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Any chance you may know? - Cat query
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28-04-2010 2:27pm#1Hi Folks
Does anyone know what breed of cat this is? I have one since he was a kitten. Also his hair has become very matted and knotted especially under his belly. Is there anyway I could get rid of these knots?
Thanks in advance!
P.S this is not my cat in the picture but may as well be as they are identical!
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Definitely looks like a persian to me. Well maybe a persian cross. I'd like to see a picture of the real cat though!
Also almost identical to my cat. I found him at about 12 weeks old (with a badly infected eye ulcer thing, hence the way his eye looks now) and I thought he might be half persian and the vet thought so too . . . I'd be interested to see if any persian owners agree with me though!
The thing about persian's fur is (I think) their under coat is as long as the outer coat so they are very soft and fluffy, compared to some other longhaired cats who have sleeker fur. My cat's fur seems very persian to me . . . and blue is a common colour for persians I think. Luckily my one grooms himself brilliantly but he still loves to be brushed
Here's my cat! (on the right) It's not the best pic to show off his fur but he's very fluffy. Not quite as longhaired as some persians I've seen, but he's outdoors alot and it's longer in the winter
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You're the lucky owner of a DLH...Domestic Long Hair! The siblings look nothing like him and the Mammy doesnt look him, you've got a nice moggie mix there. No point in guessing a "breed" tbh but gorgeous either way.:)
Yeah, that too, but sometimes it's fun to try and guess what fancy schmancy origins your moggy might have...
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There's another thread on here about a company that will do DNA tests on your dog to see what breed they are, so I wonder if they do cats too?
Blue (grey) is a diluted form of black, so black cats would often have blue babies. And both parents could have been shorthaired and still had one longhaired kitten, or the dad could have been longhaired.
Does he have big round eyes? Is his face kinda a bit rounder than normal cats, with a slightly shortened muzzle/nose? The same for his littermates. Persian's have "cobby" bodies, which I think means kinda short but thick legs. They also have fur between the toes. They often have really yellow eyes too. I'm not an expert on Persians or anything but they are some of the features of them . . . I think.
If his fur is really long and matted and you can't cut it out, then I'd suggest taking him to the groomers or to the vet to be sedated and have it shaved. That was you can start over. If you comb it once a week it should be fine. Or just keep trying to comb the matts, until they hopefully moult out.0 -
morganafay wrote: »There's another thread on here about a company that will do DNA tests on your dog to see what breed they are, so I wonder if they do cats too?
Blue (grey) is a diluted form of black, so black cats would often have blue babies. And both parents could have been shorthaired and still had one longhaired kitten, or the dad could have been longhaired.
Does he have big round eyes? Is his face kinda a bit rounder than normal cats, with a slightly shortened muzzle/nose? The same for his littermates. Persian's have "cobby" bodies, which I think means kinda short but thick legs. They also have fur between the toes. They often have really yellow eyes too. I'm not an expert on Persians or anything but they are some of the features of them . . . I think.
If his fur is really long and matted and you can't cut it out, then I'd suggest taking him to the groomers or to the vet to be sedated and have it shaved. That was you can start over. If you comb it once a week it should be fine. Or just keep trying to comb the matts, until they hopefully moult out.
It is the under parts that matt; the first time I found it I was appalled so I googled it and saw the lengths some go to over this.
I started tackling it; the skin is so thin and always if cat moves..... Mine are very docile thankfully.
Then I was ill and left it a couple of days , and when I picked the cat up, all the matted fur on her belly was gone.
So now I leave it to them. Sometimes a matt that is part detached will get snipped off. They are better at the work than we are....
Mine were rescues ; a third one in the litter was short haired. They have huge yellow eyes.. The tails are amazing, like squirrels. Black tails; some white on their bodies..
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I was minding a long haired cat before, and found the easiest thing for mats was just to wait til the cat was asleep, and then to just snip off the top of the mat (don't try to cut it away from the skin). When the top of the knot was snipped off, the mat tended to work itself out - either by the cat itself or by me with a brush.
This technique has ensured the cat has never been injured - however, I cannot say the same for myself. (Nice swipe that drew blood when the cat woke up & decided it wanted to KEEP its mats).
Often happens!
I try that too; getting nearer without getting too close to the skin lest a sudden move by the cat shifts the scissors. We are too far away from anay vet to take chances. Apparently a cat's skin is thin and once pierced will keep tearing.
My two love being handled but even so a squirm of sheer pleasure can happen.
I honestly would not put them through the stress of being sedated etc.0 -
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I'd still say he's maybe part persian or something. His colouring and hair. He looks so like my cat Hobo! Only my cat has a kinda shorter face.
Maine Coone's have like tufts on the tips of the outside of the ear I think?
He probably won't like being bathed, but he'll probably put up with it if you do it really quickly. He might meow and stuff, but it'd probably be good for him. Also you can get cheap dog clippers in Argos and you could use those to clip off the matts, it'd be safer than scissors. I think they're about 20-25 euro or something? Just pull the matt away from the skin gently, and try to clip as close to the skin as you can. If you feel confident enough to it's quite easy. 0 -
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I was just thinking of the colour and quality of the fur, but I don't know THAT much about persians. I just thought that doll faced persians don't have extremely squashed faces, and he could have inherited the normal face but the persian fur? He could just be a mixed breed. He could have a little bit of a purebreed in him somewhere back. Also persians are much more popular than maine coones or norweigian forest cats, right? Like there'd be more chance that there could have been one around. But yeah, someone who owns persians would know much better . . .
