2010 Dublin Marathon Novices/Sub-4:30 Mentored Thread

rainbow kirby

RayCun wrote: »

I was reading Bob Glover's Runners' Handbook, and he says you shouldn't race too often - no more than twice a month, and even that is not ideal. Racing is harder than running, and if you race too often you'll overstrain yourself and detract from training.

Honestly, I'd agree with this. While racing the shorter stuff is fun, it's not the main point of a marathon training program and can be a bit of a distraction. The race series is fine, maybe 1-2 other races (for me, that means the Pearl Izumi 10k in September because it's my local race) - but more than that and it will start to impact on the rest of your training and you may not hit your long runs as needed.

RayCun

I was looking through some old threads and found two that might be interesting for other novices

Advice for marathon novices - what I wish I knew then!

Question regarding LSRs

rainbow kirby

So - how was your week?
Name|Sessions Completed|Total Miles This Week|Comments
William72||||
wicklowwonder||||
rofno1||||
pab_lowe||||
elvis jones||||
boccy23||||
OI||||
brophya2007||||
dublinrunner||||
southofnowhere||||
robandpatrice||||
dothehustle||||
beamgirl||||
michellemuncher||||
Dave_||||
RayCun||||
littlebug||||
meathcountysec||||
DigiJem||||
8ofSpades||||
D Chief||||
curraghyid||||
la calera||||
Shazkea||||
Curl52||||


I'd also like to make a suggestion that you start thinking now about your clothes and shoes. If you have a pair of shoes that you're particularly comfortable in now, and have managed some decent LSRs in them - buy 2-3 pairs. Arnotts sale starts Wednesday @ 9am You don't want to have to make a quick change of brand later on if your shoes are banjaxed the week of your 18 or 20-miler! Same thing goes if you've got t-shirts or shorts that you particularly like for your LSRs - get a few of them. Sometimes being a creature of habit is a good thing.

rainbow kirby

19 weeks to DCM now so we're getting close to the start of the actual program. If anybody's starting 1 week early, here's the first week of the plan.
Monday | Tuesday|Wednesday|Thursday|Friday|Saturday|Sunday
rest|3 m run|3 m with 3*100m strides|3 m run|rest|cross|6


Nothing too difficult to get us started (15 miles), but we'll be building a long way from here

8ofSpades

rainbow kirby wrote: »

Monday | Tuesday|Wednesday|Thursday|Friday|Saturday|Sunday
rest|3 m run|3 m with 3*100m strides|3 m run|rest|cross|6

stupid question time....whats a stride??

I reckon I have an idea what it is and I'm sure I could google it but for the benefit or the other newbies i'll play dumbo

rainbow kirby

A stride is basically where you smoothly accelerate to race pace and then decelerate back to your normal easy pace. It's just a bit of a drill to get the legs used to a change of pace.

Article from Runner's World here

boccy23

Name|Sessions Completed|Total Miles This Week|Comments
William72||||
wicklowwonder||||
rofno1||||
pab_lowe||||
elvis jones||||
boccy23|1|5|Took it easy this week after Triathlon. Rest week waiting for the proper training. |
OI||||
brophya2007||||
dublinrunner||||
southofnowhere||||
robandpatrice||||
dothehustle||||
beamgirl||||
michellemuncher||||
Dave_||||
RayCun||||
littlebug||||
meathcountysec||||
DigiJem||||
8ofSpades||||
D Chief||||
curraghyid||||
la calera||||
Shazkea||||
Curl52||||


Recently moved onto Nike Lunarglides from Asics. Very happy with them but I presume one new pair of runners will do for this season?

rainbow kirby

boccy23 wrote: »

Recently moved onto Nike Lunarglides from Asics. Very happy with them but I presume one new pair of runners will do for this season?

Depends how much mileage you get from a pair of shoes! You'll need at least one new pair anyway before DCM. I'd keep an eye out for your shoes in summer sales, the Lunarglide 2 is due in July so you may find a bargain.

michellemuncher

Name|Sessions Completed|Total Miles This Week|Comments
William72||||
wicklowwonder||||
rofno1||||
pab_lowe||||
elvis jones||||
boccy23|1|5|Took it easy this week after Triathlon. Rest week waiting for the proper training. |
OI||||
brophya2007||||
dublinrunner||||
southofnowhere||||
robandpatrice||||
dothehustle||||
beamgirl||||
michellemuncher|2|11|I got a wee cold at the beginning of last week so could not do the women's mini marathon. I will probably do another 10k instead. Managed an 8m run today, felt great. Cycled 30 miles.|
Dave_||||
RayCun||||
littlebug||||
meathcountysec||||
DigiJem||||
8ofSpades||||
D Chief||||
curraghyid||||
la calera||||
Shazkea||||
Curl52||||

rainbow kirby

Michelle - might I suggest the Dunshaughlin 10k on the 26th? It's relatively cheap (entry is €12), and is quite popular and well-run.

OI

You're doing a fantastic job RK. Best of luck everybody, gonna start getting serious now. Keep the easy runs easy, don't over exert yourselves and risk injury. Stick to the plans as well, even of you think mileage is low in the first couple of weeks, it'll soon build up. Apologies if this stuff was mentioned before. Just speaking from a little bit of experience.

