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2010 Dublin Marathon Novices/Sub-4:30 Mentored Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭michellemuncher


    8ofSpades wrote: »
    I hear food terminology such as carbs, proteins etc But in laymans terms what foodstuff is good for carb intake or is full of protein etc.

    I have been taking running seriously for about a year now and have learned so much but it takes time to fully understand everything. Carbohydrates come in 2 forms; Starch/Complex (cereals, pasta, potatoes) and Sugar/Simple (deserts, fruits, sports drink). Then the body converts these to glucose which is stored throughout the body if it is not needed straight away. A light carb-rich meal like fruit and yoghurt is ideal before a run but should be eaten at least 2 hours before so it is fully digested. During a long or intense run, a lot of people take simple easily digestible carbs in the form of a sports drink or gels. And then after a run eat a carb/protein mix like a sports bar or beans on toast. And later on for a good proper dinner, I personally love my pasta and potatoes for carbs and Quorn, beans and lentils for protein. Proteins are made up of amino acids and some are essential because the body cannot make them. Meat and dairy products contain all the essential amino acids. As a vegetarian I find Quinoa great as it contains a high percentage of carbs and nearly all the essential amino acids.

    Here is a link for general nutritional info.
    http://www.ext.colostate.edu/pubs/foodnut/09362.html

    And for a really good article on the sciencey bit (lots of bits) which I got from one of the links Raycun linked to. I thought it was so informative it was worth posting again in case anyone missed it.
    http://www.marathonandbeyond.com/choices/latta.htm

    Oh and bananas, if you don't love them now, you will when the marathon is over!




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 298 ✭✭brophya2007


    Hey all,

    I've decided to start the programme this week so that there is a contingency week in case of injury/unforseen circumstances etc.

    Onto the weekend - i presume it's fine to interchange lsr and cross training days?

    With regards cross training is it ok to do a short slow run as cross training - another 3 miles for example?

    Or would I be better going to the gym, was thinking of doing 10 mins of exercise bike, rowing and cross trainer and then building up over the weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    It's fine at this stage to do a short, easy run (I wouldn't really suggest more than 30 minutes though, you want this to be an easy, relatively relaxing day) - but as things go on you may want to get off your feet on your cross-training day and do something lower-impact such as a cycle, swim or using the cardio machines at the gym.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭James Howlett


    Hello all,

    Sorry for the late addition, I have only just discovered this thread.
    Allow me to...
    • Have you raced before? If so what are your PBs? (Date and distance please!)
    I have been doing different races on and off for years.
    My PB would be last the 2009 Great Ireland Run with 43:24.
    I had hoped to beat that with the December 2009 Aware 10k... I did finish that 9k race with 36minutes if I remember correctly but i won't count it as it wasn't the full 10k.
    • Do you still need to take walk breaks in your training?
    No sir.
    • How much training do you currently do? Distances, how many days a week, cross training - whatever you think is relevant
    Currently it has not been great, once, twice a week if lucky.
    2010 has been a bad year but I'm getting ready as I want this.
    • What do you want to achieve? Dream finishing time and realistic finishing time?
    Dream: Under 3 hours. Even 2:59:59 would do:)
    (I know this isn't achievable with my first marathon so it's more of a long-term dream time).
    Realistic: No idea. I can push myself pretty hard but don't want to end up training for 4 months and sitting it out due to injury.
    • How many days a week can you train?
    I'll make time to fit in whatever is necessary, before or after work.
    • Why are you running this marathon?
    Two reasons:
    My Mother-in-Law passed away this year from Cancer so I will also be doing it for her in aid of the Irish Cancer Society.

    I also enjoy running quite a lot and I have always seen completing a marathon as a worthwhile life achievement.

    Thanks :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    Another week down - week 1 of the program for some of you! How did you get on?
    Name|Sessions Completed|Total Miles This Week|Comments
    William72||||
    wicklowwonder||||
    rofno1||||
    pab_lowe||||
    elvis jones||||
    boccy23||||
    OI||||
    brophya2007||| |
    dublinrunner||||
    southofnowhere||||
    robandpatrice||||
    dothehustle||||
    beamgirl||||
    michellemuncher||||
    Dave_||||
    RayCun||||
    littlebug||||
    meathcountysec||||
    DigiJem||||
    8ofSpades||||
    D Chief||||
    curraghyid||||
    la calera||||
    Shazkea||||
    Curl52||||
    Figmurphy||||
    ilovetorun||||
    James Howlett||||


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    And in terms of the plan:

    Week 1
    Monday | Tuesday|Wednesday|Thursday|Friday|Saturday|Sunday
    rest|3 m run|3 m with 3*100m strides|3 m run|rest|cross|6 m


    Week 2
    Monday | Tuesday|Wednesday|Thursday|Friday|Saturday|Sunday
    rest|3 m|3 m with 3*100m strides|3 m|rest|cross|7 m


    Still nothing too hectic, but there is a long way to go!

    My discussion topic for this week: Bad running days. How do you handle them? Do you let them get to you, or just forget about them and move on?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    Name|Sessions Completed|Total Miles This Week|Comments
    William72||||
    wicklowwonder||||
    rofno1||||
    pab_lowe||||
    elvis jones||||
    boccy23||||
    OI||||
    brophya2007||| |
    dublinrunner||||
    southofnowhere||||
    robandpatrice||||
    dothehustle||||
    beamgirl||||
    michellemuncher||||
    Dave_||||
    RayCun|4|20.3|first week down, 18 to go...|
    littlebug||||
    meathcountysec||||
    DigiJem||||
    8ofSpades||||
    D Chief||||
    curraghyid||||
    la calera||||
    Shazkea||||
    Curl52||||
    Figmurphy||||
    ilovetorun||||
    James Howlett||||

    Part of the reason why I started keeping a training log on here was that writing things down can help you forget things - when you know there's a record kept somewhere, it gives your brain permission to forget. So I think about the run for a couple of minutes when I'm updating, and then I can move on. But, thre record is also there for me to look back at later and maybe see patterns that I could learn from.
    But in general - remember the good runs, remember getting through the bad runs...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 180 ✭✭8ofSpades


    Name|Sessions Completed|Total Miles This Week|Comments
    William72||||
    wicklowwonder||||
    rofno1||||
    pab_lowe||||
    elvis jones||||
    boccy23||||
    OI||||
    brophya2007||| |
    dublinrunner||||
    southofnowhere||||
    robandpatrice||||
    dothehustle||||
    beamgirl||||
    michellemuncher||||
    Dave_||||
    RayCun|4|20.3|first week down, 18 to go...|
    littlebug||||
    meathcountysec||||
    DigiJem||||
    8ofSpades|3|16|+1 Circuit. Ran my final LSR before the strawberry half this sunday. 8 miles in 01:23:00. Cons: Based on that my sub 2hr prediction for the half looks like a pipe dream but I tried even if I was keeping it slow and steady I was still knackered after it. Pros: That was saturday morning and I had run the previous night also, plus there will be pacers so I'm not going down without a fight next Sunday|
    D Chief||||
    curraghyid||||
    la calera||||
    Shazkea||||
    Curl52||||
    Figmurphy||||
    ilovetorun||||
    James Howlett||||

