Helmet cam, Dutch Marines storming pirate-captured ship

Manic Moran

From HNLMS Tromp.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElGPCfjwPv4

They aren't exactly subtle about it.

NTM

concussion

Excellent video, thanks for that.

iceage

One of my kids said it was like something out of "call of duty!! I said yeah but in this one they don't get back up when they get dead.

BigDuffman

Great video. Wish is could speak Dutch to hear the commentary! Craaaayyz Dutsh Accent!

Did they start opening up to supress the bridge from the chopper? As they came off the ropes firing!

Manic Moran

Yes, the belt-fed on the chopper was going before the first person sailed down.

NTM

Manic Moran

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/01/21/south.korea.pirate.rescue/index.html?hpt=T2

The Koreans had a good day.

8 pirates killed, 5 captured, 21 sailors rescued, one of whom was wounded. No casualties reported by the Korean military. I submit that this provides a rather needed boost to the ROK Military's prestige.

NTM

concussion

Good stuff, glad to see more operations against these pirates. According to the reporter this was an 'unprecedented' operation. Perhaps she could be directed to this thread.

mcgarrett

Just an observation but the containers are stacked 3 and 4 high in places and
the team that fast roped on to the containers at 1.00 seem to be stranded there with no way down.

While the man with the head cam is firing on the bridge the 2 lads on the right are having a look over the edge and appear to be having a "how the fcuk do we get down there" moment.

concussion

They wouldn't have landed on a stack of containers without a plan for completing the mission, either by getting off the containers or suppressing the pirates to allow another team land on deck.

mcgarrett

concussion wrote: »

They wouldn't have landed on a stack of containers without a plan for completing the mission, either by getting off the containers or suppressing the pirates to allow another team land on deck.

They seem to have dropped them a good distance from the bridge so I presume their job is to keep the pirates heads down while the rest of the party make their way to the bridge.

ex_infantry man

concussion wrote: »

They wouldn't have landed on a stack of containers without a plan for completing the mission, either by getting off the containers or suppressing the pirates to allow another team land on deck.

when containers are loaded on to a container ship there hooked together at the top by the crew of the ship so as to prevent the containers from tipping over the side in heavy swells in order to do this they have to get on top of the containers so theres definately a way down for the marines

concussion

Photo's of the operation show a pair of Marines at the forward end of the container while 4 others suppress - looks like they could be opening a route. There aren't many places on a container ship to land troops.

Tabnabs

mcgarrett wrote: »

Just an observation but the containers are stacked 3 and 4 high in places and
the team that fast roped on to the containers at 1.00 seem to be stranded there with no way down.

While the man with the head cam is firing on the bridge the 2 lads on the right are having a look over the edge and appear to be having a "how the fcuk do we get down there" moment.

That's a very interesting point. The obvious place to land would have been the front of the ship (aka fo'c'sle)



The containers are secured, but not in such a way that is conducive to climbing.

Winching onto the deck of a ship is nothing remarkable, I have seen the pilot arrive on the bridge wing in unpleasant weather, so military standard would be highly accurate.

Intriguing to know how they got down.

goldie fish

Madness, and highly dangerous to winch or drop to the fo'castle of a container ship. It is the area that experiences most movement, lateral and vertical. And then you have to make your way to the ships accomodation block, giving the pirates plenty of time to prepare themselves.

Zambia

In the end this is the only way to do it. Good job those men. Every boarded ship should be retaken by force.

Any pirates caught imprisoned for at least 10 years. After a military court.

The UN could pay another country in the region to house them.

As soon as these guys realise no one is returning to Somalia a rich pirate.

Then the practice will stop.

Manic Moran

goldie fish wrote: »

Madness, and highly dangerous to winch or drop to the fo'castle of a container ship. It is the area that experiences most movement, lateral and vertical. And then you have to make your way to the ships accomodation block, giving the pirates plenty of time to prepare themselves.

On the plus side, though, at least you know that if you're starting at one end, there is far less chance of having the enemy both in front and behind you.

NTM

Tabnabs

goldie fish wrote: »

Madness, and highly dangerous to winch or drop to the fo'castle of a container ship. It is the area that experiences most movement, lateral and vertical. And then you have to make your way to the ships accomodation block, giving the pirates plenty of time to prepare themselves.

The ship is dead in the water and the sea is calm as it often is in that part of the world so neither madness or highly dangerous. Plus I would have thought that in the greater scheme of things, lunatic Somalis armed to the teeth and trigger happy would have been a greater challenge, no?