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rainbow kirby

No problem, welcome to the thread

littlebug

Name|Sessions Completed|Total Miles This Week|Comments
William72||||
wicklowwonder||||
rofno1||||
pab_lowe||||
elvis jones||||
boccy23|1|5|Took it easy this week after Triathlon. Rest week waiting for the proper training. |
OI||||
brophya2007||||
dublinrunner||||
southofnowhere||||
robandpatrice||||
dothehustle||||
beamgirl||||
michellemuncher|2|11|I got a wee cold at the beginning of last week so could not do the women's mini marathon. I will probably do another 10k instead. Managed an 8m run today, felt great. Cycled 30 miles.|
Dave_||||
RayCun||||
littlebug|5|20.4|Got my mojo back:)|
meathcountysec||||
DigiJem||||
8ofSpades||||
D Chief||||
curraghyid||||
la calera||||
Shazkea||||
Curl52||||
Figmurphy|4|15| Finished week 3 of HH novice 1 plan, miles are building, but feeling good|

RayCun

Name|Sessions Completed|Total Miles This Week|Comments
William72||||
wicklowwonder||||
rofno1||||
pab_lowe||||
elvis jones||||
boccy23|1|5|Took it easy this week after Triathlon. Rest week waiting for the proper training. |
OI||||
brophya2007||||
dublinrunner||||
southofnowhere||||
robandpatrice||||
dothehustle||||
beamgirl||||
michellemuncher|2|11|I got a wee cold at the beginning of last week so could not do the women's mini marathon. I will probably do another 10k instead. Managed an 8m run today, felt great. Cycled 30 miles.|
Dave_||||
RayCun|4|18.7|and started on the proper plan this morning...|
littlebug|5|20.4|Got my mojo back:)|
meathcountysec||||
DigiJem||||
8ofSpades||||
D Chief||||
curraghyid||||
la calera||||
Shazkea||||
Curl52||||
Figmurphy|4|15| Finished week 3 of HH novice 1 plan, miles are building, but feeling good|


Re. the strides, I did some this morning, and a tip I remember from some other thread is to accelerate up to your fast pace and hold that pace for 12 seconds. (Count "1 Mississipi, 2 Mississipi..." to make sure you don't count too fast) It's easier than estimating 100 metres and it works out about the same...

Good luck everyone!

meathcountysec

Name|Sessions Completed|Total Miles This Week|Comments
William72||||
wicklowwonder||||
rofno1||||
pab_lowe||||
elvis jones||||
boccy23|1|5|Took it easy this week after Triathlon. Rest week waiting for the proper training. |
OI||||
brophya2007||||
dublinrunner||||
southofnowhere||||
robandpatrice||||
dothehustle||||
beamgirl||||
michellemuncher|2|11|I got a wee cold at the beginning of last week so could not do the women's mini marathon. I will probably do another 10k instead. Managed an 8m run today, felt great. Cycled 30 miles.|
Dave_||||
RayCun|4|18.7|and started on the proper plan this morning...|
littlebug|5|20.4|Got my mojo back:)|
meathcountysec|4|16|Back in the saddle |
DigiJem||||
8ofSpades||||
D Chief||||
curraghyid||||
la calera||||
Shazkea||||
Curl52||||
Figmurphy|4|15| Finished week 3 of HH novice 1 plan, miles are building, but feeling good|

brophya2007

Name|Sessions Completed|Total Miles This Week|Comments
William72||||
wicklowwonder||||
rofno1||||
pab_lowe||||
elvis jones||||
boccy23|1|5|Took it easy this week after Triathlon. Rest week waiting for the proper training. |
OI||||
brophya2007|3|11|Did three runs in three days back to back and felt good. |
dublinrunner||||
southofnowhere||||
robandpatrice||||
dothehustle||||
beamgirl||||
michellemuncher|2|11|I got a wee cold at the beginning of last week so could not do the women's mini marathon. I will probably do another 10k instead. Managed an 8m run today, felt great. Cycled 30 miles.|
Dave_||||
RayCun|4|18.7|and started on the proper plan this morning...|
littlebug|5|20.4|Got my mojo back:)|
meathcountysec|4|16|Back in the saddle |
DigiJem||||
8ofSpades||||
D Chief||||
curraghyid||||
la calera||||
Shazkea||||
Curl52||||
Figmurphy|4|15| Finished week 3 of HH novice 1 plan, miles are building, but feeling good|


Is the training plan officially starting today? I was thinking of doing the ennis 10k sat 26th, would that be ok as part of the training?

digger2d2

Hope I'm not too late to join as this is exactly what I'm looking for.....

