Anyone hear about the Shooting in Cabra

Name Changed

Has Williams done any radio interview since last night?

deelite

Name Changed wrote: »

Has Williams done any radio interview since last night?

I think he's vying for NOTW front page - who will they pick - the footballer or the gangland shooting?

mike65

Pageant Messiah wrote: »

Pink Panther tune ?????

Dead Don Dead Don Dead Don Dead Don Dead Don

That's the Inspector Clouseau theme

wyndham

Why do they shoot in pubs all the time? There are many witnesses and presumably the intended targets are not drinking alone so there is also the danger that others may be carrying a gun and return fire. Why not shoot them outside their houses? If I were a gangland supremo, I would prob do my drinking at home.

deelite

wyndham wrote: »

Why not shoot them outside their houses? If I were a gangland supremo, I would prob do my drinking at home.

Most of them have cctv outside their houses and wear bullet proof vests - you'd need a precise aim. I think that's why they do the deeds in pubs - there's no room for error and that's why they are shot in the head.

wyndham

The pubs must have CCTV too surely.

--LOS--

Has anyone been by there today? Is it closed for morning drinks? :pac:

adamski8

wyndham wrote: »

The pubs must have CCTV too surely.

but i guess he means that at the houses they can look outside themselves but while a pub has cctv only the publican has access and no one is watching out for lads in balaclaves heading in

dubtom

Surely a guy who has as many enemies as the Don knows it's only a matter of time before someone takes a pop,so why drink in public. Can they really be so deluded to think it's not going to happen to them.

If I was a gangland boss I'd have no friends or enemies,they'd all be dead.
I'd be super lonely though.:pac:

MagicSean

deelite wrote: »

Totally agree with you. I'm not sure how the criminals get their nick names whether it's from the garda or journalists. But Williams who left the Sunday World to go to the NOTW claims that he's not afraid to name them - but he cant name anybody because of he'd be sued. And just who is paying for him to be under 24 hour protection? Plus anybody living in certain areas could do Williams job better than him.

Another point is a lot of these criminals have kids in school - just think how they (and their teachers) must feel.

People could do a better job than him but they don't. Coz of the fear of reprisal. They just have to think back to Veronica Guerin.

uprising2 wrote: »

Fatpuss is not a murderer, quick cash withdrawl expert, maybe. Dunne had it coming a long time, from a LOT of people, 2 very different personalities, shouldn't be confused.

Saint Fatpuss? He might not get his hands as dirty but he's hardly a pillar of the community.

chubacca wrote: »

that journalist writes about these guys just to sell newspapers and therefore must take some of the blame when these guys are gunned down due to his gloryfying of their activities in the national press

You could just as easily blame tv or music.

wyndham wrote: »

Why do they shoot in pubs all the time? There are many witnesses and presumably the intended targets are not drinking alone so there is also the danger that others may be carrying a gun and return fire. Why not shoot them outside their houses? If I were a gangland supremo, I would prob do my drinking at home.

Person has let his guard down. Witnesses are all drinking alcohol. Big crowds make it harder to focus on a person. When I worked in a garage 4 men came in to rob the place. I couldn't describe them but I could tell you anything you want to know about their weapons. Also I reckon shooting them in a crowded pub lets the word out that they can get to you anywhere. And whats the point in being top of the pile if you cant leave your house?

chubacca

Name Changed wrote: »

He wasn't killed because of what Paul Williams writes in the paper

williams writes about these guys gloryfying their crimes to impressionable youngsters,making the likes of eamon dunne even more notorious and reading about himself being dangerous and ruthless is just making his ego even bigger,which makes him more violent,credit to williams for exposing them,but he does'nt need to keep gloryfying them week after week,there is people in our society who actually like being called a villian or a thug or a gangster,
williams does contribute to these guys downfall sooner rather than later,
some people might say thats a good thing

Stench Blossoms

wyndham wrote: »

The pubs must have CCTV too surely.