I would also think that the visible presence of the warship on the port quarter and the dirty great helicopter hovering over the deck would be plenty of notice that the sh!t was about to hit the fan

If there was a medevac by helicopter on the same ship it would be done via the bridge wing or monkey island. On a ship like this, at about the other extremity and so equally tricky. But far easier than onto a small boat like a fishing boat etc. so not really a big deal.

A 129th Rescue Wing HH-60G Pave Hawk rescue helicopter crew hoists a 129th pararescueman during a rescue mission 650 miles off the coast of Baja, Mexico, April 4, 2010. The 129th sent two HH-60G Pave Hawk rescue helicopters and one MC-130P Combat Shadow aircraft, accompanied by one Marine Corps KC-130J Super Hercules tanker from Marine Corps Air Station Miramar, to pick up Michael Kalahar, a 56-year-old sailor from Port Angeles, Wash., who suffered life-threatening head and neck injuries aboard his sailing vessel WIND CHILD. The 129th rescue aircraft also recovered a four-man pararescue team, also based with the 129th. (Photo courtesy of Maj. Mathewe Wenthe)

Manic Moran

I'm curious about the lifeboat in that picture. Do people get in it from the second deck in the rear, then when the boat is full and the hatch closed, they just release the cable and the thing slides forward like a chute? Quite a ride.

NTM

tricky D

Pretty much it as long as you strap in well first, assuming you want to keep your teeth and avoid other injuries. Google for freefall lifeboat vids.

savagecabbages

Those lifeboats were first used on oil & gas platforms and have made their way onto a variety of ships over the years. looking at 40+ meters from the bigger platforms!!!

Back on topic, how many marines would have been 'put' onto the ship in this operation? The chopper can only take so many, would there have been another assault from a rib or smaller craft from a different direction(assuming the cover fire stopped!)?? or would the chopper have to make a few trips? I'm assuming one chopper.

I know the marines are fairly well trained and all that, but its still a daunting enough task taking on a whole ship with several levels and hiding spots! Guess the idea is to let the pirates know one silly move/shot and they'll be on the receiving end of some serious punishment...

Tabnabs

Dragging up an old thread I know, but the Dutch are at it again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9a5U-k_e_E

The Dutch Navy just released a video featuring a real deal, high seas gunfight during an anti-piracy operation on April 2, 2011. 16 pirates were arrested and 2 were fatally wounded by the Dutch forces.

vicwatson

lunatic Somalis armed to the teeth and trigger happy would have been a greater challenge, no?

That's what i thought after watching the vid. They showed all the amoury the Somalians had, why didn't the Somalians go and just shoot the hostages, the dutch arrived at the Bow, the Somalians and presumably the hostages were at the stern. They had plenty of time to do what they wanted to the hostages. is it real ?

I'm curious about the lifeboat in that picture. Do people get in it from the second deck in the rear, then when the boat is full and the hatch closed, they just release the cable and the thing slides forward like a chute? Quite a ride.

Exactly, you must be strapped in or else it's curtains ! On that vessel they can climb from first deck either (see ladder at right)

BigDuffman

Tabnabs wrote: »

Dragging up an old thread I know, but the Dutch are at it again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9a5U-k_e_E

Hmmm wondering about that video. Assuming that in that situation hostages were taken as per somali pirate SOPs..they put some amount of lead down on that boat including that .5 taking shots below deck without being able to see a target??

I'm not a dutch speaker so were there hostages on board??

iceage

Ass kicking, Dutch styley.

xflyer

The thing to remember is that many of these Somali pirates are not exactly hardened, highly trained killers. Many are opportunists drawn in by the dream of gold. Mostly just plain old fishermen suckered into it by other people who don't put themselves in danger.

So it's not surprising that when it comes to standing up to highly trained Marines laying down a huge weight of fire. Their first instinct is to hide, run or surrender. It takes a lot of training to get a man to stand up under fire or even fire back.

They're generally not ruthless terrorists. The more operations like this are carried out against them. The more the word gets out. Paying ransoms only encourages them. Killing them is very discouraging. Sometimes though that means hostages get killed. It's a tough balancing act.

A similar thing happened in the seventies, Palestinian terrorists hijacked a lot of airliners at different times. Demanding the release of prisoners etc. Initially authorities gave in to them. But when it got out of hand so demands were no longer met and aircraft began to be stormed. That soon stopped the hijackings alongside increased security at airports.