How do I delete my boards account?

Overheal

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

Was talking up until tongith overheal and again thats not being fair. Went into that thread to point out something to a poster re third party email. Got my fingers burnt with an infraction and then you bring it up online for good measure. I even made a point of apologising on that thread.

When is it fair. When is it ever fair with you. You appear, if I am to understand the rest of the Soccer Forum, to have no problem with raising issues that have been long forgotten about by a magnitude of days, weeks, months, and across multiple different Pseudonyms used by yourself. And now you have an issue with me, raising the point that you can't even vouch for your own behavior as early as 3 hours ago?

Seriously? When do you accept any sense of responsibility for your actions?

And don't answer me until you have the common respect to address DeVore's queries first.

DeVore

Going to answer me?


DeV.

Spiritoftheseventies

DeVore wrote: »

Going to answer me?


DeV.

Sorry this is confusing DeVore. I thought i was doing this with Darragh. Which is why I pm'd you.
Whats the update on that.
Re the social group not sure if you were around for all that but around five out of the thirty six had no intention of discussing the issues.
They started setting up threads which were totally unrelated. I dont have a lock facility for thread in social group so what you are being bit unfair when you call it an online fail.
I invited some of those members in good faith including two mods (one of whom was xavi by the way) so I thought we might have maybe a polite discussion.
But was clear from a very early stage that wasnt going to happen unfortunately.

DeVore

You said above that all new signups on Boards are vetted by Admins.

That is not true.

Accept that you were wrong, or call me a liar.


DeV.

Spiritoftheseventies

DeVore wrote: »

You said above that all new signups on Boards are vetted by Admins.

That is not true.

Accept that you were wrong, or call me a liar.


DeV.

Fair enough Dev. i was wrong. Will you in turn accept that you weren't privy to everything that went on in the social group.

DeVore

I read everything in it from the day it started. My avatar was a joke about the fact that I turn up like magic sometimes. I was watching to ensure no one started to organise or orchestrate anything nasty from it. Since they didnt, I let it run its own course. Ironically I disagree with stamping out dissent

You made any number of baisc errors, from setting yourself up king.... to laying down your thoughts as gospel without gathering their input first, major bad idea.

Then when everything didnt go as you planned you deleted EVERYTHING. Content that wasnt yours to remove..... posts that were quite reasonable, opposing voices, on and off topic threads, alternative strategies and differing complaints.... *boom* you deleted the lot because you didnt like what was being written.


Pretty accurate so far? Have I said anything factually incorrect?

DeV. (sleep now).

Spiritoftheseventies

DeVore wrote: »

I read everything in it from the day it started. My avatar was a joke about the fact that I turn up like magic sometimes. I was watching to ensure no one started to organise or orchestrate anything nasty from it. Since they didnt, I let it run its own course. Ironically I disagree with stamping out dissent

You made any number of baisc errors, from setting yourself up king.... to laying down your thoughts as gospel without gathering their input first, major bad idea.

Then when everything didnt go as you planned you deleted EVERYTHING. Content that wasnt yours to remove..... posts that were quite reasonable, opposing voices, on and off topic threads, alternative strategies and differing complaints.... *boom* you deleted the lot because you didnt like what was being written.


Pretty accurate so far? Have I said anything factually incorrect?

DeV. (sleep now).

Sorry again I feel if they are putting up stuff that wasnt related I didnt have much choice. Would be pretty much be akin to me putting up whatever I wanted on thread you modded.
Set up a number of threads but some of the posts were retarded to be honest Again Devore as a back drop to this a poster put up a seperate soccer clubs forum a while back. Early on a poster made a point and immediately someone facepalmed it. That was before I even come on.
Those against change often use these tactics and then come out with statements that in the cold light of day dont hold up.
But at the time they get away with it because if enough people say it then the logic is it must be true.
Those who make these statements dont actually say anything of substance but by attacking poster they can undermine the debate.
I think its really important on these feedback threads that mods realize that there are those who wont people changing the status quo even if it might be a good thing.
And they will be employ whatever tactic necessary to achieve their aims. And what happened on that group is that some posters deliberately sabotaged the group with posts so as to derail the group which is what eventually happened.

DeVore

tsk tsk tsk...

