Atletico Madrid v Liverpool 8:05 Inter-Railing around Europe Match Thread

Jazzy

Jazzy wrote: »

with ntlbell to thank the post

boom!

Someone posted before that Boggles and Ntlbell were the same person.

ntlbell

rarnes1 wrote: »

Someone posted before that Boggles and Ntlbell were the same person.

I'm sure a mod can tell you we're not.

Jazzy

ntlbell wrote: »

I'm sure a mod can tell you we're not.

we gonna see some old school tag team action tonight? its just not the same with the_muppet

ntlbell

Jazzy wrote: »

with ntlbell to thank the post

boom!

I knew a mystic meg like you, always predicting things after they happened.

how do you do it!!

LuckyLloyd

All four teams that had to travel overland had the worst of it performance wise. Now of course, home advantage would be huge at this stage of the competition under normal circumstances. But I definitely think it was a worthy factor in all four games.

monkey9

Trilla wrote: »

LUCAS IS NOT A GOOD FOOTBALLER

That's just not true!! it really isn't!

Boggles

rarnes1 wrote: »

Someone posted before that Boggles and Ntlbell were the same person.

I heard Boggles, NtlBell and Mr. Alan were all the same person.

And Jazzy is supposed to be all 3.

Very confusing.

Spiritoftheseventies

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

We were great against West Ham, Benfica, Portsmouth, Lille...

It was a tough away fixture after preparations that were less than ideal (to say the least), and the team still had chances to get an away goal.

In all honesty West ham put up no resistance against us. Most of us called tonights results as we saw it. We were clumsy, had very little movement. Apart from one or two chances we were very disappointing. Yeah i get with what you say with Lucas he can play box to box but saw very little of that tonight.

ntlbell

Jazzy wrote: »

we gonna see some old school tag team action tonight? its just not the same with the_muppet

I met you one night in a library in phisboro, you asked me something similar!!

monkey9

murpho999 wrote: »

Lucas must have an iPhone in the dressing room. 'His' twitter is updated

LucasLeiva21

That was the last straw. Dirk pointing and repeating 'hes a fairy, hes a fairy without the wings'. I lunged for him. Sammy Lee held me back.

Dirks in the changing rooms blaming me for the loss. I 'shouldve been back marking Forlan'. Im a pacifist but this is a real test for me.

Really disappointed. We wanted that away goal. Looking forward and seeing Ngog, Nabil, Babel and Dirk makes Lucas want to return to Gremio

Sure did you not watch the match tonight? The phone fell from Lucas's shorts pocket!

Nalz

monkey9 wrote: »

That's just not true!! it really isn't!

Ok its my opinion and I probably shouldnt have typed it. Probably best ignore it to be honest. This tie aint over Liverpool will turn this around I'd say.

Boggles

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

We were great against West Ham, Benfica, Portsmouth, Lille...

You were great against a shocking West Ham and a relegated can't pay the pies Pompey. Hardly fantasic examples.

Liverpool were also poor against Benfica and Lille.

Headshot

time to get the popcorn me thinks

Boggles

Boggles wrote: »

And Jazzy is supposed to be all 3.

:pac:

Mr Noggles

Spiritoftheseventies

ntlbell wrote: »

I met you one night in a library in phisboro, you asked me something similar!!

this just got interesting

LuckyLloyd

Headshot wrote: »

time to get the popcorn me thinks

Won't be time on my account. There will be more to say next Thursday.

ntlbell

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

We were great against West Ham, Benfica, Portsmouth, Lille...

It was a tough away fixture after preparations that were less than ideal (to say the least), and the team still had chances to get an away goal.

west ham and ports?

that's really clutching at straws

Headshot

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Won't be time on my account. There will be more to say next Thursday.

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ntlbell

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

this just got interesting

The funny thing is, it's a true story.

Spiritoftheseventies

LL, We were good against Benifica will give you that. But too many times this season we have struggled.

Boggles

ntlbell wrote: »

The funny thing is, it's a true story.

Bullplop!!

What was Jazzy doing in a library?, I know for a fact he can't read.

