Slain Gangster Hailed as "Role Model"

elleburp

SeaFields wrote: »

and does anyone else think that the finding of the car that was used in the shooting wreaks of trying to frame somebody??

They didnt bother burning it out and it was found complete with bullets and rubber gloves?

Sound's a tad suspect alright

Ammonite

He was an utter scumbag.

Thank god no one in my family is like that but if I had a relative like that, I wouldn't go near the funeral.

bootybouncer

Scumbag,

I think that tool mc williams has a lot to answer for with his arsehole naming he gets away with of these guys, lovely number he has, I reckon he picks up his kids beano and away he goes isteach sa word pad, "the dapper", "the penguin" "the don" "the monarch", jaysus what a number :rolleyes:

bring in the spanish police over here and bate the bollox outta half the country, sorted

starbelgrade

Zahra Whispering Horn wrote: »

Gerry Ryan was loved by many, he also contributed to society, not take from it. Surely you can see the difference between the two. One of them earned the respect of a nation.

Nice of you to step up & take on the role of spokesman for the nation.

pickarooney

ITT: we speak ill of the dead with impunity.

OutlawPete

MagicMarker wrote: »

I heard that even his own people were suspected of killing him, because he had become such a paranoid cúnt.

I also heard that he told a guy to kill someone, and that if he didn't, he'd be killed.

Oh yeah, a delightful fella.

Tell Paul Williams, he'll print it.

Heckler

He was a scumbag who got what he deserved. Hopefully those who killed him will suffer the same because they are scum too. Of course his family lamented his passing. They are obviously scum too. A ****stain like that isn't bred from a loving, caring family. If that family line died out it would be a favour to the country.

gollem_1975

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

What a load of bollocks!!

Can't believe someone could be stupid enough to write that post.

isn't he just stating the obvious ?... he's not excusing the dead guys actions. "the_minister" seems to me to be saying that this guy probably did have some friends ,people who looked up to him and family who loved him.

one could call it a "value-free" statement , I think to say it is stupid is probably a bit unfair tbh.

OT: if you have time watch "the wire" TV series. It does a good job of humanising the people caught up in the so-called "war on drugs" or the drugs business... but most importantly its excellent TV imho

PrettyBoy

Eamon was a role model to his brother who has always aspired to be a scumbag crime boss. The whole family are scumbags and Eamon got what he deserved.

gollem_1975

PrettyBoy wrote: »

Eamon got what he deserved.

Omar Little wrote:

Its all in the game

And the guy who shot him will probably be next and so on and so on...

that his brother is paraphrased by a journalist as saying "he is a role model" is just a non-story tbh.

now if the local careers guidance counsellor had said it that would be a completely different ball game....

dubtom

Yea,I've read all the stuff about him too,all the people he killed or had killed,all the money he robbed,all the drugs he dealt. Funny thing is he wasn't actually convicted for any of it. Funny how stuff printed in the papers somehow becomes fact. Even after the guys dead and nearly buried the papers are still having a go. He could have actually been the nicest guy you could meet,but that doesn't sell papers.

In fairness I couldn't care less if he was a good guy or not,it just bothers me how people become brain washed with the bull**** they read in the papers.

recylingbin

It strikes me as somewhat amusing that it's frowned upon (i.e. you get a days ban) for posting the trurh about Gerry Ryan, but it's open season on this scumbag.

Where are all the grief junkies who were shouting for respect for the dead last week? Where's Mickey Dolanz with his what is and what isn't tasteful PMs?

starbelgrade

dubtom wrote: »

Yea,I've read all the stuff about him too,all the people he killed or had killed,all the money he robbed,all the drugs he dealt. Funny thing is he wasn't actually convicted for any of it. Funny how stuff printed in the papers somehow becomes fact. Even after the guys dead and nearly buried the papers are still having a go. He could have actually been the nicest guy you could meet,but that doesn't sell papers.

In fairness I couldn't care less if he was a good guy or not,it just bothers me how people become brain washed with the bull**** they read in the papers.

Some very good points there. It's in stark contrast to the death of Gerry Ryan. The public & media reaction to that was an over-reaction of a different kind entirely, where he was suddenly promoted to the status of being the "voice of a nation" and where no-one is allowed to say a critical word about it, or the reaction itself.