Those pesky users.. goung around, posting whatever they want, where they want, complaining, going off topic and demanding to be respected etc...




There outta be rules against it.

DeV.

Overheal

DeVore wrote: »

tsk tsk tsk...

Those pesky users.. goung around, posting whatever they want, where they want, complaining, going off topic and demanding to be respected etc...




There outta be rules against it.

DeV.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2krXq8fw90

Xavi6

Can I ask SOTS - why did you not just delete the 'problem' posts?

Why did you censor those who disagreed with you by removing their posts as well and also their access?

Spiritoftheseventies

Chong wrote: »

I am a long time member of that forum, and because I dont post regularly does not mean someone who has been here just under a year can dismiss my usage of the forum I have used for 8 years.

My usage of the forum is reading, I read, I have contributed to that forum in the past but I am content in reading now, if thats ok with yourself kind sir. I dont feel the need to post every day or feel the need to post stuff that frankly infuriates people on a regular basis. You have been likened to a troll for very good reason , and as you know by now this pretty much by general consensus, be it here or in the soccer forum. Just have a quick read of your "Letstalksoccer" thread to realise your serious lack of ineptitude.

You have an absolute cheek to dismiss me for starters because I dont post every waking thought in my head in every thread I can lurk in and b)the community as a whole. Let me fill you in on that forum, it is a community of people, that community is Tickets, Boardeaux, Go Ahead Eagles, and Soccer. There are people on there who have made good friends, socialised with each other, played football with each other, have lost friends on there, so for you to come on here 1 year on , and dismiss, bitch and bull**** about a community of friends is an insult to everyone who wishes to use and partake in boards.ie's soccer community.

You sir have no business tackling non existent issues, and these constant threads be it in Feedback, FeedForward, Help Desk, Social Groups, Soccer Forum are an absolute shambles of the highest order, you are trying to bring the forum in to disrepute. Thankfully everyone can see right through you.

Sorry chong couldnt let this go. This was posted after two months after I joined. Take a look at who got nominated for newcomer in second post below. There are trolls on there whether you like it or not and for the most part they are dealt with. This crusade I am supposed be on comes from a frustration from posters continually putting up posts that go out to wind people up. They are called wummers. The fact I know of the word confirms their existance.
Out of this a Liverpool seperate club forum thread was proposed. Not by me. No crusade. Thread closed. A seperate club forum was set up. Not by me. thread closed. So for you to claim that I am behind this is untrue. For you to suggest that everyone is happy with the way things are going is untrue. I called for things to be improved and certain posters arranged it so that wouldnt happen. I can't prove it but the fact that so many dead threads were put up in that group tells you enough. So yes I have every business to do this. But like I said others have put up threads as well. It suits peoples purposes to blame me though.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055717696

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055766586

Spiritoftheseventies

Xavi6 wrote: »

Can I ask SOTS - why did you not just delete the 'problem' posts?

Why did you censor those who disagreed with you by removing their posts as well and also their access?

Like I said Xavi, threads were being put up to deliberately sabotage things. Anyones access I gave back to them. I transferred over the modship and that wasnt good enough
I then took the SF off the table and simple turnehd it into letstalksoccer. And still that wasnt good enough.
Obviously this thread has gone way off topic now but its all related. End of the day Xavi we can come to sort of a working relationship but where posters are acting up on there and Im have to ask for my account to be changed in one shape or other then we have a problem.
The only way round it IMO is to reverse the rules brought in last November.

Overheal

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

Sorry chong couldnt let this go. This was posted after two months after I joined. Take a look at who got nominated for newcomer in second post below. There are trolls on there whether you like it or not and for the most part they are dealt with. This crusade I am supposed be on comes from a frustration from posters continually putting up posts that go out to wind people up. They are called wummers. The fact I know of the word confirms their existance.
Out of this a Liverpool seperate club forum thread was proposed. Not by me. No crusade. Thread closed. A seperate club forum was set up. Not by me. thread closed. So for you to claim that I am behind this is untrue. For you to suggest that everyone is happy with the way things are going is untrue. I called for things to be improved and certain posters arranged it so that wouldnt happen. I can't prove it but the fact that so many dead threads were put up in that group tells you enough. So yes I have every business to do this. But like I said others have put up threads as well. It suits peoples purposes to blame me though.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055717696

