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Reuters post production standards

  • 01-05-2010 9:52pm
    #1
    DaireQuinlan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,703 ✭✭✭


    Some might find this interesting.

    http://www.petapixel.com/2010/04/21/reuters-retracts-icelandic-volcano-photo/

    Overcooked photo on the right, I remember seeing this and thinking there was no way it should have been sent out by reuters. Sure enough, they've duly retracted it and replaced it with the ever so slightly more realistic one on the left :D


Comments

  • #2
    AnimalRights
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    Interesting.
    I'm a firm believer that news photographs should be untouched.


  • #3
    melekalikimaka
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭melekalikimaka


    did a essay on this in college. they are joke... so many photos have been manipulated to suit their stories... utter farce of a agency


  • #4
    Ghost Train
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    I guess they're not always going to be able to tell if ssomething is enhanced.

    Interesting that it wasn't the original photographer that touched it up in this case


  • #5
    joeKel73
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭joeKel73


    I've noticed a lot of heavy-HDR photos on RTE news website in the last few months, I'll see if I can dig up a few....

    EDIT: Bit awkward navigating back through the news on rte site, but here's an example...

    000248b210dr.jpg

    This looks HDR'd right? Or is it just me... :p


  • #6
    DaireQuinlan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,703 ✭✭✭DaireQuinlan


    AnimalRights wrote: »
    Interesting.
    I'm a firm believer that news photographs should be untouched.

    Ditto, for some sane definition of the word 'untouched'. Actually I'm of the firm belief that ALL photographs should remain as true to their source material as possible but in that, at least, I'm prepared to concede that others opinions might be valid.

    I guess reuters have just so much material going through their desks that they don't have time to do proper editorial work. It's obvious that this was a complete PS job, yet it was never tagged and followed up by anyone. Until of course someone raises questions over it...


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  • #7
    DougL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭DougL


    foto joe wrote: »
    I've noticed a lot of heavy-HDR photos on RTE news website in the last few months, I'll see if I can dig up a few....

    EDIT: Bit awkward navigating back through the news on rte site, but here's an example...

    000248b210dr.jpg

    This looks HDR'd right? Or is it just me... :p

    It doesn't look HDR to me, but it's hard to tell at that resolution.


  • #8
    charybdis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 802 ✭✭✭charybdis


    DaireQuinlan wrote: »
    Ditto, for some sane definition of the word 'untouched'. Actually I'm of the firm belief that ALL photographs should remain as true to their source material as possible but in that, at least, I'm prepared to concede that others opinions might be valid.

    I guess reuters have just so much material going through their desks that they don't have time to do proper editorial work. It's obvious that this was a complete PS job, yet it was never tagged and followed up by anyone. Until of course someone raises questions over it...

    Yeah. The problem lies in defining "untouched". I have yet to hear a definition that I think is reasonable.

    It's also important to bear in mind that the appearance of something in a photograph can be heavily manipulated by the composition of the image. An untouched image can still portray something very inaccurately.


  • #9
    SetOverSet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 421 ✭✭SetOverSet


    melekalikimaka wrote: »
    did a essay on this in college. they are joke... so many photos have been manipulated to suit their stories... utter farce of a agency

    Really... So all the guidelines (rules?) they have for their tog's re PPing, manipulation, etc. are just for show? Are you saying the photos are maipulated by the tog's themselves or subsequently by the pictures desk?


  • #10
    melekalikimaka
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭melekalikimaka


    SetOverSet wrote: »
    Really... So all the guidelines (rules?) they have for their tog's re PPing, manipulation, etc. are just for show? Are you saying the photos are maipulated by the tog's themselves or subsequently by the pictures desk?

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3287774,00.html


  • #11
    DaireQuinlan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,703 ✭✭✭DaireQuinlan


    charybdis wrote: »
    Yeah. The problem lies in defining "untouched". I have yet to hear a definition that I think is reasonable.

    The reuters guidelines themselves I think are reasonable enough. http://blogs.reuters.com/blog/2007/01/18/the-use-of-photoshop/ . I remember reading a similar set from AP but I can't for the life of them find them at the moment.

    And of course you're right that use of cropping or suggestive composition, or exaggerated perspective with a telephoto or WA can have a nuanced effect as well, but AFAIK that's something that is covered by current ethical guidelines as it is.

    melekalikimaka wrote: »
    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3287774,00.html

    They've had a number of fairly high profile screw ups over the last few years. I think for the most part though they seem to adhere to their own guidelines. I can imagine why an editor would scan those pictures and just OK them, the changes, while not subtle, aren't immediately obvious. The volcano picture is so obviously OTT though. I can only assume they viewed the story as being a bit of a fluff story and not worthy of proper oversight until of course they were embarrassed into an admission.


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  • #12
    melekalikimaka
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭melekalikimaka


    DaireQuinlan wrote: »


    They've had a number of fairly high profile screw ups over the last few years. I think for the most part though they seem to adhere to their own guidelines. I can imagine why an editor would scan those pictures and just OK them, the changes, while not subtle, aren't immediately obvious. The volcano picture is so obviously OTT though. I can only assume they viewed the story as being a bit of a fluff story and not worthy of proper oversight until of course they were embarrassed into an admission.


    yeah i dont think its reuters themselves intentionally, stuff is slipping under the radar me think


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