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What beer are we drinking this week ?
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Had a few Guinness there about 2 weeks ago, and tbh they weren't all that great. Very soft imo, had a yellow head pretty quickly, so had to be drunk fast....Maybe it was just the night in question but I wasn't impressed by it.
Tonight tried Smithwicks Pale Ale in a bottle for the 1st time.
It's ok I suppose, nothing special, but its drinkable and not the worst thing I've ever had. I'd probably try it again, draft preferably though.
Now drinking O'Shea's Traditional Irish Ale. It's got a wonderful caramel flavour and is a delight to drink.....pity I only bought one for tonight!
Him self and his auld lad weren't drinking Guinness (a stout) they were drinking Messr's own Porter (a porter not a stout).
Smithwicks pale ale is piss, don;t bother going back, get a hooker, metalman or o'hara's pale ale.
O'Shea's red is lovely.0 -
Had a few Guinness there about 2 weeks ago, and tbh they weren't all that great. Very soft imo, had a yellow head pretty quickly, so had to be drunk fast....Maybe it was just the night in question but I wasn't impressed by it.
I have a fair few gripes with Messrs and this is one of them, for some reason even the most senior barstaff dump the glass straight on the drip tray and stand there watching it fill with their hands in their pockets, as a result most of the younger staff do the exact same thing. Theres no science behind pouring draught beer but warm glasses and not keeping an eye on what your doing dooms the pint to be terrible. That and the fact their 'craft beer bar' downstairs is never open and smells like urinal cakes.
Anyway, tonight I had started with a Thornbridge Raven to celebrate its success in the World Beer Awards, followed by a Hilden Twisted Hop and Barney's Brew, which were both lovely (especially the Barney's Brew). Love the new labels too...
I finished with a Spaten Oktoberfestbier, the closest I'll get to Oktoberfest this year, and was underwhelmed by its lageryness, but can see the appeal if dressed appropriately with a pretzel in one hand and a litre of it in the other
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pints of porter from messr's maguires in dublin,only 4euro a pint which for city centre is good!had to try it after the auldx fella kept goin on about it,he drinks nothin but guinness but had a few of these when he was up visiting my sister and loved them!very easy to drink,before i knew it i had the first one gone and had to have another!
Had a few Guinness there about 2 weeks ago, and tbh they weren't all that great. Very soft imo, had a yellow head pretty quickly, so had to be drunk fast....Maybe it was just the night in question but I wasn't impressed by it.
Tonight tried Smithwicks Pale Ale in a bottle for the 1st time.
It's ok I suppose, nothing special, but its drinkable and not the worst thing I've ever had. I'd probably try it again, draft preferably though.
Now drinking O'Shea's Traditional Irish Ale. It's got a wonderful caramel flavour and is a delight to drink.....pity I only bought one for tonight!
as seaneh pointed out it wasnt guinness but their own porter i was drinking!only really started drinking stout in the last year and i like trying as many as i can find!i really like o'haras(cant remember which one it was i was drinking) but the one i got used to drinking was plain from porterhouse,its only up thd road so would be where i would drink mostly!0 -
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And the difference between the two?
Does Dark Arts become a Stout when you enter O'Neill's and they serve it Nitro?Historically gravity and location London favoured the used of brown malt with pale and black for porters with some used of amber malt for stout porters. Dublin favoured Amber malt with pale and black malts
As above but also for me, now, it's more about flavour profile, carbonation level and body.
You can make anything "creamy" with nitrogen but stouts still, out of a bottle, just have more body than porters.
Pour a bottle of guinness or belfast black or St. Peters stout or hookborton double and a bottle of say, dark arts or Fullers london porter or Sierra Nevada porter, anchor porter or odell cutthroat and you will get the picture.
The likes of say a guinness will be almost pitch black and will have more roasted flavours, maybe coffee and dark chocolates and will generally be a lot fuller boddied.
Porters will be more caramelly and biscuity, the colour will have a lot more light penetration and be more dark brown/ruby red through out and it will be a lot less bodied (waterier isn't exactly accurate).
Porters tend to have a higher carbonation level too, with a lot of modern porters having what's described as a "prickly" mouth feel by a lot of people.
I know historically the difference was just that stouts were "stout porters" ie, higher gravit, but these days they have evolved into two different styles.