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055766586

Ok....I read the first 40 odd posts of that nomination thread and Im confused. Are you trying to say Chong is a newcomer? Are you mad that someone made the tongue-in-cheek remark "None, you all suck" or are you trying to point out that you nominated yourself as the best newcomer? Or were you simply upset that nobody thought to include you as any of their nominations? Not even Xavi6 seemed to give you a mention :eek:

Xavi6

1. There is a thread every summer where we, the mods, ask the users for suggestions on how to improve the forum. You want your agenda to be met now, and we declined. You will have time for your say but it will be on our terms,
terms which everyone else can handle. Again, it is you that has the problem, not us.

2. You have dodged my question nicely but I will persist. Why did you delete posts from the social group that simply disagreed with you? They weren't trouble causing or anything of the sort. The posters just did not buy into your bile. Please answer that question and that alone.

GLaDOS

I'm laughing my ass off here. Another feedback thread, a little more indirect this time though. I admire your patience guys, I really do.

Spiritoftheseventies

Xavi again Im disappointed in you because Im disappointed because you are attempting to put a spin a things here.
If i disagreed with and acutually when I did you took action which you are entitled to. The first thing one of the posters did was to put up a WTF thread without even bothering to read what was the group about.
What was disappointing was that I had invited the poster thinking he might have something to positive to say.
Instead he totally destabilized the group and what followed was another string of posters posting in exactly the same way.
Again and I dont wny you continue to ignore this I eventually took the SF business off the table and still posters continued to post posts of a disruptive nature.
So I was in a no win. Again would have been nice if have accepted the invitation you had continued and unlike Im you Im not going to second guess you on why you did.
And can I re iterate most of the mods in there are at least more receptive most of the time.
Dub 13 to be fair at least had the honesty to say he wasn't in favour of the group on the letstalksoccer thread but also also that it didnt turn into a witch hunt which it ultimately did.
And Xavi to finish Im asking you a question which you didnt answer. Why does the bull**** that happens on SF not happen elsewhere. Will leave it at that.

Spiritoftheseventies

Overheel did you get the connection between those two threads. No wasn't talking about Chon.
Im talking about the OP in one thread who got a nomination in another for best newcomer.
Was trying to make a point about the culture that exists in SF amongst some of the posters.

Xavi6

I'm putting no spin on anything. It is a fact that you deleted posts that questioned your ideals. Is that correct? I'm not talking about thread spoiling posts or piss take threads. I'm talking about genuine posts that argued against what you said.

I accepted your invitation because I wanted to see what you were saying about the forum behind closed doors. I had no interest in being part of your movement. The same goes for a lot of those who accepted.

Now as for your last comment, the reason most other forums don't have such problems is because there aren't certain posters pushing their own agenda and causing problems within them.

And I really don't think you will "leave it at that".

Spiritoftheseventies

Again Xavi you didnt answer my question. So for the third time now. Why is that the bull**** that happens on SF not happen elsewhere. I wasn't pushing any agenda in December when all this trouble started.

Tom Dunne

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

Why is that the bull**** that happens on SF not happen elsewhere.

If I could offer my opinion here - I don't watch soccer, I don't frequent the Soccer Forum and I don't know the offside rule.

However, as an Admin, I have had to deal with some contentious issues arising from that forum.

Quite simply, as far as I can see, it is down to passion. Everybody has an opinion and if there is one thing to get people riled up, it is soccer. Hence the need for strict admission rules and strict moderating.

Spiritoftheseventies

I agree there. That is exactly is what's needed in there and it's not happening. Some of us in there contrary to what Chong might think want to post there in peace without the trolling that is taking place.
So yeah would agree stricter admission rules and stricter admission is defintely needed.

Xavi6

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

Again Xavi you didnt answer my question. So for the third time now. Why is that the bull**** that happens on SF not happen elsewhere. I wasn't pushing any agenda in December when all this trouble started.

I answered your question. We have troublemakers in the forum who go over the top. I wasn't referring specifically to you, though you seem to have taken it that way.

The trouble is caused by tribalism and passion which in turn leads to people getting pissed off when they are pulled up for things. That in turn leads to agendas and calls for reform despite the fact that there is nothing drastically wrong with the current model.