The pub he was in would be known locally for criminal activities taken place there.

Let them kill each other. As long they don't hurt the innocent.

CiaRa_TrueBlue

Stench Blossoms wrote: »

Let them kill each other. As long they don't hurt the innocent.

Yeah i agree with you there Stench. But its because of them that counties are getting a bad reputation.

--LOS--

Stench Blossoms wrote: »

The pub he was in would be known locally for criminal activities taken place there.

Let them kill each other. As long they don't hurt the innocent.

Nah I think the pub up the road is worse.

A lot of local old men go to matt whelans as far as I can see, I even see them perfecting their little comb-overs in the window outside before going in :pac:

Gavin "shels"

wyndham wrote: »

There are many witnesses

Yes but how many will talk!

wicklaman83

derfderf wrote: »

the scanners around dublin say different.

and what are the scanners saying as the guards are on tetra

deelite

--LOS-- wrote: »

Has anyone been by there today? Is it closed for morning drinks? :pac:

I heard their giving Free Shots today;)

--LOS--

deelite wrote: »

I heard their giving Free Shots today;)

ye Don say.

Pot Noodle =

Stench Blossoms wrote: »

The pub he was in would be known locally for criminal activities taken place there.

Let them kill each other. As long they don't hurt the innocent.

Definety the one up the road is well dodgy always has been
Matts is a local through & through

--LOS--

Pot wrote:

Definety the one up the road is well dodgy always has been
Matts is a local through & through

that one shall remain nameless.

Dancor

Pot wrote:

Matts is a local through & through

Its still a kip though.

malcolmplex

uprising2 wrote: »

Fatpuss is not a murderer, quick cash withdrawl expert, maybe. Dunne had it coming a long time, from a LOT of people, 2 very different personalities, shouldn't be confused.

I never suggested he was I was just pointing out that a lot of his mates like Marlo,John Daly and now Dunne have all met gruesome ends but I take your point about seperate personalities Fatpuss is more marsbarface than scarface:)

uprising2

deelite wrote: »

Thanks for that just wondering is bradley tank a cockney slang - like a pedal and a crank (if you get my drift)

Bradley Tank


No, Bradley's make Tanks, he couldn't name the 2 brothers by name so called them "tank brothers".

Eircom_Sucks

do ye reckon they can get your address from this site ??? ip address etc and hunt ye down

--LOS--

Eircom_Sucks wrote: »

do ye reckon they can get your address from this site ??? ip address etc and hunt ye down

sshhhh

potsy86

Eircom_Sucks wrote: »

do ye reckon they can get your address from this site ??? ip address etc and hunt ye down

noting is impossible if you've got the know how

uprising2

Eircom_Sucks wrote: »

do ye reckon they can get your address from this site ??? ip address etc and hunt ye down

Who?, by Who?

--LOS--

uprising2 wrote: »

Who?, by Who?

you by the bad guys

--LOS--

Did anyone else have the gardai call around yet?

Name Changed

chubacca wrote: »

williams writes about these guys gloryfying their crimes to impressionable youngsters,making the likes of eamon dunne even more notorious and reading about himself being dangerous and ruthless is just making his ego even bigger,which makes him more violent,credit to williams for exposing them,but he does'nt need to keep gloryfying them week after week,there is people in our society who actually like being called a villian or a thug or a gangster,
williams does contribute to these guys downfall sooner rather than later,
some people might say thats a good thing

Williams never actually named Eamonn Dunne, so he hasn't contributed. The only people who know who he was talking about would be people that know him or other criminals. Every other criminal knows who he is anyway.

Saying Williams has a part to play in the murder is absolutely ridiculous. He has the right to report on gangland crime and we have a right to read it if we want. There is only one person to blame for Dunne being shot and that is Dunne. If he wasn't a violent thug then he would not have been shot. What goes around comes around. Williams had nothing to do with it. Dunne decided his own fate. Everyone always wants to be top dog. Once he took over, he was always going to be murdered. It was all a matter of time.