    I dont let bad sessions get to me for too long.
    Probably stay p***ed for the evening or a few hours and try to analyse where it all went wrong.
    After that I let it slide.
    I try not to dwell on the past too long for all things in life.
    Whats done is done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 298 ✭✭brophya2007


    Name|Sessions Completed|Total Miles This Week|Comments
    William72||||
    wicklowwonder||||
    rofno1||||
    pab_lowe||||
    elvis jones||||
    boccy23||||
    OI||||
    brophya2007|4|17.63|LSR of 6 miles in 59 minutes, was feeling it doing the last mile, it's the longest I've run in a while. Only 18 weeks to go :-) |
    dublinrunner||||
    southofnowhere||||
    robandpatrice||||
    dothehustle||||
    beamgirl||||
    michellemuncher||||
    Dave_||||
    RayCun|4|20.3|first week down, 18 to go...|
    littlebug||||
    meathcountysec||||
    DigiJem||||
    8ofSpades|3|16|+1 Circuit. Ran my final LSR before the strawberry half this sunday. 8 miles in 01:23:00. Cons: Based on that my sub 2hr prediction for the half looks like a pipe dream but I tried even if I was keeping it slow and steady I was still knackered after it. Pros: That was saturday morning and I had run the previous night also, plus there will be pacers so I'm not going down without a fight next Sunday|
    D Chief||||
    curraghyid||||
    la calera||||
    Shazkea||||
    Curl52||||
    Figmurphy||||
    ilovetorun||||
    James Howlett||||


    When I have a bad run I feel really angry and doubt myself and dread the next run. But if that's a good run the previous one is forgotten about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 180 ✭✭8ofSpades


    Name|Sessions Completed|Total Miles This Week|Comments
    William72||||
    wicklowwonder||||
    rofno1||||
    pab_lowe||||
    elvis jones||||
    boccy23||||
    OI||||
    brophya2007|4|17.63|LSR of 6 miles in 59 minutes, was feeling it doing the last mile, it's the longest I've run in a while. Only 18 weeks to go :-) |
    dublinrunner||||
    southofnowhere||||
    robandpatrice||||
    dothehustle||||
    beamgirl||||
    michellemuncher||||
    Dave_||||
    RayCun|4|20.3|first week down, 18 to go...|
    littlebug||||
    meathcountysec||||
    DigiJem||||
    8ofSpades|3|16|+1 Circuit. Ran my final LSR before the strawberry half this sunday. 8 miles in 01:23:00. Cons: Based on that my sub 2hr prediction for the half looks like a pipe dream but I was tired even if I was keeping it slow and steady I was still knackered after it. Pros: That was saturday morning and I had run the previous night also, plus there will be pacers so I'm not going down without a fight next Sunday|
    D Chief||||
    curraghyid||||
    la calera||||
    Shazkea||||
    Curl52||||
    Figmurphy||||
    ilovetorun||||
    James Howlett||||


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,832 ✭✭✭littlebug


    Name|Sessions Completed|Total Miles This Week|Comments
    William72||||
    wicklowwonder||||
    rofno1||||
    pab_lowe||||
    elvis jones||||
    boccy23||||
    OI||||
    brophya2007|4|17.63|LSR of 6 miles in 59 minutes, was feeling it doing the last mile, it's the longest I've run in a while. Only 18 weeks to go :-) |
    dublinrunner||||
    southofnowhere||||
    robandpatrice||||
    dothehustle||||
    beamgirl||||
    michellemuncher||||
    Dave_||||
    RayCun|4|20.3|first week down, 18 to go...|
    littlebug|4|19.2|Happy with this week|
    meathcountysec||||
    DigiJem||||
    8ofSpades|3|16|+1 Circuit. Ran my final LSR before the strawberry half this sunday. 8 miles in 01:23:00. Cons: Based on that my sub 2hr prediction for the half looks like a pipe dream but I was tired even if I was keeping it slow and steady I was still knackered after it. Pros: That was saturday morning and I had run the previous night also, plus there will be pacers so I'm not going down without a fight next Sunday|
    D Chief||||
    curraghyid||||
    la calera||||
    Shazkea||||
    Curl52||||
    Figmurphy||||
    ilovetorun||||
    James Howlett||||

    I don't have bad days - I have bad weeks :( which makes it very hard to stay motivated. On the bad weeks I push myself to do things like go for a run on my favourite routes and enjoy the view or whatever so the psychological impact of a bad run is reduced.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,136 ✭✭✭boccy23


    Name|Sessions Completed|Total Miles This Week|Comments
    William72||||
    wicklowwonder||||
    rofno1||||
    pab_lowe||||
    elvis jones||||
    boccy23|4|17.5|Great to have it started. The plan makes it easier to get out and do it!|
    OI||||
    brophya2007|4|17.63|LSR of 6 miles in 59 minutes, was feeling it doing the last mile, it's the longest I've run in a while. Only 18 weeks to go :-) |
    dublinrunner||||
    southofnowhere||||
    robandpatrice||||
    dothehustle||||
    beamgirl||||
    michellemuncher||||
    Dave_||||
    RayCun|4|20.3|first week down, 18 to go...|
    littlebug|4|19.2|Happy with this week|
    meathcountysec||||
    DigiJem||||
    8ofSpades|3|16|+1 Circuit. Ran my final LSR before the strawberry half this sunday. 8 miles in 01:23:00. Cons: Based on that my sub 2hr prediction for the half looks like a pipe dream but I was tired even if I was keeping it slow and steady I was still knackered after it. Pros: That was saturday morning and I had run the previous night also, plus there will be pacers so I'm not going down without a fight next Sunday|
    D Chief||||
    curraghyid||||
    la calera||||
    Shazkea||||
    Curl52||||
    Figmurphy||||
    ilovetorun||||
    James Howlett||||

    Bad runs are not too often. I try and push through when doing it and suffer later!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 225 ✭✭ilovetorun


