Nokia N8 Megathread

kmart6

jimmynokia wrote: »

it saves some words though more important than the word you want LOL

I know....thats what makes it annoying ha!

long_b

kmart6 wrote: »

I know....thats what makes it annoying ha!

Did ye try the "type the word ten times in a row" trick ? That used to work on T9

kmart6

Well usually it onlt needs to be done once these days and I'd say I've done it 10 times at this stage...but I'll try it now anyway!

kmart6

As I suspected that didn't work!

dr ro

is it possible to get sportstracker and wellness diary to talk to each other?

jimmynokia

dr ro wrote: »

is it possible to get sportstracker and wellness diary to talk to each other?

This integration is being discussed with the developers of Sports Tracker, but you must remember that Sports Tracker is no longer owned by Nokia and such this will be a deal with a third party company. Fingers Crossed

shadowninty

Sitec wrote: »

i wiped everything of mine today and its running a lot better, N8's dont seem to like apps at all.

Symbain's last compatability break was before apps became BIG
the installation syatem is fairly messed up (private, resource, sys, system) although I'm sure it made some sort of sense back in 03-04

KrisW

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KrisW

Looks like PR 1.1 will be released tomorrow, 17. January.

This is a bugfix and stability release. Browser isn't improved (will be replaced in February), but some niggly bugs should be gone.

To get the firware update:

Tap "Call"
Type *#0000#
[ phone version info appears ]
Tap "Options" > "Check for updates"

If the new FW is available, you'll get a message asking to install.

Haven't tried this FW myself - it was up on a "dodgy" distribution site last week for a half a day or so, before it got yanked.


UPDATE:

Well, I just tried, and got nothing. Just shows (again): You can't believe everything you read on the Internet.

996tt

Hey guys,

Ive 2 N8 questions re the monthly data allowance.

1. Im off to the states next week and plan on making few calls from skype(using my monthly data allowance and conecting via vodafone ISP)

Will I incur any vodafone charges for using skype to make a call or will it simply be a case of reducing my data allowance and paying the normal skype charges.

2. Same question for maps, if I connect via vodafone ISP will it be the same as using the maps at home, ie no charges once im within my monthly data allowance.

Cheers in advance

KrisW

Ring Vodafone and confirm this before you try. If you don't you could make a very expensive mistake. Data roaming is only capped within the EU - charges in the USA can be horrendous (a guy I know came back with a four-figure bill after an extended trip to US with an iPhone).

My advice: Change "Data Use when roaming": "WLAN Only" and leave it there.

2. Same question for maps, if I connect via vodafone ISP will it be the same as using the maps at home, ie no charges once im within my monthly data allowance.

The mapping still works without a data connection. In built-up areas, it can be slow to get a lock without data network access, but it doesn't require a data connection to show the maps.

Without a data connection, you'll lose some search facilities, aerial photgraph view, and Network-assisted positioning. Everything else is built-in, including navigation.

Mimikyu

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Davy

Captain Morgan wrote: »

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Ye they are available cross the board for everyone S^3. Need to buy a the dab handset for it though at about 40 quid

Brian010

I have my N8 a month and the battery has gone to crap. I made loads of the suggested energy saving changes and it just runs out with no activity at all. Like I charge it fully in the evening and it's empty first thing in the morning. The 02 shop said they haven't had any problems with the N8. The 28 day period has passed so do I have to accept a repair? Kind of pissed off I spent the money and now will have to do without the phone while 02 send it away.

wilson10

g0g wrote: »

Please can an N8 owner (hopefully one who's owned other recent phones) help me justify choosing one! My recent phones are N95 and currently an N97. Have been offered work upgrade to N8 for € 40, Desire for € 40, Desire HD for € 55 or Galaxy for free. Despite all the N97 problems my heart still wants N8 but head says some others might be much better.

Pro N8:
Free maps (with a GPS that might finally work, unlike N97!)
Handy to move contacts between nokias
Wife has nokia so no new PC software
Decent camera/flash

That said, I suspect the Desire (and others) have a lot to offer that the N8 won't. Have any of you had the N8 plus one of the other phones above? Am I mad not moving to Android at this stage?

Thanks!

If it's not too late, forget about your heart and go with your head. My advice would be to go the Android route.

I upgraded to an N8 before Xmas and regretted it since, especially since Saturday last when my wife arrived home with a Samsung Galaxy S.

It was a revelation, a whole new world of stunning colour and graphics quality, simple to load apps. and ease of use.

The Nokia Ovi store is a joke, after a number of attempts I managed to download a game and a ringtone, but mostly I get "download error", with no explanation why.

The camera on the Nokia is good but that's the only redeeming factor I can come up with.

Even the O2 coverage is poor, I've been using a mobile on O2 in the same house for over 10 years and find I now need to go upstairs to make a call where I never had such a problem before.