The Recliner

1-0 away from home with far from ideal preperation

Hardly a disaster, I am sure we will turn it around at Anfield, they are as bad as us away from home after all

ntlbell

Boggles wrote: »

Bullplop!!

What was Jazzy doing in a library?, I know for a fact he can't read.

Actually, the library part may not be true.

monkey9

Trilla wrote: »

Ok its my opinion and I probably shouldnt have typed it. Probably best ignore it to be honest. This tie aint over Liverpool will turn this around I'd say.

No man, don't get me wrong. You're well entitled to it and i'm not having a go as such. I know you're not one really to go on wumming or anything. I just don't agree at all with your point.

Lucas was quiet tonight. So was the team. I just think, imo, Lucas is such a better footballer than people give him credit for!!

In time, i feel he will be quality. Maybe not a world beater. But he's not the donkey people make him out to be!

kingshankly

I can't remember a shot on target tonight, can't see where the goals are going to come from next week

Spiritoftheseventies

monkey9 wrote: »

No man, don't get me wrong. You're well entitled to it and i'm not having a go as such. I know you're not one really to go on wumming or anything. I just don't agree at all with your point.

Lucas was quiet tonight. So was the team. I just think, imo, Lucas is such a better footballer than people give him credit for!!

In time, i feel he will be quality. Maybe not a world beater. But he's not the donkey people make him out to be!

The question is Monkey is he just doesnt offer us enough going forward. yeah He got a good goal a few weeks ago but in a game where we need to win games he tends to be a bit ineffective. But agree he is very good at breaking up the play.

mayordenis

kingshankly wrote: »

I can't remember a shot on target tonight, can't see where the goals are going to come from next week

we'll score 3 next week I'd say maybe 4.

K-9

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

The question is Monkey is he just doesnt offer us enough going forward. yeah He got a good goal a few weeks ago but in a game where we need to win games he tends to be a bit ineffective. But agree he is very good at breaking up the play.

He played the through ball for the Benny "goal".

kingshankly

mayordenis wrote: »

we'll score 3 next week I'd say maybe 4.

Hopefully I'll be there myself might actually bring the boots might get a game;)

Mr Alan

K-9 wrote: »

He played the through ball for the Benny "goal".

And the fantastic pass for Gerrards great chance.

Spiritoftheseventies

Mr Alan wrote: »

And the fantastic pass for Gerrards great chance.

Okay two chances. But is he as effective as Aqua. From what I have read Aqua is being frozen out over this alleged "phantom" ankle injury.
He has played two very good games for us when he has started but it seems Rafa has decided he will only play Aqua if he has to.

Spiritoftheseventies

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

this alleged "phantom" ankle injury.

He's hardly injured if he's a sub? Where you read this?

ShamoBuc

kingshankly wrote: »

I can't remember a shot on target tonight, can't see where the goals are going to come from next week

The disallowed goal?:)

K-9

Mr Alan wrote: »

And the fantastic pass for Gerrards great chance.

If it was a Gerrard through ball and a Lucas miss, boy, would we hear about it.

Spiritoftheseventies

rarnes1 wrote: »

He's hardly injured if he's a sub? Where you read this?

on another pool forum. Would make sense that if Aqua lied about his ankle Rafa might blank him.

I can see us scoring next week alright.

If they score we are in trouble though especially without Torres.

An early goal though and the atmosphere will be electric

Boskowski

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

All four teams that had to travel overland had the worst of it performance wise. Now of course, home advantage would be huge at this stage of the competition under normal circumstances. But I definitely think it was a worthy factor in all four games.

While that may be true I also think the visiting teams made a meal of it. Ffs just allow an extra day, get the whole journey over with in one go and that's that. If you have two full days before the match day to recover that surely should be enough. after all were talking about pampered, massaged, dieted and physioed soccer professionals here.

Lyon for example took two days for a 360 miles journey which is an 8 hour bus trip on the continent at most. That's just ridiculous.

Spiritoftheseventies

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

on another pool forum. Would make sense that if Aqua lied about his ankle Rafa might blank him.

Sounds far-fetched tbh.

Ush1

Thought Atletico played some lovely stuff in parts, especially in midfield.

But I'd fancy Liverpool to certainly score at Anfield where the tempo would be higher and crowd will be willing them on.

