How high will unemployment rise?

Sandvich

RichardAnd wrote: »

I'm far more in touch than most people I can tell you. I said I can see it happening, I gave no indication of what my opinion on the matter is or weather or not I believe it to be plausible, as you said. I merely stated that I can see it being a reality.

But I don't think this either. There is a strong cowardly element to many in the Dail and such drastic measured would run the risk of the veil of apathy finally being removed from someone and resulting in a serious ****kicking. While they made some hard decisions do you really want to piss off a bunch of 6 foot well built drunken out of work builders? As out of touch is the government is, I can't imagine them going this far.

Maybe it wouldn't be so bad in a sense then, but the risk of the Irish people once again doing absolutely nothing is too high.

The IMF's conduct has shown slashing things doesn't work, anyway.

who_ru

the IMF is like the boogeyman. he's gonna get 'cha. I feel sorry for the Greeks, betrayed by politicians, accountants, bankers and of course a single european currency that has been a disaster for all concerned.

ei.sdraob

who_ru wrote: »

the IMF is like the boogeyman. he's gonna get 'cha. I feel sorry for the Greeks, betrayed by politicians, accountants, bankers and of course a single european currency that has been a disaster for all concerned.

so everyone is at fault

but the Greeks themselves

i see :rolleyes:

ei.sdraob

can the unemployment figures here actually be trusted :eek:

OMD

ei.sdraob wrote: »

can the unemployment figures here actually be trusted :eek:

What is the problem with the figures?

ei.sdraob

OMD wrote: »

What is the problem with the figures?

1. read linked article
2. invest in a calculator (same goes for forfas)

OMD

ei.sdraob wrote: »

1. read linked article
2. invest in a calculator (same goes for forfas)

Just answer the question rather than try to be smart. If you are going to post links at least comment on them.

I hope it is not something as stupid as thinking the percentages should add up to 100% because that would be so idiotic.

ei.sdraob

OMD wrote: »

Just answer the question rather than try to be smart. If you are going to post links at least comment on them.

I hope it is not something as stupid as thinking the percentages should add up to 100% because that would be so idiotic.

yes they are not adding up

OMD

ei.sdraob wrote: »

yes they are not adding up

Don't be ridiculous. You cannot seriously suggest the figures should add up to 100%

ei.sdraob

OMD wrote: »

Don't be ridiculous. You cannot seriously suggest the figures should add up to 100%

will look you look at the figures in the linked article image, its all over the place :rolleyes:

OMD

ei.sdraob wrote: »

will look you look at the figures in the linked article image, its all over the place :rolleyes:

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Why not just say what figures you feel should add up?

OMD

ei.sdraob wrote: »

will look you look at the figures in the linked article image, its all over the place :rolleyes:

Perhaps I should explain it to you.

Lets say for example that the unemployment rate for 15-19 year olds is 100% for arguments sake. That means For those with no formal education it is 100%, those with lower secondary 100%, Upper secondary 100%, Post leaving cert 100% etc.
Obviously the totals could not possible add up to 100%.

Are you seriously suggesting they should? Sounds like you have a calculator but no basic understanding of figures

RichardAnd

That graph is confusing. Is it suggesting that figures are lower than the CSO are claiming or is it simply doctored statistics?

ei.sdraob

OMD wrote: »

Sounds like you have a calculator but no basic understanding of figures

I recommend you look harder (hint: specifically at unemployment rate %es on rhs "grand total" column)

here is the document from Forfas

heres page 7


and here is page 42


btw the % of total unemployment figure comes to 99.7% which is excusable with a margin of error, but thats not where the issues are

OMD

ei.sdraob wrote: »

I recommend you look harder (hint: specifically at unemployment rate %es on rhs "grand total" column)


btw the % of total unemployment figure comes to 99.7% which is excusable with a margin of error, but thats not where the issues are

Well just say where the issues are rather than giving hints. Where are these massive problems. I keep asking you to show me and you constantly fail to do so. It is a simple question. What exactly is the problem?

RichardAnd

Interesting. If I read that right, there seems to be as much of a chance of getting a job with an ordinary degree as there is with an honours. Hmm, I have always said there is no real difference between the two.

Highly Salami

ei.sdraob wrote: »

yes they are not adding up

Yule have 2 spel it out 4 us simpletons.

hinault

A more accurate assessment is to measure how many people are working in the economy - as opposed how many people are unemployed.

The taxbase of this country is essentially funded by those who work in this country.

Just my two cents worth.