'. If Ryanair is the one sounding caution about safety, you know something's wrong!

Yep, beware the reasonings of O'Leary.

snow ghost

LookingFor wrote: »

Seems to be a concerted effort under way by airlines and airports to get restrictions relaxed, ash or no ash. The german and dutch airlines seem to be really pushing...on the other hand, Ryanair sounds very skeptical of their 'tests'. If Ryanair is the one sounding caution about safety, you know something's wrong!

Also it has to be considered that the economic effects that are affecting these other European airlines will create a major opportunity for Ryanair.

Ryanair are probably waiting for some of the other players to go bancrupt so they can aquire their routes, airport spots and aircraft.

kevin12345

LookingFor wrote: »

Seems to be a concerted effort under way by airlines and airports to get restrictions relaxed, ash or no ash. The german and dutch airlines seem to be really pushing...on the other hand, Ryanair sounds very skeptical of their 'tests'. If Ryanair is the one sounding caution about safety, you know something's wrong!

so true :pac:

ragg

Deep Easterly wrote: »

Yep, beware the reasonings of O'Leary.

Ryanair a very profitable company. Other airlines arent so profitbale. O'leary knows that a few airlines could go to the wall the longer they are grounded

billy the squid

anyone got the latest katia data?

M.T. Cranium

Those airships are not looking quite so bad now, huh?

Seriously, I hope this all clears up soon, it's a long drive to South Africa.

ShoulderChip

if flights are allowed to resume again, and its up to the airlines to decide

Do you think the route from Dublin to Chicago would be considered one of the safer or riskier routes?

kevin12345

billy the squid wrote: »

anyone got the latest katia data?

im guessing you meant katla but yeah, here http://hraun.vedur.is/ja/Katla2009/stodvaplott.html
:pac:

Deep Easterly

ragg wrote: »

Ryanair a very profitable company. Other airlines arent so profitbale. O'leary knows that a few airlines could go to the wall the longer they are grounded

Maybe so. Lost all respect for the guy during Lisbon Pt 2. Turncoat, not to mention his totally embarrising debate with Joe Higgins on Primetime.

M.T. Cranium

Listen, if Ireland becomes uninhabitable because of all this, you weather guys can always bunk in with us here at the Cranium Central, let me ask the missus how many we can accommodate ...

... umm, apparently it's one, and I have to move out.

Graces7

M.T. Cranium wrote: »

Listen, if Ireland becomes uninhabitable because of all this, you weather guys can always bunk in with us here at the Cranium Central, let me ask the missus how many we can accommodate ...

... umm, apparently it's one, and I have to move out.

Nice idea; and of course with "family" there...

er... a long journey by sea too...