Have you raced before? If so what are your PBs? (Date and distance please!)
Started running last year and did as follows...5k (April) in 23:45, then Adidas series, 5 mile 38:13, 10 mile 1:25:41 and half marathon in 1:52:51

Do you still need to take walk breaks in your training?
No

How much training do you currently do? Distances, how many days a week, cross training - whatever you think is relevant
I'm a bit all over the place, last week ran three days and cross training one day, week before 2 days but ran twice on one day...I was running more often/further a couple of months ago but eased off waiting to start the HH 18 week plan

What do you want to achieve? Dream finishing time and realistic finishing time?
I want to break 4 hours and anything heading towards sub 3:50 would be the dream

How many days a week can you train?
As many as required

Why are you running this marathon?
To prove I've some life left in me yet!

RayCun

brophya2007 wrote: »

Is the training plan officially starting today? I was thinking of doing the ennis 10k sat 26th, would that be ok as part of the training?

The 18 week programmes would start officially next week, but I think there's a fair few of us starting a week early, to allow for stuff coming up over the next few months.
A race would usually count as equivalent effort to your long run, and thie early in the training you're not missing out on a really long run, so you should be fine.

RayCun

Welcome on board digger2d2! Which Higon plan are you following? Are you doing the race series again this year?

michellemuncher

rainbow kirby wrote: »

Michelle - might I suggest the Dunshaughlin 10k on the 26th? It's relatively cheap (entry is €12), and is quite popular and well-run.

Yes thanks, I was thinking of doing this one. On your further recommendation I probably will do it. And I'm a Meath girl too : )

8ofSpades

Name|Sessions Completed|Total Miles This Week|Comments
William72||||
wicklowwonder||||
rofno1||||
pab_lowe||||
elvis jones||||
boccy23|1|5|Took it easy this week after Triathlon. Rest week waiting for the proper training. |
OI||||
brophya2007|3|11|Did three runs in three days back to back and felt good. |
dublinrunner||||
southofnowhere||||
robandpatrice||||
dothehustle||||
beamgirl||||
michellemuncher|2|11|I got a wee cold at the beginning of last week so could not do the women's mini marathon. I will probably do another 10k instead. Managed an 8m run today, felt great. Cycled 30 miles.|
Dave_||||
RayCun|4|18.7|and started on the proper plan this morning...|
littlebug|5|20.4|Got my mojo back:)|
meathcountysec|4|16|Back in the saddle |
DigiJem||||
8ofSpades|4|23|+1 circuit +1 squash. Injury free and loving it. Fingers crossed it stays that way. Similar mileage next week then less before the strawberry half on the 27th. Hopefully this should still cover all the bases for this training regime running the half instead of that weeks LSR|
D Chief||||
curraghyid||||
la calera||||
Shazkea||||
Curl52||||
Figmurphy|4|15| Finished week 3 of HH novice 1 plan, miles are building, but feeling good|

rainbow kirby

brophya2007 wrote: »

Is the training plan officially starting today? I was thinking of doing the ennis 10k sat 26th, would that be ok as part of the training?

As has already been mentioned, the official start of an 18 week plan would be next week, but I put week 1 up this week because I know quite a few people were thinking of starting a week early. Doing a 10k race would be fine, and in fact it will give you a good indicator of your fitness at this point.

shazkea

Name|Sessions Completed|Total Miles This Week|Comments
William72||||
wicklowwonder||||
rofno1||||
pab_lowe||||
elvis jones||||
boccy23|1|5|Took it easy this week after Triathlon. Rest week waiting for the proper training. |
OI||||
brophya2007|3|11|Did three runs in three days back to back and felt good. |
dublinrunner||||
southofnowhere||||
robandpatrice||||
dothehustle||||
beamgirl||||
michellemuncher|2|11|I got a wee cold at the beginning of last week so could not do the women's mini marathon. I will probably do another 10k instead. Managed an 8m run today, felt great. Cycled 30 miles.|
Dave_||||
RayCun|4|18.7|and started on the proper plan this morning...|
littlebug|5|20.4|Got my mojo back:)|
meathcountysec|4|16|Back in the saddle |
DigiJem||||
8ofSpades|4|23|+1 circuit +1 squash. Injury free and loving it. Fingers crossed it stays that way. Similar mileage next week then less before the strawberry half on the 27th. Hopefully this should still cover all the bases for this training regime running the half instead of that weeks LSR|
D Chief||||
curraghyid||||
la calera||||
Shazkea|4|16|LSR was mini-marathon and 3 short runs. Happy enough with the week|
Curl52||||
Figmurphy|4|15| Finished week 3 of HH novice 1 plan, miles are building, but feeling good|

Starting the week early and will def try the strides. Thanks for the definition as I didn't know what it meant!!

BTW thanks for the advice on the races during the training program and the book recommendation.

digger2d2

RayCun wrote: »

Welcome on board digger2d2! Which Higon plan are you following? Are you doing the race series again this year?

Thanks RayCun - Looks like it will be Novice 2 - I've been looking for something that's geared towards 3:59:59 but maybe I'm being too specific;) The official DCM one is for 3:30 - 4:15 and there's a big difference there!

