PFA Player/Young player of the year.

Unearthly

Hart; Ivanovic, Dunne, Vermaelen, Evra; Valencia, Fabregas, Fletcher, Milner; Rooney, Drogba

Spiritoftheseventies

Wasnt 21 the age for Young Playerof the year before.

Spiritoftheseventies

Frisbee wrote: »

A poll for what?

EDIT: SOTS deleted his post

Was going to suggest a poll and then changed my mind. You are unrelenting Frisbee.:rolleyes:

Frisbee

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

Was going to suggest a poll and then changed my mind. You are unrelenting Frisbee.:rolleyes:

But what would the poll have been for?

Unrelenting?

Panthro

Unearthly wrote: »

Hart; Ivanovic, Dunne, Vermaelen, Evra; Valencia, Fabregas, Fletcher, Milner; Rooney, Drogba

and malouda

monkey9

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

Was going to suggest a poll and then changed my mind. You are unrelenting Frisbee.:rolleyes:

Maybe set up a poll to decide if we should have a poll. If it helps, i could set up a poll to see if we should have a poll to see if we should have a poll.

Holsten

Didier Drogba
Cesc Fabregas

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Unearthly wrote: »

Hart; Ivanovic, Dunne, Vermaelen, Evra; Valencia, Fabregas, Fletcher, Milner; Rooney, Drogba

Is that the team of the season?
If so, good choice, Tevez might feel aggrieved, but fcuk him.

flahavaj

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

Was going to suggest a poll and then changed my mind. You are unrelenting Frisbee.:rolleyes:

Not a good idea in all fairness.

Frisbee

Unearthly wrote: »

Hart; Ivanovic, Dunne, Vermaelen, Evra; Valencia, Fabregas, Fletcher, Milner; Rooney, Drogba

If that's the Team of the Season neither Vermaelen nor Fletcher deserve to be there imo.

Unearthly

baz2009 wrote: »

Is that the team of the season?
If so, good choice, Tevez might feel aggrieved, but fcuk him.

Yep that's the team. Quite impressed with it myself to.

Panthro

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

Was going to suggest a poll and then changed my mind. You are unrelenting Frisbee.:rolleyes:

flahavaj wrote: »

Not a good idea in all fairness.

thats just racist man..
id like to suggest Kuszczak and Fabiański as they are both class

Jigga

Unsurprising bias towards United. Fletcher over Lampard and Song FFS!

Royale with Cheese

Fletcher over Lampard is a joke.

The young player of the year award needs to be changed. If you're nominated for the main award then you shouldn't be up for the young player award. Also 24 is a tad old to be winning that award at, should limit it to players who were 21 at the beginning of the season.

Spiritoftheseventies

Originally Posted by baz2009
Is that the team of the season?
If so, good choice, Tevez might feel aggrieved, but fcuk him.

Why do you say that Baz (couldnt find link to your original post)

SDTimeout

How milner was chosen over cesc who's had the season of his life...

parker kent

Jigga wrote: »

Unsurprising bias towards United. Fletcher over Lampard and Song FFS!

So all players in England are biased towards United?! Fletcher deserves to be in there alongside Lampard. Song...no.

Milner is extremely over rated in my opinion. Yeah he has a great engine but his technique and passing ability is very limited. Plus I think the age limit has to be lowered for this award or ban double nominations.

Can't argue with Rooney for the main award though!

SlickRic

a lack of Lampard makes the Team of the Year irrelevant.

Jigga

parker kent wrote: »

Can't argue with Rooney for the main award though!

Well he couldn't win the Young Player of the Year award so if he wins Player of the Year it would be farcical!

Mr Alan

SlickRic wrote: »

a lack of Lampard makes the Team of the Year irrelevant.

x 1,000

flahavaj

Not too many people picked Lampard in their Teams of the Season in the thread we had a couple of weeks back.

Just sayin'.

Mr.Nice Guy

Lampard was poor for much of the start of the season as I recall when he was trying to fit into Ancelotti's new system, and while he deserves credit for his goals they tended to be in spurts. Not surprised they didn't vote for him. Nice to see Fletcher getting a bit of credit from his peers.

