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2010 Dublin Marathon Novices/Sub-4:30 Mentored Thread
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So... now that you've all had a few days to decompress, let's talk. You've all done amazingly well, and I hope you're all basking in post-marathon afterglow (and not in *too* much pain!).
Recovery
The most important thing is to listen to your body. Some people will be back doing some very easy running in the next few days, others might take a fortnight. Just see how you feel, and don't force the issue if you're not ready. I wouldn't suggest pushing the long runs too much in November, it does take a while to *completely* recover from a marathon and I really don't want to see any of you getting injured. If you have picked up an injury during DCM, I would advise you to go to the physio when you get a chance and get it checked out.
What's next?
This will differ widely between people. Your fitness will have improved drastically over the last few months, so there are definitely some shorter-distance PBs there for the taking over the winter. A few options would be the Jingle Bells 5k on 4 December, the Aware 10k on 11 December, the Waterford Half-Marathon - also on 11 December, or the Fields of Athenry 10k on 26 December. Check the A/R/T events forum for others. Some of you may already be looking to the next marathon - there is a large Boards contingent heading to Barcelona in March, and there are usually good crowds for Edinburgh, Cork and other spring/early summer races. Good luck with whatever you choose to enter, and let the PBs tumble!
To finish... a few questions.
- What do you wish you had been told before you started training for DCM?
- What would you say to people who are reading this thread now and contemplating doing their first marathon next year?
- What were your high points and low points of the whole experience?
- Do you plan on doing another marathon?
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Am I allowed to answer? Ah feck it, I've been involved enough...
- What do you wish you had been told before you started training for DCM?
That my knees definitely wouldn't cope and that I shouldn't even bother training - ok, maybe not!
- What would you say to people who are reading this thread now and contemplating doing their first marathon next year?
Get involved in a group training, particularly for the long runs. I was better prepared for this race than any other and that was mainly down to the fact that I got out of bed early on Saturday mornings and met you nutters for a few hours :pac:
- What were your high points and low points of the whole experience?
Highs: first time out with the group, seeing over 20 people coming towards me and realising it was the Boards group. Reading all the the reports here seeing so many of you achieving your first marathon finish after treating it with the respect it deserves and committing to the training. Finishing my last 20 miler with three miles at almost half marathon pace.
Low: another injury during a marathon, but that happens.
- Do you plan on doing another marathon?
No commitment just yet, but probably :pac:0 -
- What do you wish you had been told before you started training for DCM?
The only thing I would do differently is organise the LSR's in the park earlier in the programme, I think between the people here and Mr. Google I was fairly well informed by the time race day came around.(Not exactly an answer but there you go)
- What would you say to people who are reading this thread now and contemplating doing their first marathon next year?
It's one of the greatest experiences of my life, but not to be undertaken lightly
- What were your high points and low points of the whole experience?
Low points were the injuries on the LSR's, having to limp back to the car in the rain was a bummer and the not knowing before each physio session whether or not the training was over.
High point - being shouted support throughout Dublin and being part of a magnificently wholesome and positive experience.
- Do you plan on doing another marathon?
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Recovery
Chocolate cake! Three tiers with frosting and choc mousse in between. Cover it all in velvety chocolate. Place truffles all around the top and fill in with double cream. Then throw a whole load of chocolate curls on top. Yum
What's next?
Eating it
What do you wish you had been told before you started training for DCM?
That I wouldn't lose weight if I didn't give up chocolate.
What would you say to people who are reading this thread now and contemplating doing their first marathon next year?
Run Forest run
What were your high points and low points of the whole experience?
Highs:
Getting high from the natural endorphins of the long runs.
Running the trails and experiencing the natural beauty of the Phoenix Park
Meeting other runners and sharing experiences and opinions
Running the marathon. I really enjoyed the day, it couldn't have gone better.
Lows:
Not losing ANY weight
Having ugly runners feet
Not being able to cycle and climb and swim as much as I want.
Having to get up early for the marathon!
Do you plan on doing another marathon?
Of course and maybe an ultra one day too.0 -
- What do you wish you had been told before you started training for DCM?
That I would become so caught up and obsessed with it.
- What would you say to people who are reading this thread now and contemplating doing their first marathon next year?
Start training immediately. Get the miles built up in your legs now. And when you start your 16-18 week plan, don't worry so much if you have to miss a midweek run, but don't miss any LSR. They are essential.
- What were your high points and low points of the whole experience?
Highs - the whole atmosphere from start to finish, it was amazing. The relief of crossing the line.
Low - injury + tapering madness, not a good combination.
- Do you plan on doing another marathon?
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Think he's dropped off boards for now but am happy to report that 'corked' finished DCM on Monday in and about 4:19 so came in under his target of 4:20! A great result cause he had some hamstring problems along the way needing assistance from the medics.
Thought I'd post it for completeness 0 -
Brilliant report Marrona. You beat me
even though you sat down. I can't believe you had a little sit down on a bench:D
What's next up for you?
I'm going to follow Hal's 5 week recovery plan. love the plans. NEED the plans. and it'll be a nice way to wean me off Hal cos I am gonna miss his daily advice. after that, I'll reconsider my running options in december. I was considering the connemarathon (18 weeks before=dec 4th) but I start a new job the next day so don't know if it'd be a wise idea :rolleyes:0 -
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Can I ask if anyone wishes they had done more 20+ LSR's or is one sufficient? I still remain to be convinced that you can manage 6 extra miles on the day...love to hear your thoughts!
Shaz
I did 2 20milers and I'd say next time I'd deffo do 3. The second one was a bit of a disaster so at least I had done one previous to that. If you just do 1 and it doesn't go to plan, you could end up a bit paniced.
Also, towards the end of training, when the LSRs are scheduled, life happens, family happens and sometimes you end up trying to fit runs in. I would say to do 2 or 3 - purely for peace of mind alone.
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The training with one 20 miler will get you over the line, the support of the crowd works miracles and whether you realise it on the day or not, the fear of those six miles pumps adrenaline through your body. All this added to taper magic and you'll be fine. (Injuries aside)
The additional tweaks like speeding up and adding longer runs make those last six miles more comfortable (at least that's my hope)
Another thing i've learned is that you won't magically get 90 sec per mile off your LSR even if you run all of your other runs at PMP, I will be training next time on the basis that I'll run 30/40 secs faster on the day and set the speed for my LSR's and target for the marathon accordingly.0 -
Thanks guys, I really appreciate the advice.
I offiically start Hal's plan for Barca next week but am slightly ahead of schedule to fit in Waterford so was wondering whether I should schedule a couple of 20+ runs in.
Oddly enough I have no problem slowing LSR's down at the start. Good suggestion on getting quicker towards the end and moving LSR pace closer to PMP for the quicker miles.
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