Yep, have signed up for the series again and am looking forward to trying to beat last year's times!

ilovetorun

Name|Sessions Completed|Total Miles This Week|Comments
William72||||
wicklowwonder||||
rofno1||||
pab_lowe||||
elvis jones||||
boccy23|1|5|Took it easy this week after Triathlon. Rest week waiting for the proper training. |
OI||||
brophya2007|3|11|Did three runs in three days back to back and felt good. |
dublinrunner||||
southofnowhere||||
robandpatrice||||
dothehustle||||
beamgirl||||
michellemuncher|2|11|I got a wee cold at the beginning of last week so could not do the women's mini marathon. I will probably do another 10k instead. Managed an 8m run today, felt great. Cycled 30 miles.|
Dave_||||
RayCun|4|18.7|and started on the proper plan this morning...|
littlebug|5|20.4|Got my mojo back:)|
meathcountysec|4|16|Back in the saddle |
DigiJem||||
8ofSpades|4|23|+1 circuit +1 squash. Injury free and loving it. Fingers crossed it stays that way. Similar mileage next week then less before the strawberry half on the 27th. Hopefully this should still cover all the bases for this training regime running the half instead of that weeks LSR|
D Chief||||
curraghyid||||
la calera||||
Shazkea||||
Curl52||||
Figmurphy|4|15| Finished week 3 of HH novice 1 plan, miles are building, but feeling good|
ilovetorun|4|26| Had a good week overall, I had hoped to get 5 runs done but took Friday off as I felt tired. Good LSR of 8 miles on Saturday

ilovetorun

oops! what did I do wrong?? I tried to enter in my training log for the week:(

meathcountysec

Name|Sessions Completed|Total Miles This Week|Comments
William72||||
wicklowwonder||||
rofno1||||
pab_lowe||||
elvis jones||||
boccy23|1|5|Took it easy this week after Triathlon. Rest week waiting for the proper training. |
OI||||
brophya2007|3|11|Did three runs in three days back to back and felt good. |
dublinrunner||||
southofnowhere||||
robandpatrice||||
dothehustle||||
beamgirl||||
michellemuncher|2|11|I got a wee cold at the beginning of last week so could not do the women's mini marathon. I will probably do another 10k instead. Managed an 8m run today, felt great. Cycled 30 miles.|
Dave_||||
RayCun|4|18.7|and started on the proper plan this morning...|
littlebug|5|20.4|Got my mojo back:)|
meathcountysec|4|16|Back in the saddle |
DigiJem||||
8ofSpades|4|23|+1 circuit +1 squash. Injury free and loving it. Fingers crossed it stays that way. Similar mileage next week then less before the strawberry half on the 27th. Hopefully this should still cover all the bases for this training regime running the half instead of that weeks LSR|
D Chief||||
curraghyid||||
la calera||||
Shazkea||||
Curl52||||
Figmurphy|4|15| Finished week 3 of HH novice 1 plan, miles are building, but feeling good|
ilovetorun|4|26| Had a good week overall, I had hoped to get 5 runs done but took Friday off as I felt tired. Good LSR of 8 miles on Saturday

meathcountysec

ilovetorun wrote: »

oops! what did I do wrong?? I tried to enter in my training log for the week:(

Fixed it for ye.

ilovetorun

Thanks for that meathcountysec:)
What did I do wrong? - I dont want to make the same mistake next time!

meathcountysec

ilovetorun wrote: »

Thanks for that meathcountysec:)
What did I do wrong? - I dont want to make the same mistake next time!

You seemed to have deleted the "(table][/table)" tags. Just delete the "(quote][/quote)" pair next time.

Curl52

Name
Sessions Completed
Total Miles This Week
Comments
William72
wicklowwonder
rofno1
pab_lowe
elvis jones
boccy23 1 5 Took it easy this week after Triathlon. Rest week waiting for the proper training.
OI
brophya2007 3 11 Did three runs in three days back to back and felt good.
dublinrunner
southofnowhere
robandpatrice
dothehustle
beamgirl
michellemuncher 2 11 I got a wee cold at the beginning of last week so could not do the women's mini marathon. I will probably do another 10k instead. Managed an 8m run today, felt great. Cycled 30 miles.
Dave_
RayCun 4 18.7 and started on the proper plan this morning...
littlebug 5 20.4 Got my mojo back
meathcountysec 4 16 Back in the saddle
DigiJem
8ofSpades 4 23 +1 circuit +1 squash. Injury free and loving it. Fingers crossed it stays that way. Similar mileage next week then less before the strawberry half on the 27th. Hopefully this should still cover all the bases for this training regime running the half instead of that weeks LSR
D Chief
curraghyid
la calera
Shazkea
Curl52 4 23.5 Started with mini marathon last Monday, 49.10 so was happy enough with time. Did long run on Thurs and really felt it in my thighs, hopefully back to normal this week.
Figmurphy 4 15 Finished week 3 of HH novice 1 plan, miles are building, but feeling good

Curl52

Sorry I'd the same problem as lovetorun, can't seem the quote to delete??

meathcountysec

It's going to be a long day

menoscemo

Curl52 wrote: »

Sorry I'd the same problem as lovetorun, can't seem the quote to delete??