OPENROAD

flahavaj wrote: »

Not too many people picked Lampard in their Teams of the Season in the thread we had a couple of weeks back.

Just sayin'.

Plays for the wrong team

OPENROAD

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Lampard was poor for much of the start of the season as I recall when he was trying to fit into Ancelotti's new system, and while he deserves credit for his goals they tended to be in spurts. Not surprised they didn't vote for him. Nice to see Fletcher getting a bit of credit from his peers.

I really can't believe how underarted Lampard is particularly here on boards, he consistently scores season in season out from midfield.

SlickRic

flahavaj wrote: »

Not too many people picked Lampard in their Teams of the Season in the thread we had a couple of weeks back.

Just sayin'.

personally, I've been guilty in the past, especially earlier this season, of what many have been guilty of....taking him for granted.

that is the only reason he hasn't made these teams of the season, as well as the PFA one IMO.

i'd imagine Fletcher got into a few of those teams too? many are blinded by how much he's improved, and forget how good someone like Lampard still is compared to him.

Frisbee

Vermaelen -> A defender who can defend. Roger Johnson maybe.
Fletcher -> Lampard

And then it might be more representative of the team of the season.

Also Milner hasn't played LM this season has he? Surely there is LM's better than him.

SlickRic

Frisbee wrote: »

Also Milner hasn't played LM this season has he? Surely there is LM's better than him.

if Malouda hadn't only started being immense from January/February-ish, he'd have to be considered a shoo-in for that.

another reason why the team is so irrelvant.

flahavaj

SlickRic wrote: »

personally, I've been guilty in the past, especially earlier this season, of what many have been guilty of....taking him for granted.

that is the only reason he hasn't made these teams of the season, as well as the PFA one IMO.

i'd imagine Fletcher got into a few of those teams too? many are blinded by how much he's improved, and forget how good someone like Lampard still is compared to him.

Didn't you pick Tom Huddlestone?;)

Mr.Nice Guy

OPENROAD wrote: »

I really can't believe how underarted Lampard is particularly here on boards, he consistently scores season in season out from midfield.

It's not just about goals though it's about overall contribution and he wasn't always as great as he's been for most of 2010. 4 of his goals were in the hammering of Villa for example.

He's a terrific player but he was out of sorts at times. Obviously the players went for consistency throughout the season and they felt he was lacking in that area. I can understand that.

SlickRic

flahavaj wrote: »

Didn't you pick Tom Huddlestone?;)

i did.

and as i've said, i've underrated Lampard.

and either way, he was well ahead of Fletcher in my pecking order.

and i get things wrong sometimes

flahavaj

SlickRic wrote: »

i did.

and as i've said, i've underrated Lampard.

and either way, he was well ahead of Fletcher im pecking order.

Ah yeah.

Fletcher surprised me too tbh.

I'd have put Song ahead of him too.

Lukker-

No qualms with Fletcher being in the squad, but really however Milner got young player ahead of Fabregas is a shambles. Was Milner up for most overrated player of the season too? Let's just compare the stats of players who are in similiar roles Lampard v Milner.

Lampard Goals: 20
Milner Goals: 7
Lampard Assists: 14
Milner: 12
Lampard Cards: 0 Yellow/ 0 Red
Milnder Cards: 5 Yellow/ 0 Red

I know it's superficial judging him on stats, but that said numbers don't lie. Feltcher's in the team because he keeps the team ticking and organized and is a beast defensively,but what does Milner add?

IMO, it's a shambles in itself that Lampard wasn't even nominated. Same as last season aswell. Do the young player of the year automatically get a spot in the team of the year?

Nalz

Jigga wrote: »

Unsurprising bias towards United. Fletcher over Lampard and Song FFS!

Fletcher was better than Song. You might have a point with Frank

Mr Alan

no lucas either! bleedin joke!

Le King

flahavaj wrote: »

Ah yeah.

Fletcher surprised me too tbh.

I'd have put Song ahead of him too.

