Suckler Breeding

scuggels

Does anyone know where to find a breakdown of breeding ie how to achieve 7/8 bred stock and 3/4 bred in a herd? from Pruebred down would be helpful to me as starting out
cheers

wiggy123

what u mean
sure if u go simmental...say a simmental heifer calf from a fr cow would be what 1/4 bred,
then breed it to a PB Sim bull--it be 1/2 bred,
then with the resulant calf go again to PB Sim Bull,its calf would be 3/4 bred,
and then finally go to a PB Sim bull...u'd shoudl have a pb....NO? maybe i'm wrong...
So thats 4 generations from the first calve to PB status

adne

I thought Pure Breed meant 100% breed from the one breed... ie. no cross to another breed even if back further than 4 generations

reilig

adne wrote: »

I thought Pure Breed meant 100% breed from the one breed... ie. no cross to another breed even if back further than 4 generations

That was my understanding of it too

wiggy123

it is that...but then again how did all the breeds come about...
through cross-breeding over 100's of years!
was just explaining about the breeding to poster that asked about it...
maybe i was totally wrong

pakalasa

I've heard the term 'full bred' used a lot on this forum....I was wondering what people meant.
To me, 'full bred' means both Cow and Bull are either registered in the herd book or all lines go back to animals in the herd book.

Otherwise each breeding for the same breed of bull will be-
First - 1/2 bred
second - 3/4 bred
third - 7/8 bred
fourth - 15/16 bred
fifth - 31/32 etc etc

So strictly you never get to full bred as the original line of the first cow (say friesian) will always be there.

adne

wiggy123 wrote: »

it is that...but then again how did all the breeds come about...

How do Maoiri, Aborigine people exist :D

Indubitable

From my understanding a full-blood is an animal where every ancestor is registered in the breed's herd-book and show all the breed characteristics.

A purebred is an animal that is constantly crossed with full-blood animals of a certain breed type until a percentage of the breed is achieved.

eg. 50% LIM and 50% FR heifer ai'ed to a fullblood LIM
results in: 75% LIM 25% FR, - repeated with another fullblood
results in a 87.5% LIM calf

For the majority of breed associations the percentage required to be considered pure bred is around 87.5%

Horace

wiggy123 wrote: »

what u mean
sure if u go simmental...say a simmental heifer calf from a fr cow would be what 1/4 bred,
then breed it to a PB Sim bull--it be 1/2 bred,
then with the resulant calf go again to PB Sim Bull,its calf would be 3/4 bred,
and then finally go to a PB Sim bull...u'd shoudl have a pb....NO? maybe i'm wrong...
So thats 4 generations from the first calve to PB status

surly this animal is a 1/2 bred sm/fr or fr/sm cross if its only a 1/4 bred animal what other breeds are involved

snowman707

Horace wrote: »

surly this animal is a 1/2 bred sm/fr or fr/sm cross if its only a 1/4 bred animal what other breeds are involved

from a PB bull as in the example it is a 1/2 bred not a 1/4 as stated

Min

I go with the half bred too.