Greens Want To Outlaw Septic Tanks by 2015

Sponge Bob

The Greens have a jolly wheeze planned to tax us all ..starting from early July.

Most septic tanks in Galway drain into the Corrib Catchment and if you look at this report on the Corrib you will see that there is a plan to "fully" "restore" it and make it comply to the Water Framework Directive ( this yoke) and the Restore target date is 2015 ( page 6)

When you look at the yoke you may find out that the Greens are pretending to have a consultation right but in reality there is none, it is all a show. The show consultation is over by the end of June and the new laws come into force thereafter.

The report linked above has a lot of technical water related guff but the most interesting is the septic tank demographic which is referred to by the charming description of "Unsewered".

Starting from July a mandatory desludging regime will be enforced against every septic tank....merely for being in the Corrib catchment basin. ( page 11) of the report. This will be at 6 monthly or annual intervals I think and at €150 a pop or so.

The following restrictions are to be actioned, comments in italic MINE , page 7

Other Stipulated Measures
CR Cost recovery for water use Yes ( Water Metering)
SU Promotion of efficient and sustainable water use Yes ( Water Metering)
DWS Protection of drinking water sources Yes
AB Control of abstraction and impoundments Yes ) Licencing of Pivate Wells
PT Control of point source discharges Yes
DI Control of diffuse source discharges Yes
GWD Authorisation of discharges to groundwater No
PS Control of priority substances Yes
MOR Control of physical modifications to surface waters Yes
OA Controls on other activities impacting on water status Yes (Licencing of BOATS ASA WELL as ( or instead of ) rods and banning of speedboats and jetskis on Corrib)
AP Prevention or reduction of the impact of accidental pollution incidents Yes

If you want any clarification then get onto O Brolcháin and get him to explain these restrictions and regulations appertaining to them......some of which apply county wide like mandatory desludging. Some areas are to have an "Enforce requirements for percolation" clause attached to them but surprisingly not the lough Corrib basin.

The regulations are being introduced by green minister John Gormley including desludging/water metering and the mysterious "Enforce requirements for percolation" clause.

Gormley was invited by Michael D to explain himself on the 22nd of April

http://www.kildarestreet.com/wrans/?id=2010-04-22.714.0&s=Water+Framework+Directive#g716.0.r

But Gormley waffled about investment in water and sewage and never mentioned the Water Framework directive except in passing. A junior FFer in another department slithered the real story out a week later. Michael D never followed it up the useless prat....that will get you no high preference from me out the country Micko. You were told what the Water Framework Directive meant, it was a tax for living out in the country

http://www.kildarestreet.com/debates/?id=2010-04-29.653.0&s=Water+Framework+Directive#g655.2

By 20 April the plans will be adopted - it is a reserve function if necessary. Alternatively, it will be adopted by executive function by 14 May. The EPA is to submit a report to the Minister by 31 May 2010 and the Minister is to make amendments, if any, by 30 June 2010. Plans are due to come into effect from 9 July 2010.

We will all be thanking Gormley and O Brolcháin out in the country when we find out about the extra green taxes and levies and arbitrary fines he proposes from the 9th of July.

It may be green tinged pocket gouging on a scale that brings this rotten government down. I certainly hope so.

ronnie3585

Hopefully the Greens will have been outlawed by 2015.

Owen

The Green Party are actually the new communists. Telling us what cars we can drive, trying to bring in water metering, and now this shi1te. The shroud of political correctness and green initiatives are used to hide the facts that we're being forced into surpressive lifestyles.

So can we not vote for these Morons anymore please?

ronnie3585

PaintDoctor wrote: »

The Green Party are actually the new communists.

Oh the ironing.

Farcear

Water metering would be a good thing. Reduce income tax and let people pay for the water they use through a seperate system.

mikom

Sponge Bob wrote: »

Most septic tanks in Galway drain into the Corrib Catchment

What areas are we talking about here Sponge Bob, as the link you kindly supplied is a bit borked..... http://193.1.208.39/NsShare_Web/ReportViewer.aspx?reportName=rwb_all&layer=subbasin&eu_cd=IE_WE_30_3419

Bucklesman

Godwin by post three. :rolleyes:

The fact is that Gormley is doing his best to solve a problem left by years of poor planning. The building boom has left us with more than our fair share of one-off housing not covered by a proper sewer system.

Sponge Bob wrote: »

The report linked above has a lot of technical water related guff but the most interesting is the septic tank demographic which is referred to by the charming description of "Unsewered".

Septic tanks are supposed to be fun-size municipal waste treatment systems for the safe treatment and disposal of the waste of humans who live outside the catchment of proper sewers. Now, these tanks have to be desludged regularly or they clog up with gunk and no longer break down the waste that goes into them. If you keep on flushing without desludging, you are pumping raw sewage into the ground.

Sponge Bob wrote: »

Starting from July a mandatory desludging regime will be enforced against every septic tank....merely for being in the Corrib catchment basin.

Maybe they're concentrating on the Corrib basin because of the whole cryptosporidium thing; specifically the bit about human waste contaminating the water supply.

If your septic tank is overflowing because you haven't had it cleaned out, you are polluting the water anyone who gets their tap water from a local group water scheme or a groundwater well nearby. Or indeed the municipal water of an entire city, as we saw in Galway.

Local authorities should extend the sewers to cover the new housing, but where do you think they'll get the bucks for that? These are problems which should have been dealt with at the height of the building boom when we had cash to spend. Regulations requiring that all or most new housing be connected to municipal sewering might have even slowed development to a more sensible level.

I get where people are coming from when they talk about green-tinged pocket gouging. These are tight times and the last thing people need is another bill.

But don't lambaste the Greens for simply doing their best to clean up after the Celtic Tiger building binge. It's a dirty job, but someone has to do it.

skelliser

Why not go ask our unelected undemocratic Senator Niall O brolochain who has had the cheek to open a constituency office in galway city last week!!

Rejected twice by us yet is rewarded with a seat in the senate. And i thought the greens didnt do cronyism!!! ha!

Who is he representing with this office? - my thinks its his own ego!

The sooner these idiots are consigned to history the better.

biko

Politics or something.
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