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UFC 114 Discussion
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04-05-2010 4:51am#1
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Apparently his sparring partner broke his jaw, before he ran out of the gym and has not been heard from since.
Haha
A lot of the 'weaker' UFC cards have turned out better so I have an open mind for this one.
Think it's too soon for Hathaway in what his becoming a trend of UFC throwing perfect record fighters into very hard to win fights before they're at the level required.0 -
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Will be in Vegas for this. Might try nab some tickets off dana if i can.
Was gonna hit the expo as well but have heard that the VIP tickets are best to get as then ya dont have to queue, seem to be sold out though. Any small chance anyone got one that they wont be using?
Its a long shot me knows0 -
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callaway92 wrote: »What lol? his last 2 fights went to decisions
He gave poor Bill Pharoni a good smashing though!
I'm still confused as hell why they ever brought back Baroni
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callaway92 wrote: »What lol? his last 2 fights went to decisions
Got mixed up, went back and watched some old fights, last fight I saw him in was the Hendricks fight. Which ended after a few seconds
Very exciting fighter to watch though.0 -
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MrStuffins wrote: »He gave poor Bill Pharoni a good smashing though!
I'm still confused as hell why they ever brought back Baroni
Cos he's the best eva. 0 -
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i honestly can't stand Rampage, and IMO his record recently really really flatters him, look at his 6 fights in the UFC
Win v Marvin Eastman (Well past his prime)
Win v Chuck (Again past his prime as recent performances testify too)
Win v Hendo (struggled to a 5rd points win against another fighter past his best)
Loss v Forrest (Losing to Forrest, enough said)
Win v Wandy (Another one way past his prime)
Win v Jardine (Another struggle to a points win)
He's not fought anybody who is at the top of his game since Pride when he was totally owned by Wandy (twice) and Shogun
His attitude towards fans stinks and i can't wait till Rashad knocks him the fcuk out
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i honestly can't stand Rampage, and IMO his record recently really really flatters him, look at his 6 fights in the UFC
Win v Marvin Eastman (Well past his prime)
Win v Chuck (Again past his prime as recent performances testify too)
Win v Hendo (struggled to a 5rd points win against another fighter past his best)
Loss v Forrest (Losing to Forrest, enough said)
Win v Wandy (Another one way past his prime)
Win v Jardine (Another struggle to a points win)
He's not fought anybody who is at the top of his game since Pride when he was totally owned by Wandy (twice) and Shogun
His attitude towards fans stinks and i can't wait till Rashad knocks him the fcuk out
I cant stand him either especially after his coaching stint on tuf.
I don't think his record is that bad tho.
I didn't think dan was past it when they fought and chuck even
for that matter even if chuck was champ at the time.
He was unlucky to lose to forrest and i couldnt ever see forest
pulling off a victory against rampage again.
Before machida came on the scene it looked to me that the
only guy that would definitely beat rampage was reshad.
I hope he does this time anyway and hopefully he'll strike with him.
I backed him against jardine and was sweating hard for that win.
I thought he'd have beaten jardine easier.
As for wandy, yeah! everyones beaten wandy i guess except jardine.0 -
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Ultimate Chin wrote: »Seriously?
Of course, he lost to Tito at UFC 25 and never fought in the UFC, and therefore not in MMA as the UFC has always been the only org in the world, until he fought Chuck!
It's simple! 0 -
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Youre talking to a Pride die-hard here.Don't anger me :pac:MrStuffins wrote: »Of course, he lost to Tito at UFC 25 and never fought in the UFC, and therefore not in MMA as the UFC has always been the only org in the world, until he fought Chuck!
It's simple!0 -
Ultimate Chin wrote: »Youre talking to a Pride die-hard here.Don't anger me :pac:
Pride? Whatever is a Pride?