Quote the last table.
Remove the 'Quote' from the start and end
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[/QUOTE]

Do Not remove the part which says
[..TABLE]
[.../TABLE]

Otherwise the table lines will be removed.

rainbow kirby

Name|Sessions Completed|Total Miles This Week|Comments
William72||||
wicklowwonder||||
rofno1||||
pab_lowe||||
elvis jones||||
boccy23|1|5|Took it easy this week after Triathlon. Rest week waiting for the proper training. |
OI||||
brophya2007|3|11|Did three runs in three days back to back and felt good. |
dublinrunner||||
southofnowhere||||
robandpatrice||||
dothehustle||||
beamgirl||||
michellemuncher|2|11|I got a wee cold at the beginning of last week so could not do the women's mini marathon. I will probably do another 10k instead. Managed an 8m run today, felt great. Cycled 30 miles.|
Dave_||||
RayCun|4|18.7|and started on the proper plan this morning...|
littlebug|5|20.4|Got my mojo back:)|
meathcountysec|4|16|Back in the saddle |
DigiJem||||
8ofSpades|4|23|+1 circuit +1 squash. Injury free and loving it. Fingers crossed it stays that way. Similar mileage next week then less before the strawberry half on the 27th. Hopefully this should still cover all the bases for this training regime running the half instead of that weeks LSR|
D Chief||||
curraghyid||||
la calera||||
Shazkea||||
Curl52|4|23.5| Started with mini marathon last Monday, 49.10 so was happy enough with time. Did long run on Thurs and really felt it in my thighs, hopefully back to normal this week.
Figmurphy|4|15| Finished week 3 of HH novice 1 plan, miles are building, but feeling good|
ilovetorun|4|26| Had a good week overall, I had hoped to get 5 runs done but took Friday off as I felt tired. Good LSR of 8 miles on Saturday

William72

Name|Sessions Completed|Total Miles This Week|Comments
William72|1|7.3|Second of my "holiday runs" had hoped to get 4 in but life got in the way. Back to business this week|
wicklowwonder||||
rofno1||||
pab_lowe||||
elvis jones||||
boccy23|1|5|Took it easy this week after Triathlon. Rest week waiting for the proper training. |
OI||||
brophya2007|3|11|Did three runs in three days back to back and felt good. |
dublinrunner||||
southofnowhere||||
robandpatrice||||
dothehustle||||
beamgirl||||
michellemuncher|2|11|I got a wee cold at the beginning of last week so could not do the women's mini marathon. I will probably do another 10k instead. Managed an 8m run today, felt great. Cycled 30 miles.|
Dave_||||
RayCun|4|18.7|and started on the proper plan this morning...|
littlebug|5|20.4|Got my mojo back:)|
meathcountysec|4|16|Back in the saddle |
DigiJem||||
8ofSpades|4|23|+1 circuit +1 squash. Injury free and loving it. Fingers crossed it stays that way. Similar mileage next week then less before the strawberry half on the 27th. Hopefully this should still cover all the bases for this training regime running the half instead of that weeks LSR|
D Chief||||
curraghyid||||
la calera||||
Shazkea||||
Curl52|4|23.5| Started with mini marathon last Monday, 49.10 so was happy enough with time. Did long run on Thurs and really felt it in my thighs, hopefully back to normal this week.
Figmurphy|4|15| Finished week 3 of HH novice 1 plan, miles are building, but feeling good|
ilovetorun|4|26| Had a good week overall, I had hoped to get 5 runs done but took Friday off as I felt tired. Good LSR of 8 miles on Saturday

I'm baaack! Trust you all missed me hugely . Really enjoyed reading everyone's updates this morning. So my first update in 3 weeks goes as follows:
W/C 24/5 2 runs 10.5 miles, building up the miles slowly and felt comfortable
W/C 31/5 start of 2 weeks in Portugal on hols with OH and our two little girls. Had hoped/planned to get 2 runs per week in but had an idea that would be difficult and was right. Week 1 eventually got out on the Friday for 6 miles. Went at 8am to beat the heat and failed - was bloody hot, thought I was going to die in first 2 miles but as you do found my (new slower) rhythm and got to 6 miles. Delighted with that
Last week. Same story - eventually got out on Saturday for just over 7 miles. A little more overcast but still bloody hot.

Planning to start the program proper tomorrow - after a loong journey home yesterday that seems crazy right now but I'm going to stick to the plan and have that contingency week in the bag.

ilovetorun

William 72-Running on holidays is a toughie alright, I always find I'm caught between a rock and a hard stone, I want to get a few lie-in's but need to get up early to avoid the heat!

William72

ilovetorun wrote: »

William 72-Running on holidays is a toughie alright, I always find I'm caught between a rock and a hard stone, I want to get a few lie-in's but need to get up early to avoid the heat!