    Name|Sessions Completed|Total Miles This Week|Comments
    William72||||
    wicklowwonder||||
    rofno1||||
    pab_lowe||||
    elvis jones||||
    boccy23|4|17.5|Great to have it started. The plan makes it easier to get out and do it!|
    OI||||
    brophya2007|4|17.63|LSR of 6 miles in 59 minutes, was feeling it doing the last mile, it's the longest I've run in a while. Only 18 weeks to go :-) |
    dublinrunner||||
    southofnowhere||||
    robandpatrice||||
    dothehustle||||
    beamgirl||||
    michellemuncher||||
    Dave_||||
    RayCun|4|20.3|first week down, 18 to go...|
    littlebug|4|19.2|Happy with this week|
    meathcountysec||||
    DigiJem||||
    8ofSpades|3|16|+1 Circuit. Ran my final LSR before the strawberry half this sunday. 8 miles in 01:23:00. Cons: Based on that my sub 2hr prediction for the half looks like a pipe dream but I was tired even if I was keeping it slow and steady I was still knackered after it. Pros: That was saturday morning and I had run the previous night also, plus there will be pacers so I'm not going down without a fight next Sunday|
    D Chief||||
    curraghyid||||
    la calera||||
    Shazkea||||
    Curl52||||
    Figmurphy||||
    ilovetorun|5|32|Delighted with this week,really enjoyed getting out in the good weather,going for a sports massage tomorrow just to keep ontop of things|
    James Howlett||||

    I am very tough on myself when I do a bad run, I try to forget about it and look forward to improving on my next run but this doesn't always happen so then I start to doubt myself and question will I really be able to run a marathon in October. I sometimes run with my other half and he is brilliant for support and encouragement so that really helps


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 304 ✭✭William72


    Name|Sessions Completed|Total Miles This Week|Comments
    William72|4|15.5|On the plus side great to have started the program and got 4 sessions in for the first time in weeks. On the negative side - did all 4 runs at unusual times for me so found the heat to be quite draining. Look forward to getting back to early mornings/late evenings this week|
    wicklowwonder||||
    rofno1||||
    pab_lowe||||
    elvis jones||||
    boccy23|4|17.5|Great to have it started. The plan makes it easier to get out and do it!|
    OI||||
    brophya2007|4|17.63|LSR of 6 miles in 59 minutes, was feeling it doing the last mile, it's the longest I've run in a while. Only 18 weeks to go :-) |
    dublinrunner||||
    southofnowhere||||
    robandpatrice||||
    dothehustle||||
    beamgirl||||
    michellemuncher||||
    Dave_||||
    RayCun|4|20.3|first week down, 18 to go...|
    littlebug|4|19.2|Happy with this week|
    meathcountysec||||
    DigiJem||||
    8ofSpades|3|16|+1 Circuit. Ran my final LSR before the strawberry half this sunday. 8 miles in 01:23:00. Cons: Based on that my sub 2hr prediction for the half looks like a pipe dream but I was tired even if I was keeping it slow and steady I was still knackered after it. Pros: That was saturday morning and I had run the previous night also, plus there will be pacers so I'm not going down without a fight next Sunday|
    D Chief||||
    curraghyid||||
    la calera||||
    Shazkea||||
    Curl52||||
    Figmurphy||||
    ilovetorun|5|32|Delighted with this week,really enjoyed getting out in the good weather,going for a sports massage tomorrow just to keep ontop of things|
    James Howlett||||

    Tend not to dwell too much on bad runs to be honest - maybe I'm still so new to this that I'm just glad to get the req'd distance finished :) Also whenever I have a bad one I know the next one (or the one after that) will restore my faith in the whole thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,450 ✭✭✭meathcountysec


    Name|Sessions Completed|Total Miles This Week|Comments
    William72|4|15.5|On the plus side great to have started the program and got 4 sessions in for the first time in weeks. On the negative side - did all 4 runs at unusual times for me so found the heat to be quite draining. Look forward to getting back to early mornings/late evenings this week|
    wicklowwonder||||
    rofno1||||
    pab_lowe||||
    elvis jones||||
    boccy23|4|17.5|Great to have it started. The plan makes it easier to get out and do it!|
    OI||||
    brophya2007|4|17.63|LSR of 6 miles in 59 minutes, was feeling it doing the last mile, it's the longest I've run in a while. Only 18 weeks to go :-) |
    dublinrunner||||
    southofnowhere||||
    robandpatrice||||
    dothehustle||||
    beamgirl||||
    michellemuncher||||
    Dave_||||
    RayCun|4|20.3|first week down, 18 to go...|
    littlebug|4|19.2|Happy with this week|
    meathcountysec|4|24.12|A good week. Still not getting the 5th run in though|
    DigiJem||||
    8ofSpades|3|16|+1 Circuit. Ran my final LSR before the strawberry half this sunday. 8 miles in 01:23:00. Cons: Based on that my sub 2hr prediction for the half looks like a pipe dream but I was tired even if I was keeping it slow and steady I was still knackered after it. Pros: That was saturday morning and I had run the previous night also, plus there will be pacers so I'm not going down without a fight next Sunday|
    D Chief||||
    curraghyid||||
    la calera||||
    Shazkea||||
    Curl52||||
    Figmurphy||||
    ilovetorun|5|32|Delighted with this week,really enjoyed getting out in the good weather,going for a sports massage tomorrow just to keep ontop of things|
    James Howlett||||

    Tend not to think too much about past runs. Sometimes let the "enormity" of the current one get to me though and defeat myself before I get started.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 147 ✭✭beamgirl


    Name|Sessions Completed|Total Miles This Week|Comments
    William72|4|15.5|On the plus side great to have started the program and got 4 sessions in for the first time in weeks. On the negative side - did all 4 runs at unusual times for me so found the heat to be quite draining. Look forward to getting back to early mornings/late evenings this week|
    wicklowwonder||||
    rofno1||||
    pab_lowe||||
    elvis jones||||
    boccy23|4|17.5|Great to have it started. The plan makes it easier to get out and do it!|
    OI||||
    brophya2007|4|17.63|LSR of 6 miles in 59 minutes, was feeling it doing the last mile, it's the longest I've run in a while. Only 18 weeks to go :-) |
    dublinrunner||||
    southofnowhere||||
    robandpatrice||||
    dothehustle||||
    beamgirl|3|18|6+3+9 finally getting some long runs in|
    michellemuncher||||
    Dave_||||
    RayCun|4|20.3|first week down, 18 to go...|
    littlebug|4|19.2|Happy with this week|
    meathcountysec|4|24.12|A good week. Still not getting the 5th run in though|
    DigiJem||||
    8ofSpades|3|16|+1 Circuit. Ran my final LSR before the strawberry half this sunday. 8 miles in 01:23:00. Cons: Based on that my sub 2hr prediction for the half looks like a pipe dream but I was tired even if I was keeping it slow and steady I was still knackered after it. Pros: That was saturday morning and I had run the previous night also, plus there will be pacers so I'm not going down without a fight next Sunday|
    D Chief||||
    curraghyid||||
    la calera||||
    Shazkea||||
    Curl52||||
    Figmurphy||||
    ilovetorun|5|32|Delighted with this week,really enjoyed getting out in the good weather,going for a sports massage tomorrow just to keep ontop of things|
    James Howlett||||