For Shame... -1

Fletcher has been class and has certainly merited his place in the team.

SlickRic

Osu wrote: »

Fletcher has been class and has certainly merited his place in the team.

now be honest...

you can't just say 'he's been class'. he undoubtedly has, but he's still nowhere near the quality of Frank.

that's like saying 'Zamora's been class', which he has, and throwing him in the team, but forgetting the likes of Rooney, Drogba, Tevez, who have still been better than him.

PHB

Fletcher dragged United through an awful lot of matches this season. I think he's up there. In terms of the central midfield pairing of two, I'd have him in there frankly. I think thats what most people when they vote would think, two central midfielders, attacking, Fabregas, defensive, hmm, Fletcher.

Frankly, I dont think theres been a better defensive midfielder in the league this year and neither do the players who play in the premiership.

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Good to see Dunne get on the list, well deserved after the season he has had. The rest are fairly expected.

PHB

Also worth noting that while Fabregas didn't win young player of the league, Rooney didn't either. Now its not possible for Rooney not to also be the best young player because he was teh best player, but when people vote, they exclude Rooney from it because he was in contention for the top player award. I'd say the same thing happened with Fabregas, voting him top player and Milner top young player. As such, Milner wins a ****load of votes for people who voted Rooney/Fabregas number one.

Quazzie

Milner 24. Rooney 24, Fabregas 22, Hart 23.

How are these nominated for Young Player of the year. This combined with Giggs get POTY last year just proves that this whole awards is a joke imho.

Max Power1

adrian280582 wrote: »

Rooney and Fabregas

Cant see beyond them two.

+1

Iang87

Unearthly wrote: »

Hart; Ivanovic, Dunne, Vermaelen, Evra; Valencia, Fabregas, Fletcher, Milner; Rooney, Drogba

are they for real genuinely

whatever about the defence but am the lack of malouda and tevez is simply unbelievable. Fletcher and Valencia quick question what did valencia do till january.

Judging by these selections Henry deserves to win a fair play award

noodler

Congratulations to Richard Dunne.

Outstanding season and richly deserved.

Mr Alan

has dunne not been pretty poor the last couple of months?

flahavaj

Mr Alan wrote: »

has dunne not been pretty poor the last couple of months?

I actually think he's massively overrated on this board. He's been decent for Villa, but nothing exceptional. And people forget how many errors he made in his last season for City before they sold him.

noodler

Mr Alan wrote: »

has dunne not been pretty poor the last couple of months?

No?

At the very least you are exaggerating the recent variance around his overall excellent form this season.

We really could have used him this season. Him and the Greek - there'd be no more goals conceded from setplays anyway!

flahavaj wrote: »

I actually think he's massively overrated on this board. He's been decent for Villa, but nothing exceptional. And people forget how many errors he made in his last season for City before they sold him.

Irrelevance number one: PFA awards, I am almost certain, are not voted on by members of boards.ie

Irrelevance number two: The awards are based on this season - his blip in form for City last season is of no consequence.

I am absolutely delighted there is some independent (and non-Irish) acknowledgment of his abilities - I think it really helps combat any arguments that we in Ireland are seeing something that others do not.

Mr Alan

ha true dat. pretty sure he's been more like his mistaken strewn self the last couple of months though.

Frisbee

Mr Alan wrote: »

ha true dat. pretty sure he's been more like his mistaken strewn self the last couple of months though.

I think it was more a case of Villa going through there usual Feb-March blip more than anything.

JPA

Mr Alan wrote: »

ha true dat. pretty sure he's been more like his mistaken strewn self the last couple of months though.

There has been the odd mistake lately compared to his perfect 6 months previous but to say mistaken strewn self is OTT. He does have an Achilles injury too.

Esse85

flahavaj wrote: »

I actually think he's massively overrated on this board. He's been decent for Villa, but nothing exceptional. And people forget how many errors he made in his last season for City before they sold him.

Why cos he hasnt scored a goal from a set piece for ages is that it?

flahavaj

Esse85 wrote: »

Why cos he hasnt scored a goal from a set piece for ages is that it?

What an odd statement.