With Android of course you have Google Maps, with Streetview, works like a dream on the Samsung.

As for internet there is no comparison between the speed and image and video quality of the 2 phones.

I said it before but foolishly relented, this will be my last Nokia.

monkeyslayer

bought an n8 as a fairly expensive treat for myself from a vodafone store on friday. enjoyed using it on saturday. sunday it crashed and wouldn't turn back on for about two hours. was pretty much fully charged. today the same thing. twice and now its been dead for about six hours. tomorrow its going back to the shop where they have to send it away to verify it wasn't me that damanged it, they'll only accept return and immediate replace on an unused product. and now i've no phone until i'm given a replacement. whenever that happens is anyones guess. was a lovely phone for about a day. 420euro for a load of grief really. not a happy n8 customer.

KrisW

wilson10 wrote: »

If it's not too late, forget about your heart and go with your head. My advice would be to go the Android route.

I upgraded to an N8 before Xmas and regretted it since, especially since Saturday last when my wife arrived home with a Samsung Galaxy S.

It was a revelation, a whole new world of stunning colour and graphics quality, simple to load apps. and ease of use.

The Nokia Ovi store is a joke, after a number of attempts I managed to download a game and a ringtone, but mostly I get "download error", with no explanation why.

The camera on the Nokia is good but that's the only redeeming factor I can come up with.

Even the O2 coverage is poor, I've been using a mobile on O2 in the same house for over 10 years and find I now need to go upstairs to make a call where I never had such a problem before.

With Android of course you have Google Maps, with Streetview, works like a dream on the Samsung.

As for internet there is no comparison between the speed and image and video quality of the 2 phones.

I said it before but foolishly relented, this will be my last Nokia.

If you've having poor coverage or connectivity issues, ask O2 for a new SIM, especially if your current one is over two years old. This may also resolve your "download error" problems. If you've been with them 10 years, it'll be free.

Quality of the display? Each to their own, but side-by-side, to my eyes the N8's colour rendition is much better than the Samsung's, which grossly oversaturates reds and has a pale blue cast on greys. Now, this does mean the Samsung's display looks more vivid, but to me it's unnatural; a kind of John Hinde Postcard effect on everything, and the display isn't sharp either - it might be good enough for images, but that "PenTile" matrix just doesn't work as well as a traditional RGB layout for text and line graphics.

The ambient light sensor on the N8 is more aggressive than Samsungs when it comes to dimming. There are utilities to override this; what I did was just turn up the brightness. (Settings > Phone >Display > Light Sensor)

By the way, Android is fine, but the Galaxy S is only superficially a good phone. Samsung's dumb choice of filesystem will bring that new phone to a grinding halt within a couple of months' use. If you're going for an Android, HTC are a much better option.

was a lovely phone for about a day. 420euro for a load of grief really. not a happy n8 customer.

F'ck that. Go back to them and demand a new phone. You are their customer, they still have your money and did not provide you with a working handset. "Unused"? How are you supposed to tell if it works without using it.

srsly78

Yup Galaxy is rubbish, Desire is much better. Even Galaxy is better than N8 tho, oh how the mighty have fallen.

wilson10

KrisW wrote: »

If you've having poor coverage or connectivity issues, ask O2 for a new SIM, especially if your current one is over two years old. This may also resolve your "download error" problems. If you've been with them 10 years, it'll be free.

Quality of the display? Each to their own, but side-by-side, to my eyes the N8's colour rendition is much better than the Samsung's, which grossly oversaturates reds and has a pale blue cast on greys. Now, this does mean the Samsung's display looks more vivid, but to me it's unnatural; a kind of John Hinde Postcard effect on everything, and the display isn't sharp either - it might be good enough for images, but that "PenTile" matrix just doesn't work as well as a traditional RGB layout for text and line graphics.

The ambient light sensor on the N8 is more aggressive than Samsungs when it comes to dimming. There are utilities to override this; what I did was just turn up the brightness. (Settings > Phone >Display > Light Sensor)

By the way, Android is fine, but the Galaxy S is only superficially a good phone. Samsung's dumb choice of filesystem will bring that new phone to a grinding halt within a couple of months' use. If you're going for an Android, HTC are a much better option.


t.

I got a new sim from O2 at the same time, and I've tried different connectivity settings to no avail.

As for the display, put 2 Youtube videos side by side and there is a marked difference in the clarity and picture quality, the Samsung is very noticeably better, whatever your individual opinion of the colour.

As for the choice of Samsung, having decided on Android for the wife, our first choice was HTC Desire, which we saw over Xmas with a friend.

Problem was The HTC was 90 euros dearer on a silver upgrade, so she opted for the Samsung at 99 euro, on the advice of the assistant.