Yes indeed, the odd time that I did have that choice to make it was a hard one but alas my challenges were more to do with my two darlings under 2 1/2 and me actually having to do some full time parenting

beamgirl

Name|Sessions Completed|Total Miles This Week|Comments
William72|1|7.3|Second of my "holiday runs" had hoped to get 4 in but life got in the way. Back to business this week|
wicklowwonder||||
rofno1||||
pab_lowe||||
elvis jones||||
boccy23|1|5|Took it easy this week after Triathlon. Rest week waiting for the proper training. |
OI||||
brophya2007|3|11|Did three runs in three days back to back and felt good. |
dublinrunner||||
southofnowhere||||
robandpatrice||||
dothehustle||||
beamgirl|2|14|Had a touch of the lazyitis but did 8 miles yesterday and delighted with it|
michellemuncher|2|11|I got a wee cold at the beginning of last week so could not do the women's mini marathon. I will probably do another 10k instead. Managed an 8m run today, felt great. Cycled 30 miles.|
Dave_||||
RayCun|4|18.7|and started on the proper plan this morning...|
littlebug|5|20.4|Got my mojo back:)|
meathcountysec|4|16|Back in the saddle |
DigiJem||||
8ofSpades|4|23|+1 circuit +1 squash. Injury free and loving it. Fingers crossed it stays that way. Similar mileage next week then less before the strawberry half on the 27th. Hopefully this should still cover all the bases for this training regime running the half instead of that weeks LSR|
D Chief||||
curraghyid||||
la calera||||
Shazkea||||
Curl52|4|23.5| Started with mini marathon last Monday, 49.10 so was happy enough with time. Did long run on Thurs and really felt it in my thighs, hopefully back to normal this week.
Figmurphy|4|15| Finished week 3 of HH novice 1 plan, miles are building, but feeling good|
ilovetorun|4|26| Had a good week overall, I had hoped to get 5 runs done but took Friday off as I felt tired. Good LSR of 8 miles on Saturday

D Chief

Name|Sessions Completed|Total Miles This Week|Comments
William72|1|7.3|Second of my "holiday runs" had hoped to get 4 in but life got in the way. Back to business this week|
wicklowwonder||||
rofno1||||
pab_lowe||||
elvis jones||||
boccy23|1|5|Took it easy this week after Triathlon. Rest week waiting for the proper training. |
OI||||
brophya2007|3|11|Did three runs in three days back to back and felt good. |
dublinrunner||||
southofnowhere||||
robandpatrice||||
dothehustle||||
beamgirl|2|14|Had a touch of the lazyitis but did 8 miles yesterday and delighted with it|
michellemuncher|2|11|I got a wee cold at the beginning of last week so could not do the women's mini marathon. I will probably do another 10k instead. Managed an 8m run today, felt great. Cycled 30 miles.|
Dave_||||
RayCun|4|18.7|and started on the proper plan this morning...|
littlebug|5|20.4|Got my mojo back:)|
meathcountysec|4|16|Back in the saddle |
DigiJem||||
8ofSpades|4|23|+1 circuit +1 squash. Injury free and loving it. Fingers crossed it stays that way. Similar mileage next week then less before the strawberry half on the 27th. Hopefully this should still cover all the bases for this training regime running the half instead of that weeks LSR|
D Chief|2|9|Hard to get out last week with work, travel home, time with kids, Dubs on Sunday... Hope to get into it again this week and start on the 18 week plan next week.|
curraghyid||||
la calera||||
Shazkea||||
Curl52|4|23.5| Started with mini marathon last Monday, 49.10 so was happy enough with time. Did long run on Thurs and really felt it in my thighs, hopefully back to normal this week.
Figmurphy|4|15| Finished week 3 of HH novice 1 plan, miles are building, but feeling good|
ilovetorun|4|26| Had a good week overall, I had hoped to get 5 runs done but took Friday off as I felt tired. Good LSR of 8 miles on Saturday

DigiJem

Name|Sessions Completed|Total Miles This Week|Comments
William72|1|7.3|Second of my "holiday runs" had hoped to get 4 in but life got in the way. Back to business this week|
wicklowwonder||||
rofno1||||
pab_lowe||||
elvis jones||||
boccy23|1|5|Took it easy this week after Triathlon. Rest week waiting for the proper training. |
OI||||
brophya2007|3|11|Did three runs in three days back to back and felt good. |
dublinrunner||||
southofnowhere||||
robandpatrice||||
dothehustle||||
beamgirl|2|14|Had a touch of the lazyitis but did 8 miles yesterday and delighted with it|
michellemuncher|2|11|I got a wee cold at the beginning of last week so could not do the women's mini marathon. I will probably do another 10k instead. Managed an 8m run today, felt great. Cycled 30 miles.|
Dave_||||
RayCun|4|18.7|and started on the proper plan this morning...|
littlebug|5|20.4|Got my mojo back:)|
meathcountysec|4|16|Back in the saddle |
DigiJem|4|19|ok week. mini-marathon went well, but the rest of the week was easy runs|
8ofSpades|4|23|+1 circuit +1 squash. Injury free and loving it. Fingers crossed it stays that way. Similar mileage next week then less before the strawberry half on the 27th. Hopefully this should still cover all the bases for this training regime running the half instead of that weeks LSR|
D Chief|2|9|Hard to get out last week with work, travel home, time with kids, Dubs on Sunday... Hope to get into it again this week and start on the 18 week plan next week.|
curraghyid||||
la calera||||
Shazkea||||
Curl52|4|23.5| Started with mini marathon last Monday, 49.10 so was happy enough with time. Did long run on Thurs and really felt it in my thighs, hopefully back to normal this week.
Figmurphy|4|15| Finished week 3 of HH novice 1 plan, miles are building, but feeling good|
ilovetorun|4|26| Had a good week overall, I had hoped to get 5 runs done but took Friday off as I felt tired. Good LSR of 8 miles on Saturday

dublinrunner

DigiJem wrote: »