Now, can you please answer my question about deleting posts that weren't troublesome and simply contravened your opinion.

Spiritoftheseventies

Did I not answer that twice already. I deleted the discussions the same way you lock a thread.
I cant lock a thread because its not a facility available there. Seriously Xavi i could re open that group tomorrow and same five posters would do exactly the same thing.
I predict here and now that on your Summer thread that certain posters will employ the same tactics if I so much as utter a word about change.
There was one poster who was recently well behaved up but the minute that group started up he was hell bent on derailing it.
Even when SF was taken off the table in the group he started up a thread on pizzas. He didnt want the group on any level.
These are the tactics some of them employ to get their own way. This poster as far as I can see has got away with absolute murder. Some of the stuff he posted on seperate club forum awhile was outrageous.
Will leave it that for the moment and we will see exactly what comes of this Summer thread. Wouldn't be overly optimistic but at least will give it a chance.

Xavi6

Did I not answer that twice already.

No you did not. You keep talking about people who derailed the forum.

I want to know about those who entered into a debate with you about the topics you created then had their posts deleted.

They are two completely seperate issues but you cannot differentiate between them.

old_aussie

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

I think users should be allowed a fresh start with a new account if they request. It needs to be looked at seriously.

Just change your IP address and create a new email account, Bob's your uncle

Spiritoftheseventies

Xavi6 wrote: »

No you did not. You keep talking about people who derailed the forum.

I want to know about those who entered into a debate with you about the topics you created then had their posts deleted.

They are two completely seperate issues but you cannot differentiate between them.

Xavi can you give me an example because there were an awful lot of posts. And in fairness I don't tend to question individual calls you make and you know what I happened the last time I pulled you up. I paid the price and to be fair I took it on the chin. I
I made a call just as you did in there.
But again if you can give me some specifics on which posters I deleted or nature of the post Ill do my best to answer the questeion.

Xavi6

Xavi can you give me an example

Well seeing as you deleted them all....

Spiritoftheseventies

Xavi6 wrote: »

Well seeing as you deleted them all....

And seeing that I deleted them all I gave you a general reason why. If you want to know why I deleted specific posts you need to quote an example. I made a call and in fairness some of those posters continued to post the same rubbish after I had deleted them. Again we do the group the same tomorrow and I guarentee the same thing would happen again.
In fairness Xavi to give your lot a bit of breathing space and that was what this social group was supposed to be about. to take all this stuff away from here and to discuss what proposals we could put to the Summer forum.
But a minority didn't want that (I counted roughly seven to eight of the posters who brought this up so out of the thirty and I could narrow it down to five the ones who made the most noise).
Again was a bit disingenious of you to join that group under false pretenses. Assumed you were okay with group and invited you so you would be aware of what was going on.
So I played fair with you Xavi and fairness is the bottom word. And in the spirit of fairness you have taken some posters to task when they step over the line although as another poster said the moderation should be stricter.
End of the day If I can post in peace without the sniping that takes place I won't have a problem. If that starts today and others make an effort to cut out their antics I wont have a problem.
As I mentioned on another feedback thread I have had some good discussions including a very good debate with Dub13 on the liverpool ownership deal.
So good debate in there can happen if you have the right conditions. I'm asking that you think about what I have said.
Pay particular attention to what I have put in bold. This above everything else is my main gripe with SF. I want to continue posting in there but not the way things are at present.

Gordon

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

some of the posts were retarded to be honest

Interesting content filterer! I'm wondering if we should trial such blue-sky user submission augmentation on the rest of the site to align with above. Maybe we could trial-basisize for a while by sampling a small userbase and hitting the ground running with it, small userbase, starting with maybe.. a singularity of users.. and then see how that goes outside the box?

ShiverinEskimo

How can you expect to post in peace in a partisan, densely populated Soccer Forum?

You seem to have less issue with partisan posters and more issue with the ridiculous idea that people disagree with your opinion. What you are essentially doing is rocking a huge, complicated, slighty leaky boat, but a boat that until you came onboard still sailed the course each season.

For all the bad things that have happened in the soccer forum over the years you are by far the biggest danger to it in some ways. In other ways I've never seen United, Liverpool and even Citeh fans so united on a common goal - putting you back in your box to prevent you from bringing the SF into any further disrepute.