On the flip side, you have the death of a "gangster", where the media and public vitriol also goes unquestioned. I knew, when I was posting the thread, that the term "scumbag" would be the most bandied about term of them all and I wasn't wrong.

leedsfan88

dubtom wrote: »

Yea,I've read all the stuff about him too,all the people he killed or had killed,all the money he robbed,all the drugs he dealt. Funny thing is he wasn't actually convicted for any of it. Funny how stuff printed in the papers somehow becomes fact. Even after the guys dead and nearly buried the papers are still having a go. He could have actually been the nicest guy you could meet,but that doesn't sell papers.

In fairness I couldn't care less if he was a good guy or not,it just bothers me how people become brain washed with the bull**** they read in the papers.

He was scum, he was just smart scum with people who protected him. Everyone is glad his dead even the Guards and i do know that for a fact, the fact he died instantly is something i wish didn't happen i think a long slow painful death may have offered justice to the 17 people he murdered.

starbelgrade

leedsfan88 wrote: »

He was scum, he was just smart scum with people who protected him. Everyone is glad his dead even the Guards and i do know that for a fact, the fact he died instantly is something i wish didn't happen i think a long slow painful death may have offered justice to the 17 people he murdered.

Did you post that just to prove my point?

K-9

starbelgrade wrote: »

Some very good points there. It's in stark contrast to the death of Gerry Ryan. The public & media reaction to that was an over-reaction of a different kind entirely, where he was suddenly promoted to the status of being the "voice of a nation" and where no-one is allowed to say a critical word about it, or the reaction itself.

On the flip side, you have the death of a "gangster", where the media and public vitriol also goes unquestioned. I knew, when I was posting the thread, that the term "scumbag" would be the most bandied about term of them all and I wasn't wrong.

Fair point but I don't think it is quite as simple as that in Gerrys case.

leedsfan88

starbelgrade wrote: »

Did you post that just to prove my point?

missed your post before posting mine

starbelgrade

K-9 wrote: »

Fair point but I don't think it is quite as simple as that in Gerrys case.

I don't think it's quite as simple in either cases to be honest. My point is that when you get a very one-sided media & public outcry on whatever issue it may be, any real facts / discussion / objectivity seem to get lost in the wave of opinion.

K-9

starbelgrade wrote: »

I don't think it's quite as simple in either cases to be honest. My point is that when you get a very one-sided media & public outcry on whatever issue it may be, any real facts / discussion / objectivity seem to get lost in the wave of opinion.

Well, I'm sure the gory details, if any, will come out about Gerry. No doubt about that. Plenty of rumours about him anyway, before his death. People aren't going to forget that.

I suppose the details about Dunnes good work with charity et al, may not come out.

Bodhisopha

You all a bunch of fúckín' asshóles. You know why? You don't have the guts to be what you wanna be. You need people like him. You need people like him so you can point your fúckín' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie. Him, he don't have that problem. Him, he always tell the truth. Even when he lie. So say good night to the bad guy! Come on. The last time you gonna see a bad guy like that again, let me tell you.

RIP "Eamo".

starbelgrade

Can't you stop saying f*ck all the time?

recylingbin

Bodhisopha wrote: »

You all a bunch of fúckín' asshóles. You know why? You don't have the guts to be what you wanna be. You need people like him. You need people like him so you can point your fúckín' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie. Him, he don't have that problem. Him, he always tell the truth. Even when he lie. So say good night to the bad guy! Come on. The last time you gonna see a bad guy like that again, let me tell you.

RIP "Eamo".

Joo muthafucka!!

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starbelgrade wrote: »

Nice of you to step up & take on the role of spokesman for the nation.

I don't mean every single person on the island, but the nation respected him. You know what I mean :P

gazc23

conorhal wrote: »

The church used to bury suicides and still born babies on unconsecrated ground because they were 'beyond the grace of God', it would be nice to see such 'moral authority' exercised in this case.
The Don should have been 'read from the pulpit' and then tipped into the bin.

So should all those ****ing pervert priests who are saying mass.

Little D

I can say in all honesty NO MATTER WHAT my brother did i would always love him and speak good of him NO MATTER WHAT but maybe my family are different from all of others i no my brother would always love me no matter what i had done aswell, it was his funeral at the end of the day he was someones son someones brother and someones father should his family not be able to say exactly what they want about him at his own funeral without being slated for doing it, at the end of the day his brother is greiving and probably only thinking about the good and not the bad, i think that one comment about bombing the church was horrible, yes he was a scum bag but he is dead now what good would it do to kill every member of his family who are probably all innocent of any wrong doing??? that comment really makes it look like your no better then he was??