Name|Sessions Completed|Total Miles This Week|Comments
William72|1|7.3|Second of my "holiday runs" had hoped to get 4 in but life got in the way. Back to business this week|
wicklowwonder||||
rofno1||||
pab_lowe||||
elvis jones||||
boccy23|1|5|Took it easy this week after Triathlon. Rest week waiting for the proper training. |
OI||||
brophya2007|3|11|Did three runs in three days back to back and felt good. |
dublinrunner|0|0|have had 2 and half weeks off for no reason other than pure lack of motivation....ridiculous really...i will be posting more than this next week!|
southofnowhere||||
robandpatrice||||
dothehustle||||
beamgirl|2|14|Had a touch of the lazyitis but did 8 miles yesterday and delighted with it|
michellemuncher|2|11|I got a wee cold at the beginning of last week so could not do the women's mini marathon. I will probably do another 10k instead. Managed an 8m run today, felt great. Cycled 30 miles.|
Dave_||||
RayCun|4|18.7|and started on the proper plan this morning...|
littlebug|5|20.4|Got my mojo back:)|
meathcountysec|4|16|Back in the saddle |
DigiJem|4|19|ok week. mini-marathon went well, but the rest of the week was easy runs|
8ofSpades|4|23|+1 circuit +1 squash. Injury free and loving it. Fingers crossed it stays that way. Similar mileage next week then less before the strawberry half on the 27th. Hopefully this should still cover all the bases for this training regime running the half instead of that weeks LSR|
D Chief|2|9|Hard to get out last week with work, travel home, time with kids, Dubs on Sunday... Hope to get into it again this week and start on the 18 week plan next week.|
curraghyid||||
la calera||||
Shazkea||||
Curl52|4|23.5| Started with mini marathon last Monday, 49.10 so was happy enough with time. Did long run on Thurs and really felt it in my thighs, hopefully back to normal this week.
Figmurphy|4|15| Finished week 3 of HH novice 1 plan, miles are building, but feeling good|
ilovetorun|4|26| Had a good week overall, I had hoped to get 5 runs done but took Friday off as I felt tired. Good LSR of 8 miles on Saturday

RallyRunner

Hi Guys,
Hope there's room for one more newbie. Hoping to run DCM this year, and follow the Hal Higdon novie plan.

Have you raced before? If so what are your PBs? (Date and distance please!)
Ran a few 5 mile races last year, best time of 40 mins. This year have only ran a 10K back in April finished it in 57 mins.Do you still need to take walk breaks in your training?
No How much training do you currently do? Distances, how many days a week, cross training - whatever you think is relevant
I cycle to work every day, 5 mile trip. Getting out 3 times during the week, for about 4 miles. Try to get a longer run at the weekend, but that doesn't always happen....What do you want to achieve? Dream finishing time and realistic finishing time?
Dream time would be 3:59:99, but anything around 4:30 and i'd nearly do a lap of honour.How many days a week can you train?
5 days a week. Plan to follow the Hal Higdon novice schedule.
Why are you running this marathon?
It's something I've always aspired to, but could never commit to the training. This year I have a very personal reason for taking this on, and motivation will not be a problem. Now all I have to do is stay injury free.

RayCun

The more the merrier! Good luck in the training

8ofSpades

Can I throw in a discussion topic?
I know it may have been discussed in other threads but would like to put peoples views in to this one as well
as everyone on this thread is probably a complete noob when it comes to running.

Nutrition:

What kind of foods should I be eating / avoiding?
Apart from avoiding possibly obvious choices like pizza, chips, burgers etc what else do people recommend
to avoid?

I hear food terminology such as carbs, proteins etc
But in laymans terms what foodstuff is good for carb intake or is full of protein etc.

People also recommend carb loading before a race.
What is this exactly and how much and how soon before a race should I be doing this.

The more information the better as I'm sure it extends way beyond my few points above.
And while everyone's needs may be different I'm sure a general outline of what to do would be beneficial.

RayCun

Avoid all the stuff you already know is unhealthy

(stuff I read in The Runner's Handbook- )
There are two sources of energy you use when you're running, carbs and fat. Carbs are much easier for your body to process as energy, and the energy is stored directly in your muscles, which is good. As you run, this energy in your musles is depleted. Part of what you're doing on long runs is teaching your body to get better at burning some fat too, when it's needed. (Energy gels have a lot of carbs in them, which is why they're used on long runs)

Carb loading means eating more carb sources in the day or two before a race, to make sure that the energy stores in your muscles are full. The best time is lunchtime the day before the race (if the race is in the morning), so all us novices should meet up for a pasta lunch on October 24th)

It's also a good idea to get some carbs into you very soon after a run.