Jazzy

????????????????? ive never met ntlbell... i dont frequent that much bridges

Spiritoftheseventies

Jazzy wrote: »

????????????????? ive never met ntlbell... i dont frequent that much many bridges

fyp

SlickRic

tempo not high enough.

we let them play far too much without enough pressure on the ball.

we did well to get out of that 1-0; and we could've got something on another day.

i'm reasonably confident for Anfield, but i'm very nervous about the possibility of winning 2-1.

Spiritoftheseventies

rarnes1 wrote: »

Sounds far-fetched tbh.

It was a fan on the forum who brought it up althought Rafa did bring up the fact they had been having problems all season with one player. Its clear that he is not first choice which is a shame. Dont think Rafa is even talking about getting Aqua right for games any more so he seems be out of the picture as such.

SlickRic

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

Dont think Rafa is even talking about getting Aqua right for games any more so he seems be out of the picture as such.

because he is obsessed with the formation; all of Aquilani, Gerrard, Masch and Lucas don't fit.

and Rafa will not mess with a formula he trusts while we're struggling for the most part; i.e. Lucas and Masch sitting with Gerrard behind the front man.

Spiritoftheseventies

SlickRic wrote: »

because he is obsessed with the formation; all of Aquilani, Gerrard, Masch and Lucas don't fit.

and Rafa will not mess with a formula he trusts while we're struggling for the most part; i.e. Lucas and Masch sitting with Gerrard behind the front man.

can we clear this up. Lucas plays box to box but was he playing the holding role tonight. this seems to be the definition below
A Holding midfielder is a player whose position of play is midway between the attacking strikers and the defenders. Their main functions are to dispossess (tackle) the opposing team, to retain possession of the ball, and to feed it to the strikers, and perhaps, to score as well

K-9

SlickRic wrote: »

because he is obsessed with the formation; all of Aquilani, Gerrard, Masch and Lucas don't fit.

and Rafa will not mess with a formula he trusts while we're struggling for the most part; i.e. Lucas and Masch sitting with Gerrard behind the front man.

That is it in a nutshell. You could play those 4 and it looks great on paper, but you'd have no width.

Mascherano was very good tonight. At Anfield, you wouldn't need Lucas tracking back as much, or could go with Acquilani.

Masch

Kuyt Acquilani Benny

Gerrard

NGog

everdead.ie

I've been very impressed with aqualani when he plays I think he could replace Gerrard in the coming years but will he be willing to stick around long enough behind Gerrard in the team is the question on current form I think he warrants being put in instead of Gerrard

SlickRic

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

can we clear this up. Lucas plays box to box but was he playing the holding role tonight. this seems to be the definition below
A Holding midfielder is a player whose position of play is midway between the attacking strikers and the defenders. Their main functions are to dispossess (tackle) the opposing team, to retain possession of the ball, and to feed it to the strikers, and perhaps, to score as well

please don't start quoting definitions; pointless.

he's asked to play the holding role more often that not under Rafa.

there is no room in the team for all 4 that i mentioned, so Rafa is playing what he knows and trusts. that was all my point was. i did not ask for a Lucas debate on what kind of midfielder he is. we can all see where Rafa plays him, and what he asks of him most of the time, especially in games like this away from home.

Spiritoftheseventies

SlickRic wrote: »

please don't start quoting definitions; pointless.

he's asked to play the holding role more often that not under Rafa.

there is no room in the team for all 4 that i mentioned, so Rafa is playing what he knows and trusts. that was all my point was. i did not ask for a Lucas debate on what kind of midfielder he is. we can all see where Rafa plays him, and what he asks of him most of the time, especially in games like this away from home.

Not arguing with you slic ric. Just some posters didnt think he was a holding midfielder and I think as a rule he is. He doesnt do that much box to box play.

K-9

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

Not arguing with you slic ric. Just some posters didnt think he was a holding midfielder and I think as a rule he is. He doesnt do that much box to box play.

He does, just nobody seems to bloody notice!

2 good assists were pointed out on already, in this game alone. If one had come of, we'd all be raving about Lucas. Football is fickle like that.