    With bad runs I always try and finish them I have a fear that if I stop then the next race/run i'll stop too, even they're finished at a snails pace I always try and finish


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 225 ✭✭ilovetorun


    I totally agree with you Beamgirl, the worst mistake I ever made was stopping during a hard 10km race (still not sure why though) it really dented my confidence. So since then I have learnt to keep running even if I'm barely moving!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 151 ✭✭rofno1


    Name|Sessions Completed|Total Miles This Week|Comments
    William72|4|15.5|On the plus side great to have started the program and got 4 sessions in for the first time in weeks. On the negative side - did all 4 runs at unusual times for me so found the heat to be quite draining. Look forward to getting back to early mornings/late evenings this week|
    wicklowwonder||||
    rofno1|2|8|Holidays over now:( so time to get with the programme, starting with 3 miles tomorrow!:)|
    pab_lowe||||
    elvis jones||||
    boccy23|4|17.5|Great to have it started. The plan makes it easier to get out and do it!|
    OI||||
    brophya2007|4|17.63|LSR of 6 miles in 59 minutes, was feeling it doing the last mile, it's the longest I've run in a while. Only 18 weeks to go :-) |
    dublinrunner||||
    southofnowhere||||
    robandpatrice||||
    dothehustle||||
    beamgirl|3|18|6+3+9 finally getting some long runs in|
    michellemuncher||||
    Dave_||||
    RayCun|4|20.3|first week down, 18 to go...|
    littlebug|4|19.2|Happy with this week|
    meathcountysec|4|24.12|A good week. Still not getting the 5th run in though|
    DigiJem||||
    8ofSpades|3|16|+1 Circuit. Ran my final LSR before the strawberry half this sunday. 8 miles in 01:23:00. Cons: Based on that my sub 2hr prediction for the half looks like a pipe dream but I was tired even if I was keeping it slow and steady I was still knackered after it. Pros: That was saturday morning and I had run the previous night also, plus there will be pacers so I'm not going down without a fight next Sunday|
    D Chief||||
    curraghyid||||
    la calera||||
    Shazkea||||
    Curl52||||
    Figmurphy||||
    ilovetorun|5|32|Delighted with this week,really enjoyed getting out in the good weather,going for a sports massage tomorrow just to keep ontop of things|
    James Howlett||||


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭DigiJem


    Name|Sessions Completed|Total Miles This Week|Comments
    William72|4|15.5|On the plus side great to have started the program and got 4 sessions in for the first time in weeks. On the negative side - did all 4 runs at unusual times for me so found the heat to be quite draining. Look forward to getting back to early mornings/late evenings this week|
    wicklowwonder||||
    rofno1|2|8|Holidays over now:( so time to get with the programme, starting with 3 miles tomorrow!:)|
    pab_lowe||||
    elvis jones||||
    boccy23|4|17.5|Great to have it started. The plan makes it easier to get out and do it!|
    OI||||
    brophya2007|4|17.63|LSR of 6 miles in 59 minutes, was feeling it doing the last mile, it's the longest I've run in a while. Only 18 weeks to go :-) |
    dublinrunner||||
    southofnowhere||||
    robandpatrice||||
    dothehustle||||
    beamgirl|3|18|6+3+9 finally getting some long runs in|
    michellemuncher||||
    Dave_||||
    RayCun|4|20.3|first week down, 18 to go...|
    littlebug|4|19.2|Happy with this week|
    meathcountysec|4|24.12|A good week. Still not getting the 5th run in though|
    DigiJem|4|17|Nice week of late evening running in the sun.|
    8ofSpades|3|16|+1 Circuit. Ran my final LSR before the strawberry half this sunday. 8 miles in 01:23:00. Cons: Based on that my sub 2hr prediction for the half looks like a pipe dream but I was tired even if I was keeping it slow and steady I was still knackered after it. Pros: That was saturday morning and I had run the previous night also, plus there will be pacers so I'm not going down without a fight next Sunday|
    D Chief||||
    curraghyid||||
    la calera||||
    Shazkea||||
    Curl52||||
    Figmurphy||||
    ilovetorun|5|32|Delighted with this week,really enjoyed getting out in the good weather,going for a sports massage tomorrow just to keep ontop of things|
    James Howlett||||

    Bad runs, I try to move on, checking back on my training logs always works, just to remind myself how many good runs I've had.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,957 ✭✭✭digger2d2


    DigiJem;66518814]Name|Sessions Completed|Total Miles This Week|Comments
    William72|4|15.5|On the plus side great to have started the program and got 4 sessions in for the first time in weeks. On the negative side - did all 4 runs at unusual times for me so found the heat to be quite draining. Look forward to getting back to early mornings/late evenings this week|
    wicklowwonder||||
    rofno1|2|8|Holidays over now:( so time to get with the programme, starting with 3 miles tomorrow!:)|
    pab_lowe||||
    elvis jones||||
    boccy23|4|17.5|Great to have it started. The plan makes it easier to get out and do it!|
    OI||||
    brophya2007|4|17.63|LSR of 6 miles in 59 minutes, was feeling it doing the last mile, it's the longest I've run in a while. Only 18 weeks to go :-) |
    dublinrunner||||
    southofnowhere||||
    robandpatrice||||
    dothehustle||||
    beamgirl|3|18|6+3+9 finally getting some long runs in|
    michellemuncher||||
    Dave_||||
    RayCun|4|20.3|first week down, 18 to go...|
    littlebug|4|19.2|Happy with this week|
    meathcountysec|4|24.12|A good week. Still not getting the 5th run in though|
    DigiJem|4|17|Nice week of late evening running in the sun.|
    8ofSpades|3|16|+1 Circuit. Ran my final LSR before the strawberry half this sunday. 8 miles in 01:23:00. Cons: Based on that my sub 2hr prediction for the half looks like a pipe dream but I was tired even if I was keeping it slow and steady I was still knackered after it. Pros: That was saturday morning and I had run the previous night also, plus there will be pacers so I'm not going down without a fight next Sunday|
    D Chief||||
    curraghyid||||
    digger2d2|4|20.5| enjoyable week, have set my marathon pace at 8:45 a mile so lsr was done this week at 9;12, 2 'cross' sessions done as well|
    la calera||||
    Shazkea||||
    Curl52||||
    Figmurphy||||
    ilovetorun|5|32|Delighted with this week,really enjoyed getting out in the good weather,going for a sports massage tomorrow just to keep ontop of things|
    James Howlett||||