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mailburner wrote: »sorry bout changing the subject but in the ultimate fighter finale
in june i see keith jardine is 11/10 to beat matt hamill (4/6)
only time hamill has faced a top guy was v franklin and jones
and they beat him like a dog
jardine has performed and beaten some of the best
is this just outstanding value or what?
i dont see how hamill can beat jardine although he does
have power in his hands
what do people think about the reshad/rampage fight
i thought reshad was favourite for that but hes evens
my mate thinks reshad is a cert to beat rampage
and before the machida fight id have agreed.
i just wasnt impressed with his performance against thiago silva
to be lumping on.
any opinions lads would be much appreciated.
not sure hathaway is quite ready for diego but ill have
to invest a little at 2/1
1. I would not touch Keith Jardine, he is well passed it. Sad to see his drastic decline but Bader and Hamills wrestling is top notch and Bader destroyed him. Not too mind Jardine has the weakest chin in UFC at the moment that I can think of.
2. Rashad is definately not a dead cert, inform your friend before he loses his house.;) Rashad might be able to outwrestle Rampage as Rampage hasn't fought in over a year and his cardio will definately be questioned in this fight. But if Rampage even touches Rashads jaw he will finish him. Quinton packs a far better punch than Silva and Rashad could get KO'd easily if Quinton connects, considering Thiago had him rocked badly. So the 2 likeliest outcomes IMO are that Rashad will either win by a UD from outwrestling Jackson and Rampage could win by a KO/TKO.
3. Hathaway will definately not beat Sanchez, I'm putting some serious money on this as 1/2 for Sanchez is huge! Sanchez will tear through Hathaway, so you could make a few nice pound if you back Diego
(I'd almost cover your bet if he doesn't win!)
EDIT: Just noticed that you took Jardine, I wish you luck with your bet on him but I will be taking Hamill anyway.His attitude towards fans stinks and i can't wait till Rashad knocks him the fcuk out
You are a very silly boy if you think Rashad will KO Rampage :rolleyes:0 -
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1. I would not touch Keith Jardine, he is well passed it. Sad to see his drastic decline but Bader and Hamills wrestling is top notch and Bader destroyed him. Not too mind Jardine has the weakest chin in UFC at the moment that I can think of.
2. Rashad is definately not a dead cert, inform your friend before he loses his house.;) Rashad might be able to outwrestle Rampage as Rampage hasn't fought in over a year and his cardio will definately be questioned in this fight. But if Rampage even touches Rashads jaw he will finish him. Quinton packs a far better punch than Silva and Rashad could get KO'd easily if Quinton connects, considering Thiago had him rocked badly. So the 2 likeliest outcomes IMO are that Rashad will either win by a UD from outwrestling Jackson and Rampage could win by a KO/TKO.
3. Hathaway will definately not beat Sanchez, I'm putting some serious money on this as 1/2 for Sanchez is huge! Sanchez will tear through Hathaway, so you could make a few nice pound if you back Diego (I'd almost cover your bet if he doesn't win!)
EDIT: Just noticed that you took Jardine, I wish you luck with your bet on him but I will be taking Hamill anyway.
You are a very silly boy if you think Rashad will KO Rampage :rolleyes:
I'd put bader in a different league to hamill though also.
Hamills wrestling is good but thats where it ends.
jardine did preform well against vera, chuck and rampage especially
and rampage has power.
you will lose your money on hamill imo.
hamill has nothing going for him in that division.
maybe it is a step too far for hathaway and maybe it will
come too soon. 1/2 for diego seems decent when hes only 1/3 with pp.
I have been confident bout rashad before the silva fight and
because of this id just about fancy rashad to do a gsp on rampage.
I think his cardio will be superior along with the long lay off for rampage.
The one thing i cant see is rashad knocking out rampage..i doubt he'll
even trade with him tbh
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mailburner wrote: »jardine did preform well against vera, chuck and rampage especially
and rampage has power.
I agree with you 100% on this, but that was a long time ago.Since he had that great performance against Rampage he has been non-existent. Silva KO'd him quick which you could forgive, but against Bader, although its sad to say it, he was pathetic. Bader has power but Jardine was taking alot harder shots from Rampage a year previous, same from Chuck.
I actually backed him in the Bader fight and was dissappointed to see such a gamer like Jardine get manhandled the way he did. If this was March 09 I would be picking Keith, but from what I have seen he has drastically declined since then.
All the best anyway at least one of us will win on that fight 0 -
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