Oh I hope you're wrong about the short lifespan, but you seem to know what you're talking about.

monkeyslayer

Hey any you guys have an n8 for long? sent mine back today, debating whether to get a refund or a replacement now... was informed nokia aren't manufacturing them anymore as they've had so many problems with them. Pity cause I really liked the phone both in spec and in use but if it doesn't work properly, if at all, then its no good to me.

Italia

Honestly, whoever told you that, unless they are an official representative of Nokia management, is simply talking BS.
The N8 is supposed to be the flagship phone. I cannot see that they have canned it after only a couple of months.

The supposed 'many problems' simply refer to a small (whatever that figure might be in a global context) percentage of the original batch that had power problems. Production of the affected component was halted and fixes implemented. This issue has been widely reported on and publicized.

I've had an N8 for about 2 months and it works great for me. It has some quirks in the way it works, but nothing to write home about. Battery life is about 2 full days with moderate use.
It is a MAJOR step forward from the N97. No, I would not swap it for an Iphone (which I also own) or an Android -IMHO, too flaky for my liking and for my needs.

monkeyslayer wrote: »

Hey any you guys have an n8 for long? sent mine back today, debating whether to get a refund or a replacement now... was informed nokia aren't manufacturing them anymore as they've had so many problems with them. Pity cause I really liked the phone both in spec and in use but if it doesn't work properly, if at all, then its no good to me.

KrisW

wilson10 wrote: »

I got a new sim from O2 at the same time, and I've tried different connectivity settings to no avail.

As for the display, put 2 Youtube videos side by side and there is a marked difference in the clarity and picture quality, the Samsung is very noticeably better, whatever your individual opinion of the colour.

I'll give you that. YouTube on Android shows desktop-quality, 360p videos. On Symbian you only get the mobile ones at 240p. The quality of these is much poorer. Doesn't make the N8's display worse than the Galaxy's though.

As for the choice of Samsung, having decided on Android for the wife, our first choice was HTC Desire, which we saw over Xmas with a friend.

Problem was The HTC was 90 euros dearer on a silver upgrade, so she opted for the Samsung at 99 euro, on the advice of the assistant.

Oh I hope you're wrong about the short lifespan, but you seem to know what you're talking about.

Don't worry, there is a fix for it (that someone on the Android forum can walk you through when the time comes), but it's bloody annoying when it happens. Basically, the more you use the internal storage, the slower it gets. Eventually, swapping applications, or trying to fetch mail results in the phone hanging for a couple of seconds at a time.
This isn't an Android issue, it's Samsung making a particularly poor implementation decision.
The HTC is worth saving up the extra for. A lovely phone.

Hey any you guys have an n8 for long? sent mine back today, debating whether to get a refund or a replacement now... was informed nokia aren't manufacturing them anymore as they've had so many problems with them. Pity cause I really liked the phone both in spec and in use but if it doesn't work properly, if at all, then its no good to me.

Yeah... they've even opened a new production lines in Brazil and Hungary to not make N8s, because the existing Finnish and Chinese production is insufficient to meet demand.

You'd wonder why someone would lie about something like that... What was your phone's problem, btw?

All mobile phones will have a small number of failed units, which is no consolation if you end up with one of them, but it's a fact of life. Early production units of the N8 had a power failure problem, but is fixed now. This issue was grossly overstated on a certain website, but reports from sources without an axe to grind would suggest the N8's failure rate is at worst industry average, probably better.

Take the phone back, see what February's big update brings. If you don't like it then, there's pretty decent demand for these on eBay/Adverts.

Davy

monkeyslayer wrote: »

was informed nokia aren't manufacturing them anymore as they've had so many problems with them.

Your source has a creative imagination. The reality is that are sold out in most places as demand is so high across the EU. I think they had hit the 4 million sold mark before christmas.

Davy

Dont buy soundhound, shazam was released yesterday and is much better and you save yourself a fiver

Download free from ovi here: > http://store.ovi.com/content/67101/download

kmart6

Davy wrote: »

Dont buy soundhound, shazam was released yesterday and is much better and you save yourself a fiver

Download free from ovi here: > http://store.ovi.com/content/67101/download

Is Shazam not usually a paid app?!

Davy

kmart6 wrote: »

Is Shazam not usually a paid app?!

You get the premium version (full features) free for 30 days, and then you can continue to use the standard version after that for free.

srsly78

Italia wrote: »

or an Android -IMHO, too flaky for my liking and for my needs.

Did you really just say android was flakier than Nokia's recent efforts? :rolleyes:

kmart6

Davy wrote: »

You get the premium version (full features) free for 30 days, and then you can continue to use the standard version after that for free.

Thats what I thought alright....

Mimikyu

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jimmynokia

this seems to getting common after updates check your contact settings and see if they have returned to default