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 345 ✭✭curraghyid


    Name|Sessions Completed|Total Miles This Week|Comments
    William72|4|15.5|On the plus side great to have started the program and got 4 sessions in for the first time in weeks. On the negative side - did all 4 runs at unusual times for me so found the heat to be quite draining. Look forward to getting back to early mornings/late evenings this week|
    wicklowwonder||||
    rofno1|2|8|Holidays over now:( so time to get with the programme, starting with 3 miles tomorrow!:)|
    pab_lowe||||
    elvis jones||||
    boccy23|4|17.5|Great to have it started. The plan makes it easier to get out and do it!|
    OI||||
    brophya2007|4|17.63|LSR of 6 miles in 59 minutes, was feeling it doing the last mile, it's the longest I've run in a while. Only 18 weeks to go :-) |
    dublinrunner||||
    southofnowhere||||
    robandpatrice||||
    dothehustle||||
    beamgirl|3|18|6+3+9 finally getting some long runs in|
    michellemuncher||||
    Dave_||||
    RayCun|4|20.3|first week down, 18 to go...|
    littlebug|4|19.2|Happy with this week|
    meathcountysec|4|24.12|A good week. Still not getting the 5th run in though|
    DigiJem|4|17|Nice week of late evening running in the sun.|
    8ofSpades|3|16|+1 Circuit. Ran my final LSR before the strawberry half this sunday. 8 miles in 01:23:00. Cons: Based on that my sub 2hr prediction for the half looks like a pipe dream but I was tired even if I was keeping it slow and steady I was still knackered after it. Pros: That was saturday morning and I had run the previous night also, plus there will be pacers so I'm not going down without a fight next Sunday|
    D Chief||||
    curraghyid|4|15|following hh to the letter did 3x3miles quick pace 20min/23min/20min then 6mile lsr in baking heat sunday 55 mins looking foward to building the distance |
    la calera||||
    Shazkea||||
    Curl52||||
    Figmurphy||||
    ilovetorun|5|32|Delighted with this week,really enjoyed getting out in the good weather,going for a sports massage tomorrow just to keep ontop of things|
    James Howlett||||


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭michellemuncher


    Name|Sessions Completed|Total Miles This Week|Comments
    William72|4|15.5|On the plus side great to have started the program and got 4 sessions in for the first time in weeks. On the negative side - did all 4 runs at unusual times for me so found the heat to be quite draining. Look forward to getting back to early mornings/late evenings this week|
    wicklowwonder||||
    rofno1|2|8|Holidays over now:( so time to get with the programme, starting with 3 miles tomorrow!:)|
    pab_lowe||||
    elvis jones||||
    boccy23|4|17.5|Great to have it started. The plan makes it easier to get out and do it!|
    OI||||
    brophya2007|4|17.63|LSR of 6 miles in 59 minutes, was feeling it doing the last mile, it's the longest I've run in a while. Only 18 weeks to go :-) |
    dublinrunner||||
    southofnowhere||||
    robandpatrice||||
    dothehustle||||
    beamgirl|3|18|6+3+9 finally getting some long runs in|
    michellemuncher|3|16|This included a fartlek session and LSR of 9m, and very slow it was. I also cycled 65 miles and swam for half hour in the sea - lovely. I am doing the Dunshaughlin 10k so will not do much running beforehand.|
    Dave_||||
    RayCun|4|20.3|first week down, 18 to go...|
    littlebug|4|19.2|Happy with this week|
    meathcountysec|4|24.12|A good week. Still not getting the 5th run in though|
    DigiJem|4|17|Nice week of late evening running in the sun.|
    8ofSpades|3|16|+1 Circuit. Ran my final LSR before the strawberry half this sunday. 8 miles in 01:23:00. Cons: Based on that my sub 2hr prediction for the half looks like a pipe dream but I was tired even if I was keeping it slow and steady I was still knackered after it. Pros: That was saturday morning and I had run the previous night also, plus there will be pacers so I'm not going down without a fight next Sunday|
    D Chief||||
    curraghyid|4|15|following hh to the letter did 3x3miles quick pace 20min/23min/20min then 6mile lsr in baking heat sunday 55 mins looking foward to building the distance |
    la calera||||
    Shazkea||||
    Curl52||||
    Figmurphy||||
    ilovetorun|5|32|Delighted with this week,really enjoyed getting out in the good weather,going for a sports massage tomorrow just to keep ontop of things|
    James Howlett||||


    I don't have too many bad runs, but when I do I just run slower and accept that every run wont be great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    Another week down - week 1 of the program for some of you! How did you get on?

    Maybe next week you could add a column for total miles so far? i noticed it on last year's novice thread, it seems like a good idea. At least if you have a bad week you can see how far you've come already...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,090 ✭✭✭shazkea


    Name|Sessions Completed|Total Miles This Week|Comments
    William72|4|15.5|On the plus side great to have started the program and got 4 sessions in for the first time in weeks. On the negative side - did all 4 runs at unusual times for me so found the heat to be quite draining. Look forward to getting back to early mornings/late evenings this week|
    wicklowwonder||||
    rofno1|2|8|Holidays over now:( so time to get with the programme, starting with 3 miles tomorrow!:)|
    pab_lowe||||
    elvis jones||||
    boccy23|4|17.5|Great to have it started. The plan makes it easier to get out and do it!|
    OI||||
    brophya2007|4|17.63|LSR of 6 miles in 59 minutes, was feeling it doing the last mile, it's the longest I've run in a while. Only 18 weeks to go :-) |
    dublinrunner||||
    southofnowhere||||
    robandpatrice||||
    dothehustle||||
    beamgirl|3|18|6+3+9 finally getting some long runs in|
    michellemuncher|3|16|This included a fartlek session and LSR of 9m, and very slow it was. I also cycled 65 miles and swam for half hour in the sea - lovely. I am doing the Dunshaughlin 10k so will not do much running beforehand.|
    Dave_||||
    RayCun|4|20.3|first week down, 18 to go...|
    littlebug|4|19.2|Happy with this week|
    meathcountysec|4|24.12|A good week. Still not getting the 5th run in though|
    DigiJem|4|17|Nice week of late evening running in the sun.|
    8ofSpades|3|16|+1 Circuit. Ran my final LSR before the strawberry half this sunday. 8 miles in 01:23:00. Cons: Based on that my sub 2hr prediction for the half looks like a pipe dream but I was tired even if I was keeping it slow and steady I was still knackered after it. Pros: That was saturday morning and I had run the previous night also, plus there will be pacers so I'm not going down without a fight next Sunday|
    D Chief||||
    curraghyid|4|15|following hh to the letter did 3x3miles quick pace 20min/23min/20min then 6mile lsr in baking heat sunday 55 mins looking foward to building the distance |
    la calera||||
    Shazkea|4|16|Started on HH program with an extra mile on one short run and it was an enjoyable week especially in the good weather|
    Curl52||||
    Figmurphy||||
    ilovetorun|5|32|Delighted with this week,really enjoyed getting out in the good weather,going for a sports massage tomorrow just to keep ontop of things|
    James Howlett||||

    If I have a bad run, I always get nervous when I start out on my next run that it will be as bad. So I cue up some motivational/energetic music on iPod to start me off. I will admit to having used Eye of the Tiger or Destiny's Child Survivor....very cheesy I know but hey it works for me and I start the run laughing!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,957 ✭✭✭digger2d2


    I've done a disappearing act off the table....