Here's a list of complex carbohydrate sources - pasta, rice, potatoes, bread, that kind of thing.

menoscemo

After a particularly long or Tough run (e.g a race), the Glycogen stores in your muscles and liver will be depleted and your muscles damaged. It is therefore important to consume some quick release carbs (to replace Glycogen) and protein (to repair damaged muscle). Doing this immediately (within 15 minutes-half an hour is recommended) after your run will aid your bodies recovery and reduce DOMs and Stiffness. Eating something like a ham sandwich straight after your run would be ideal. However the good news is that at this stage something sugary is fine. What has been particularly recommended by some of the top runners in this forum is chocolate milk (e.g Yazoo or Mars Recovery drink) they have the perfect post race ration of 4:1 carbs: protein and more importantly are delicious .

I have been taking these immediately after my tough sessions/races for the last few months and feel amazingly fresh the next day. However, don't do this after every small run, just very long or tough ones (e.g tempo sessions, races, long LSR's) where you have really pushed you body to it's limits.

curraghyid

dublinrunner wrote: »

DigiJem wrote: »

Name|Sessions Completed|Total Miles This Week|Comments
William72|1|7.3|Second of my "holiday runs" had hoped to get 4 in but life got in the way. Back to business this week|
wicklowwonder||||
rofno1||||
pab_lowe||||
elvis jones||||
boccy23|1|5|Took it easy this week after Triathlon. Rest week waiting for the proper training. |
OI||||
brophya2007|3|11|Did three runs in three days back to back and felt good. |
dublinrunner|0|0|have had 2 and half weeks off for no reason other than pure lack of motivation....ridiculous really...i will be posting more than this next week!|
southofnowhere||||
robandpatrice||||
dothehustle||||
beamgirl|2|14|Had a touch of the lazyitis but did 8 miles yesterday and delighted with it|
michellemuncher|2|11|I got a wee cold at the beginning of last week so could not do the women's mini marathon. I will probably do another 10k instead. Managed an 8m run today, felt great. Cycled 30 miles.|
Dave_||||
RayCun|4|18.7|and started on the proper plan this morning...|
littlebug|5|20.4|Got my mojo back:)|
meathcountysec|4|16|Back in the saddle |
DigiJem|4|19|ok week. mini-marathon went well, but the rest of the week was easy runs|
8ofSpades|4|23|+1 circuit +1 squash. Injury free and loving it. Fingers crossed it stays that way. Similar mileage next week then less before the strawberry half on the 27th. Hopefully this should still cover all the bases for this training regime running the half instead of that weeks LSR|
D Chief|2|9|Hard to get out last week with work, travel home, time with kids, Dubs on Sunday... Hope to get into it again this week and start on the 18 week plan next week.|
curraghyid|4|19|back after injury lsr 7m went well getting better at slow pace first week of hh novice starts proper this week|
la calera||||
Shazkea||||
Curl52|4|23.5| Started with mini marathon last Monday, 49.10 so was happy enough with time. Did long run on Thurs and really felt it in my thighs, hopefully back to normal this week.
Figmurphy|4|15| Finished week 3 of HH novice 1 plan, miles are building, but feeling good|
ilovetorun|4|26| Had a good week overall, I had hoped to get 5 runs done but took Friday off as I felt tired. Good LSR of 8 miles on Saturday

rainbow kirby

Nutrition is not exactly my strong point, but I'll have a go.

8ofSpades wrote: »

What kind of foods should I be eating / avoiding?
Apart from avoiding possibly obvious choices like pizza, chips, burgers etc what else do people recommend
to avoid?

There are no absolutes really in terms of what you should avoid - though if you know that there is some food that causes you GI issues when running then it's probably best to avoid it. Try and keep your diet as healthy as possible - lots of veg, wholegrains, lean meat etc. It's also useful to find out what works for you as a good breakfast before long runs.

You should probably look too at reducing your alcohol intake as training progresses, long runs with a hangover are not fun at all, plus alcohol dehydrates you quite badly.

8ofSpades wrote: »

I hear food terminology such as carbs, proteins etc
But in laymans terms what foodstuff is good for carb intake or is full of protein etc.

RayCun's given a good list of complex carbohydrates. Protein generally comes from lean meat, beans, nuts, soya products, eggs etc. A runner's diet is naturally going to be higher in carbs than that of most people over in the Fitness forum, but don't neglect protein and "good" fats (oily fish, avocados, coconut, peanut butter etc) either.

8ofSpades wrote: »

People also recommend carb loading before a race.
What is this exactly and how much and how soon before a race should I be doing this.

Carb loading just means increasing the amount of carbohydrates in your diet in the days before the race. The idea of a pasta lunch the day before it is pretty good actually

My 2c on the issue - A big change in diet in the days before any race can unsettle your stomach. Unfortunately I found this out the hard way at my most recent 10k. :mad:
I would suggest that you just try to increase the amount of carbohydrates in your normal diet and don't go out of your way to cut anything out. Feel free to disagree with me on this one though, just my experience.