Kittens in the same litter can indeed have different daddies Cats are induced ovulators, so when they mate with a tom cat they ovulate, and then they might mate with several other tom cats. That's what I've read anyway.
I've never had litters of kittens that looked dramatically different, as far as I remember right now, but there were never that many unneutered tom cats around my house cos I lived in the country.
If the two parents are short haired, but carry the long haired gene, then there will be about 1 in 4 long haired babies. I know someone who had two short haired cats who always mated with each other, and every litter was always 4 and there was always one long haired baby!0 -
morganafay wrote: »I was just thinking of the colour and quality of the fur, but I don't know THAT much about persians. I just thought that doll faced persians don't have extremely squashed faces, and he could have inherited the normal face but the persian fur? He could just be a mixed breed. He could have a little bit of a purebreed in him somewhere back. Also persians are much more popular than maine coones or norweigian forest cats, right? Like there'd be more chance that there could have been one around. But yeah, someone who owns persians would know much better . . .
Kittens in the same litter can indeed have different daddies Cats are induced ovulators, so when they mate with a tom cat they ovulate, and then they might mate with several other tom cats. That's what I've read anyway.
I've never had litters of kittens that looked dramatically different, as far as I remember right now, but there were never that many unneutered tom cats around my house cos I lived in the country.
If the two parents are short haired, but carry the long haired gene, then there will be about 1 in 4 long haired babies. I know someone who had two short haired cats who always mated with each other, and every litter was always 4 and there was always one long haired baby!
If it did have some persian in him I'd expect more charteristics than just the fur. Doll faced cats still have a kind of flat face not as bad but it's still obviously flat. The nose on this cat looks quite pointed.
I kind of had to laugh, looking up the characterstics of the persians my cat shares a far few of them. His nose seems to be shorter than most cats (but no flat face) his ears are further apart and small, he kind of has the temperment(very much a lap cat, give a guess where he is now!) long hair too. There's too many thing with him that aren't any thing like persians, his long hair it's longest on cheeks, tail and inbetween his toes but the rest of it is shorter and thinner(but still long).
Chances are high that there is no persian cat in there, in fairness theres loads more dlh/dsh than there are purebreeds roaming around. I mean what owner of a purebreed is going to let their unneutered male cat out to roam where it could pick up fiv or get hit by a car. I'm not saying anything about letting cats out but if you were a breeder or had a show cat you'd do everything to keep the cats safe and healthy, if you were an owner of one of these wouldn't it be neutered?
Saying all that I think the traits domestic animals get is really interesting and I'd love to know more about it.
Big round eyes were mentioned, I just have to say I had a cat with huge round eyes, sometimes it was the first thing people commented on, and for a three legged cat that was something! She always got 'oh my god, its only got three legs' either before or after the eye comment. My granny called her Owl too!0 -
Yeah he could be anything, you never really know though. I know a breeder wouldn't let their cat wander, but someone who just has a persian might.
I still wonder if my cat is part persian, since he was abandoned so I have no idea where he came from. And a few people who have persians have said he looks exactly like their cat. Someone whose sister has loads of persians asked me if he was persian and someone else with 8 doll faces persians said he definitely look part persian. And I saw a pedigree doll faced persian who looked exactly like him only smaller and a little more angry looking He also has the temperament, totally laid back, loves cuddles, really placid, also will do the thing that Ragdolls do where they go totally limp when picked up and will lie like a baby in your arms . . . but then again, he's probably just a normal long haired cat :P Either way, he's just as nice. 0 -
morganafay wrote: »Yeah he could be anything, you never really know though. I know a breeder wouldn't let their cat wander, but someone who just has a persian might.
I still wonder if my cat is part persian, since he was abandoned so I have no idea where he came from. And a few people who have persians have said he looks exactly like their cat. Someone whose sister has loads of persians asked me if he was persian and someone else with 8 doll faces persians said he definitely look part persian. And I saw a pedigree doll faced persian who looked exactly like him only smaller and a little more angry looking He also has the temperament, totally laid back, loves cuddles, really placid, also will do the thing that Ragdolls do where they go totally limp when picked up and will lie like a baby in your arms . . . but then again, he's probably just a normal long haired cat :P Either way, he's just as nice.
I agree it really doesn't matter where the cat is from, they're still great and adorable. I have a thing about weird things in cats I was almost going to adopt on with a curly tail. It wasn't piglet curly, 1/3 of it was flat along the back then it curled around. It's a normal trait that can happen in any cat, not connected to a breed at all. Some cats can have piglet curly as well. (tail wasn't broken either and the cat could move it around fine but this was the natural position for the tail)
I am really interested in these traits and how genes are passed. So far I don't know much about it.0 -
I agree it really doesn't matter where the cat is from, they're still great and adorable. I have a thing about weird things in cats I was almost going to adopt on with a curly tail. It wasn't piglet curly, 1/3 of it was flat along the back then it curled around. It's a normal trait that can happen in any cat, not connected to a breed at all. Some cats can have piglet curly as well. (tail wasn't broken either and the cat could move it around fine but this was the natural position for the tail)
I am really interested in these traits and how genes are passed. So far I don't know much about it.
Really, I've never heard of that, that's kinda cool I thought I knew every kind of weird cat thing! 0 -
morganafay wrote: »Really, I've never heard of that, that's kinda cool I thought I knew every kind of weird cat thing!
I know I thought that it was broken at first but no.
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