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,090 ✭✭✭shazkea


    digger2d2 wrote: »
    I've done a disappearing act off the table....

    digger2d2 - that happened to me last me and I think it's because I left the quotes in when I reposted which means the next person can't quote you...someone correct me if I'm wrong here!!

    So just leave the table header in but remove the
    .... wrote:
    at the start and the
    at the end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 143 ✭✭D Chief


    Name|Sessions Completed|Total Miles This Week|Comments
    William72|4|15.5|On the plus side great to have started the program and got 4 sessions in for the first time in weeks. On the negative side - did all 4 runs at unusual times for me so found the heat to be quite draining. Look forward to getting back to early mornings/late evenings this week|
    wicklowwonder||||
    rofno1|2|8|Holidays over now:( so time to get with the programme, starting with 3 miles tomorrow!:)|
    pab_lowe||||
    elvis jones||||
    boccy23|4|17.5|Great to have it started. The plan makes it easier to get out and do it!|
    OI||||
    brophya2007|4|17.63|LSR of 6 miles in 59 minutes, was feeling it doing the last mile, it's the longest I've run in a while. Only 18 weeks to go :-) |
    dublinrunner||||
    southofnowhere||||
    robandpatrice||||
    dothehustle||||
    beamgirl|3|18|6+3+9 finally getting some long runs in|
    michellemuncher|3|16|This included a fartlek session and LSR of 9m, and very slow it was. I also cycled 65 miles and swam for half hour in the sea - lovely. I am doing the Dunshaughlin 10k so will not do much running beforehand.|
    Dave_||||
    RayCun|4|20.3|first week down, 18 to go...|
    littlebug|4|19.2|Happy with this week|
    meathcountysec|4|24.12|A good week. Still not getting the 5th run in though|
    DigiJem|4|17|Nice week of late evening running in the sun.|
    8ofSpades|3|16|+1 Circuit. Ran my final LSR before the strawberry half this sunday. 8 miles in 01:23:00. Cons: Based on that my sub 2hr prediction for the half looks like a pipe dream but I was tired even if I was keeping it slow and steady I was still knackered after it. Pros: That was saturday morning and I had run the previous night also, plus there will be pacers so I'm not going down without a fight next Sunday|
    D Chief|4|18|Good week. Got new runners, a new ipod shuffle and a new job after 3 months unemployed. Start next week, same week as I start full on marathon training!|
    curraghyid|4|15|following hh to the letter did 3x3miles quick pace 20min/23min/20min then 6mile lsr in baking heat sunday 55 mins looking foward to building the distance |
    digger2d2|4|20.5|enjoyable week, have set my marathon pace at 8:45 a mile so lsr was done this week at 9;12, 2 'cross' sessions done as well|
    la calera||||
    Shazkea|4|16|Started on HH program with an extra mile on one short run and it was an enjoyable week especially in the good weather|
    Curl52||||
    Figmurphy||||
    ilovetorun|5|32|Delighted with this week,really enjoyed getting out in the good weather,going for a sports massage tomorrow just to keep ontop of things|
    James Howlett||||

    digger2d2, I restored you to the table.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    RayCun wrote: »
    Maybe next week you could add a column for total miles so far? i noticed it on last year's novice thread, it seems like a good idea. At least if you have a bad week you can see how far you've come already...

    Will do :)

    Also just want to say that you all seem to be off to a great start, long may it continue! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 49 Curl52


    Name|Sessions Completed|Total Miles This Week|Comments
    William72|4|15.5|On the plus side great to have started the program and got 4 sessions in for the first time in weeks. On the negative side - did all 4 runs at unusual times for me so found the heat to be quite draining. Look forward to getting back to early mornings/late evenings this week|
    wicklowwonder||||
    rofno1|2|8|Holidays over now:( so time to get with the programme, starting with 3 miles tomorrow!:)|
    pab_lowe||||
    elvis jones||||
    boccy23|4|17.5|Great to have it started. The plan makes it easier to get out and do it!|
    OI||||
    brophya2007|4|17.63|LSR of 6 miles in 59 minutes, was feeling it doing the last mile, it's the longest I've run in a while. Only 18 weeks to go :-) |
    dublinrunner||||
    southofnowhere||||
    robandpatrice||||
    dothehustle||||
    beamgirl|3|18|6+3+9 finally getting some long runs in|
    michellemuncher|3|16|This included a fartlek session and LSR of 9m, and very slow it was. I also cycled 65 miles and swam for half hour in the sea - lovely. I am doing the Dunshaughlin 10k so will not do much running beforehand.|
    Dave_||||
    RayCun|4|20.3|first week down, 18 to go...|
    littlebug|4|19.2|Happy with this week|
    meathcountysec|4|24.12|A good week. Still not getting the 5th run in though|
    DigiJem|4|17|Nice week of late evening running in the sun.|
    8ofSpades|3|16|+1 Circuit. Ran my final LSR before the strawberry half this sunday. 8 miles in 01:23:00. Cons: Based on that my sub 2hr prediction for the half looks like a pipe dream but I was tired even if I was keeping it slow and steady I was still knackered after it. Pros: That was saturday morning and I had run the previous night also, plus there will be pacers so I'm not going down without a fight next Sunday|
    D Chief|4|18|Good week. Got new runners, a new ipod shuffle and a new job after 3 months unemployed. Start next week, same week as I start full on marathon training!|
    curraghyid|4|15|following hh to the letter did 3x3miles quick pace 20min/23min/20min then 6mile lsr in baking heat sunday 55 mins looking foward to building the distance |
    digger2d2|4|20.5|enjoyable week, have set my marathon pace at 8:45 a mile so lsr was done this week at 9;12, 2 'cross' sessions done as well|
    la calera||||
    Shazkea|4|16|Started on HH program with an extra mile on one short run and it was an enjoyable week especially in the good weather|
    Curl52|3|21.5|Didn't the full 4 sessions in as was away the weekend but did 10miles on Thursday evening which was my longest run to date so was happy with that. Last half mile was a killer but felt great afterwards.|
    Figmurphy||||
    ilovetorun|5|32|Delighted with this week,really enjoyed getting out in the good weather,going for a sports massage tomorrow just to keep ontop of things|
    James Howlett||||


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 180 ✭✭8ofSpades


    I'm not going to be in the country for the Adidas series half marathon
    My only three planned races between now and DCM are:

    Strawberry half this sunday
    and then the adidas 5 and 10 mile series in the park.