Little D

aDeener wrote: »

bollocks

even if a member raped you, you would still love them?

Well i am a christian and i was brought up to believe in forgiving people for their sins, it would take me a while but i hope after time i would learn to forgive them yes

aDeener

Little D wrote: »

Well i am a christian and i was brought up to believe in forgiving people for their sins, it would take me a while but i hope after time i would learn to forgive them yes

right.... and what if they rape you again after you forgive them, what if they repeatedly rape you until the end of your days?


Edit: Hmmm i suppose if you love them they way you claim you do, it may not be rape after all......

aDeener

bootybouncer wrote: »

Scumbag,

I think that tool mc williams has a lot to answer for with his arsehole naming he gets away with of these guys, lovely number he has, I reckon he picks up his kids beano and away he goes isteach sa word pad, "the dapper", "the penguin" "the don" "the monarch", jaysus what a number :rolleyes:

bring in the spanish police over here and bate the bollox outta half the country, sorted

hey man i know some of his thoughts on economics might be a bit questionable but he has no case to answer here

Little D

aDeener wrote: »

right.... and what if they rape you again after you forgive them, what if they repeatedly rape you until the end of your days?


Edit: Hmmm i suppose if you love them they way you claim you do, it may not be rape after all......

now seriously cop on, if someone rapes you once you go to the gardes and you get justice for it the person (if the law does it job) would be put in prision, yes they would some day be released but has it ever happened that a released rapist has raped the same person again?? possibly yes but its highly unlikey i would just have to trust that they have reform and wouldnt do it again,

and how dare you say if i love them the way i claim it might not be rape after all?? do you not feel strong love for a family member with about wanting to have sex with them?? dont no what your idea of love is pal but its certainly different from mine, you must have a very sick and perverted mind

conorhal

Bodhisopha wrote: »

You all a bunch of fúckín' asshóles. You know why? You don't have the guts to be what you wanna be. You need people like him. You need people like him so you can point your fúckín' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie. Him, he don't have that problem. Him, he always tell the truth. Even when he lie. So say good night to the bad guy! Come on. The last time you gonna see a bad guy like that again, let me tell you.

RIP "Eamo".

I don't have the guts to be what I want to be? I aspire to be many things but 'murderous psycho' is a pretty low bar to set for ones self, and far too easy to achieve, all you need is an attitude and a screwdriver it would seem.

And BTW, no we decidedly do not "need people like him", If I need to define evil arsehole all I'll need is a dictionary, not a walking talking representation of hell. As to what makes me good? I guess by being the very opposite of that scumbag. I'm sure you're right though, he always told the truth (except in an Garda interview room), and he always was exactly what he proclaimed to be, a scumbag, but how brave was he when somebody else had the gun though?

"The last time you gonna see a bad guy like that again, let me tell you."

If only that were true.

Birneybau

conorhal wrote: »

I don't have the guts to be what I want to be? I aspire to be many things but 'murderous psycho' is a pretty low bar to set for ones self, and far too easy to achieve, all you need is an attitude and a screwdriver it would seem.

And BTW, no we decidedly do not "need people like him", If I need to define evil arsehole all I'll need is a dictionary, not a walking talking representation of hell. As to what makes me good? I guess by being the very opposite of that scumbag. I'm sure you're right though, he always told the truth (except in an Garda interview room), and he always was exactly what he proclaimed to be, a scumbag, but how brave was he when somebody else had the gun though?

"The last time you gonna see a bad guy like that again, let me tell you."

If only that were true.

Cockaroache!

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Bodhisopha wrote: »

You all a bunch of fúckín' asshóles. You know why? You don't have the guts to be what you wanna be. You need people like him. You need people like him so you can point your fúckín' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie. Him, he don't have that problem. Him, he always tell the truth. Even when he lie. So say good night to the bad guy! Come on. The last time you gonna see a bad guy like that again, let me tell you.

RIP "Eamo".

weiland79

starbelgrade wrote: »

From the Sindo, full article here.... http://www.independent.ie/national-news/applause-fills-church-after-brother-hails-slain-gangster-as-role-model-2164630.html




Hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahha that's fcuking funny.

K-9

Seems a bit of an OTT reaction. The Mail at it too, surprise, surprise. They were hardly going to call him a "murdering b*stard" now.