If you wanted to get technical, they are all just dark ales really.
And saying "stouts and porters are the same" is pretty much saying "stouts and pale ales are the same thing".
The only difference between a pale ale and a stout is the malts and hops used.
Which also tends to be the difference between a stout and a porter 0 -
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If you wanted to get technical, they are all just dark ales really.
And saying "stouts and porters are the same" is pretty much saying "stouts and pale ales are the same thing".
The only difference between a pale ale and a stout is the malts and hops used.
Which also tends to be the difference between a stout and a porter
Not dark ale, stouts and porters where always beer. But the modern definition is really dependent on the brewerPour a bottle of guinness or belfast black or St. Peters stout or hookborton double and a bottle of say, dark arts or Fullers london porter or Sierra Nevada porter, anchor porter or odell cutthroat and you will get the picture.
All of those example listed except fuller lobndon porter (as it a historical roots to the early 20th for that recipe) are purely derived from what the brewers consider a stout or porter to be and yes that includes Guinness as that really a product of the 1970'sThe only difference between a pale ale and a stout is the malts and hops used.
But again it comes back to a name, there was and is still one brewed, a pale stout when stout really just means bigger
The beer historian Martin cornell did a bit of research into the a few years back
http://zythophile.wordpress.com/2009/03/19/so-what-is-the-difference-between-porter-and-stout/
“One of the top 10 questions people who end up at this site put into search engines such as Google is a query about how to distinguish between porter and stout, something I’ve not actually tackled head-on yet. So – what difference is there between the two beers?
Er …
None.”
Not now, anyway, not in any meaningful way.”
And one of his conclusions if there is any really difference
“I suspect that when a brewer brews something today he or she calls “stout” this is simply meant to mean that it will be a dark beer, while if it is named “porter”, the beer is very probably meant to be making a nod at an idea of authenticity”0 -
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Drinking some of the blue moon tonight from Lidl. quite refreshing although the orange does get a bit tedious after a few.
http://www.lidl.ie/cps/rde/xchg/SID-14EAA2D7-78B80F80/lidl_ri_ie/hs.xsl/4182_24973.htm
cant seem to find either on ratebeer or beer advocate. anyone know why? seems to have all the others.
http://www.ratebeer.com/findbeer.asp0 -
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Dont see why they wouldnt be available in Ireland, I bought them all off a supermarket shelf in NZ. Should just be a matter of someone bothering to import them.
Now onto an Anderson Valley Hop Ottin' IPA
Remind me to buy some lager or hefe or something next time
Let us know how they taste.
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Im not in Ireland Seaneh, sorry mate. Just had them both, they were nice but Ive had better, my top two in IPA are Firestone Walker Union Jack IPA and Lagunitas A Little Sumpin’ Sumpin’ Ale. If you prefer them super hopped you'll like the Deschutes and New Belgium better, I prefer the ones with more caramel character myself.
It's not specifically either of those two beers I'd been excited about, althout I do like them a lot, but the breweries other beers. I'd love to be able to get a few bottles of stuff like Black Butte Porter, Mirror Pond Pale Ale, Obsidian Stout, Red Chair or even the special brews like The Abyss, Black Butte Aniversery of The Dissident by Deschutes. I drank in their pub in Portland and their brewery in Bend a few years ago and was totally blown away.
Ranger is just a nice hot day beer and a quite like fat tire too so would be nice to get some new belgium beers.
If you are more into the malty type of pale ales try Mirror Pond by Deschutes, lovely biscuity malts and not super hoppy, and to 5% it's fairly sessionable.I'm pretty sure I've seen some of these in Redmonds of Ranelagh.
Alas, I have phoned every good offie in Ireland and nobody can get their hands on any of the Deschutes, I even phoned the brewery to ask for a European distributor and they told me that they don't presently and will nto in the next atleast 2 years have a European distributor as they are focused on getting their beers to very US state first, it's currently near impossible get any of their beers on the East coast of the US, never mind Europe, I have a friend form Portland who's living in Virginia and he drives to .
If Reeb can get them in NZ it's because a someone bought from a third party.
That's their current distribution map, this time last year their distribution was about half as many states so they are expanding quickly, hopefully it won't be long before someone in Europe starts importing their beers.0 -
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