    I'm considering this
    http://www.athlone3quarter.com/index.php
    as a substitute

    Thoughts?

    Is it too close to the DCM or is anyone else considering this?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    The date (and distance) for that actually fits in quite well for when a 20-miler is due, so it sounds like a relatively good opportunity for a supported LSR. The difficult part there is controlling your pace in a race situation, because that 20-miler shouldn't be done at PMP or faster. If you are relatively confident that you can take it easy, then go for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 180 ✭✭8ofSpades


    The difficult part there is controlling your pace in a race situation, because that 20-miler shouldn't be done at PMP or faster. If you are relatively confident that you can take it easy, then go for it.

    thats the burning question
    PMP I presume is predicted marathon pace?

    I find it hard to pace myself appropriately even on LSRs

    If I were to go out at PMP or slightly less would that pose a huge problem?

    Its all relative I suppose and depends hugely on my fitness at the time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    8ofSpades wrote: »
    PMP I presume is predicted marathon pace?
    It is indeed.
    8ofSpades wrote: »
    I find it hard to pace myself appropriately even on LSRs

    If I were to go out at PMP or slightly less would that pose a huge problem?
    My concern with doing 20 miles at PMP 3 weeks before the race would that you'd be taking far too much out of yourself at that stage. It will take some time to recover from that, and that will eat into your taper.

    Something that will give you a rough idea of training paces is the McMillan calculator - plug in a recent race time and it will give an indication of where it should be. Just as an example, if I put my 5 mile time in from the Raheny 5 (just over 40 minutes), it will give a suggested long run pace of 9.32-10.32 min/mile.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 180 ✭✭8ofSpades


    as a matter of interest will you be advising people to race the adidas half or use it as an LSR?

    I'm presuming of course that most people in this thread are running the adidas series


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    I would advise people to race it, as it acts as a relatively good guide to fitness at that point in training (it's on 18 September this year, a week earlier than last year and just over 5 weeks before DCM).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    I think most people (and most people on last year's thread) race it. It gives you a better idea of how you'll do in the marathon. I'd only LSR it if I'd done a recent half anyway, had missed some LSRs, and was going to do run to or from the half as well, to bring the run up over 13 miles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭James Howlett


    I think it would be a good idea to explain exactly what LSR means.

    You know for people who are unsure... I would do it myself but i not goode explain things:o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    LSR = Long Slow Run.

    The main point of one is time on your feet, and they are a key workout as part of marathon training.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭michellemuncher


    I would advise people to race it, as it acts as a relatively good guide to fitness at that point in training (it's on 18 September this year, a week earlier than last year and just over 5 weeks before DCM).


    The Phoenix Park half is a great run but I am worried that if I race it, a lot will be taken out of me as races usually have this effect on me and I take a good 2 weeks to fully recover. And would the recovery not eat into the last bit of serious training for the DCM?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 258 ✭✭southofnowhere


    You can take me off the board Rainbow.

    Just can't run yet and any progress I made earlier this year has been well wiped out now.

    Great thread this, well done, and best of luck to everyone.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    Name|Sessions Completed|Total Miles This Week|Total Mileage To Date|Comments
    William72|||||
    wicklowwonder|||||
    rofno1|||||
    pab_lowe|||||
    elvis jones|||||
    boccy23|||||
    OI|||||
    brophya2007|||||
    dublinrunner|||||
    robandpatrice|||||
    dothehustle|||||
    beamgirl|||||
    michellemuncher|||||
    Dave_|||||
    RayCun|||||
    littlebug|||||
    meathcountysec|||||
    DigiJem|||||
    8ofSpades|||||
    D Chief|||||
    curraghyid|||||
    digger2d2|||||
    la calera|||||
    Shazkea|||||
    Curl52|||||
    Figmurphy|||||
    ilovetorun|||||
    James Howlett|||||

    Another week down! How were things for you?

    Congratulations to everyone racing this weekend, be it Dunshaughlin, Enniscorthy or elsewhere. Some very good performances in warm, humid conditions - good stuff :D

    Discussion topic for this week - got any inspirational quotes you'd like to share, running-related or otherwise?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    And the plan for next week:

    Week 2
    Monday | Tuesday|Wednesday|Thursday|Friday|Saturday|Sunday
    rest|3 m|3 m + 3*100m strides|3 m|rest|7 m|cross


    Week 2 is similar to week 1, just an extra mile added to the LSR. You should find this pretty comfortable by now. :)

    Week 3
    Monday | Tuesday|Wednesday|Thursday|Friday|Saturday|Sunday
    rest|3 m|4 m (middle 2 @ PMP)|3 m|rest|5 m|cross


    For those of you on week 3 - I'd like you to do the middle 2 miles of your Wednesday 4-miler at PMP. This is a step-back week, the long run is only 5 miles. We take a step-back week every 3 weeks in this program, it allows the body time to recover, and will become much more important later on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    The Phoenix Park half is a great run but I am worried that if I race it, a lot will be taken out of me as races usually have this effect on me and I take a good 2 weeks to fully recover. And would the recovery not eat into the last bit of serious training for the DCM?

    While I would recommend it in general - if you know that your recovery from races is relatively slow and it will affect your training after it then it may not be worthwhile racing it. If you've already entered, maybe just treat it as a well-supported LSR with a nice T-shirt at the end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    Name|Sessions Completed|Total Miles This Week|Total Mileage To Date|Comments
    William72|||||
    wicklowwonder|||||
    rofno1|||||
    pab_lowe|||||
    elvis jones|||||
    boccy23|||||
    OI|||||
    brophya2007|||||
    dublinrunner|||||
    robandpatrice|||||
    dothehustle|||||
    beamgirl|||||
    michellemuncher|||||
    Dave_|||||
    RayCun|4|21.5|41.8|don't know if it was the heat or the pace, but was completely exhausted after Saturday's LSR. Felt fine the next day though|
    littlebug|||||
    meathcountysec|||||
    DigiJem|||||
    8ofSpades|||||
    D Chief|||||
    curraghyid|||||
    digger2d2|||||
    la calera|||||
    Shazkea|||||
    Curl52|||||
    Figmurphy|||||
    ilovetorun|||||
    James Howlett|||||


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 298 ✭✭brophya2007


    Name|Sessions Completed|Total Miles This Week|Total Mileage To Date|Comments
    William72|||||
    wicklowwonder|||||
    rofno1|||||
    pab_lowe|||||
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    RayCun|4|21.5|41.8|don't know if it was the heat or the pace, but was completely exhausted after Saturday's LSR. Felt fine the next day though|
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    At what pace should we be doing the mid-week runs? Presuming we're all going for sub 4:30 that's 10.18 mins/mile - should we be going slower than this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    At what pace should we be doing the mid-week runs? Presuming we're all going for sub 4:30 that's 10.18 mins/mile - should we be going slower than this?

    In the Novice1 plan, there are no pace guidelines for the midweek runs, just whatever is comfortable for you.
    In the Novice2 plan, the longer midweek run is supposed to be done at race pace, so for you 10.18 mins/mile. The other midweek runs would be about 30 seconds slower, and the weekend LSR about a minute slower.

    BUT... RK is providing additional guidelines in her mail. If you're on week 2, do your midweek runs at an easy pace (around 10.48?), but in the middle midweek run, do some strides as well.
    If you're on week 3, do your midweek runs at easy pace, apart from the middle two miles of the longer run, which you should try to do at 10.18 pace.

    I don't think everyone is going for sub 4.30, but the plan RK is posting will work for everyone whatever their goal. You could also argue that at this stage it's important not to get too caught up in pace. The emphasis in the Higdon plan is to run easy, but get used to the higher mileage. Deciding what 'easy' is, is up to the individual runner. This far away from the marathon, it can be hard to set a realistic goal time anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 151 ✭✭rofno1


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    William72|||||
    wicklowwonder|||||
    rofno1|4|16|16|Great to get started!|
    pab_lowe|||||
    elvis jones|||||
    boccy23|||||
    OI|||||
    brophya2007|3|13.2|30.83|Missed Thursday's 3 miler but got the 6 mile LSR run in on saturday at 58.30|
    dublinrunner|||||
    robandpatrice|||||
    dothehustle|||||
    beamgirl|||||
    michellemuncher|||||
    Dave_|||||
    RayCun|4|21.5|41.8|don't know if it was the heat or the pace, but was completely exhausted after Saturday's LSR. Felt fine the next day though|
    littlebug|||||
    meathcountysec|||||
    DigiJem|||||
    8ofSpades|||||
    D Chief|||||
    curraghyid|||||
    digger2d2|||||
    la calera|||||
    Shazkea|||||
    Curl52|||||
    Figmurphy|||||
    ilovetorun|||||
    James Howlett|||||


    Great to get the formal training started!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,450 ✭✭✭meathcountysec


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    William72|||||
    wicklowwonder|||||
    rofno1|4|16|16|Great to get started!|
    pab_lowe|||||
    elvis jones|||||
    boccy23|||||
    OI|||||
    brophya2007|3|13.2|30.83|Missed Thursday's 3 miler but got the 6 mile LSR run in on saturday at 58.30|
    dublinrunner|||||
    robandpatrice|||||
    dothehustle|||||
    beamgirl|||||
    michellemuncher|||||
    Dave_|||||
    RayCun|4|21.5|41.8|don't know if it was the heat or the pace, but was completely exhausted after Saturday's LSR. Felt fine the next day though|
    littlebug|||||
    meathcountysec|4|22.23|103|Happy with week's mileage considering having a race scheduled. Still not getting the 5th run in. Might be more determined when official start of plan comes on 5th July|
    DigiJem|||||
    8ofSpades|||||
    D Chief|||||
    curraghyid|||||
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    la calera|||||
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    Figmurphy|||||
    ilovetorun|||||
    James Howlett|||||


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 225 ✭✭ilovetorun


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    William72|||||
    wicklowwonder|||||
    rofno1|4|16|16|Great to get started!|
    pab_lowe|||||
    elvis jones|||||
    boccy23|||||
    OI|||||
    brophya2007|3|13.2|30.83|Missed Thursday's 3 miler but got the 6 mile LSR run in on saturday at 58.30|
    dublinrunner|||||
    robandpatrice|||||
    dothehustle|||||
    beamgirl|||||
    michellemuncher|||||
    Dave_|||||
    RayCun|4|21.5|41.8|don't know if it was the heat or the pace, but was completely exhausted after Saturday's LSR. Felt fine the next day though|
    littlebug|||||
    meathcountysec|4|22.23|103|Happy with week's mileage considering having a race scheduled. Still not getting the 5th run in. Might be more determined when official start of plan comes on 5th July|
    DigiJem|||||
    8ofSpades|||||
    D Chief|||||
    curraghyid|||||
    digger2d2|||||
    la calera|||||
    Shazkea|||||
    Curl52|||||
    Figmurphy|||||
    ilovetorun|5|32|86|Found 6m really hard on Saturday,felt like I was carrying a few blocks on my back! But thoroughly enjoyed yesterdays 8m,funny how you have good/bad days for no reason! Overall - very happy with the week|
    James Howlett|||||


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭James Howlett


    Name|Sessions Completed|Total Miles This Week|Total Mileage To Date|Comments
    William72|||||
    wicklowwonder|||||
    rofno1|4|16|16|Great to get started!|
    pab_lowe|||||
    elvis jones|||||
    boccy23|||||
    OI|||||
    brophya2007|3|13.2|30.83|Missed Thursday's 3 miler but got the 6 mile LSR run in on saturday at 58.30|
    dublinrunner|||||
    robandpatrice|||||
    dothehustle|||||
    beamgirl|||||
    michellemuncher|||||
    Dave_|||||
    RayCun|4|21.5|41.8|don't know if it was the heat or the pace, but was completely exhausted after Saturday's LSR. Felt fine the next day though|
    littlebug|||||
    meathcountysec|4|22.23|103|Happy with week's mileage considering having a race scheduled. Still not getting the 5th run in. Might be more determined when official start of plan comes on 5th July|
    DigiJem|||||
    8ofSpades|||||
    D Chief|||||
    curraghyid|||||
    digger2d2|||||
    la calera|||||
    Shazkea|||||
    Curl52|||||
    Figmurphy|||||
    ilovetorun|5|32|86|Found 6m really hard on Saturday,felt like I was carrying a few blocks on my back! But thoroughly enjoyed yesterdays 8m,funny how you have good/bad days for no reason! Overall - very happy with the week|
    James Howlett|3|20|20|First long run of the season last night. Despte my best planning I didn't get out until 21:30 last night but thankfully I managed the whole thing in 1 piece. Legs do hurt today though...|


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