You are not a f*cking DJ. You’re an overpaid, untalented, cake-throwing c*nt.

Scubadevils

I keep meaning to watch this and have it lined up in my youtube favourites, supposed to be an interesting view on world banks etc starting with the federal reserve in the US.

The Money Masters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXb-LrVkuwM

Disclaimer - as above, I haven't watched all of it yet (only part 1) so if any reptiles ultimately emerge later on, I take no responsibility for their presence.

My own take is that there is most likely not one overall entity controlling but more like many small cogs doing the same thing in one big engine.

Anyway, I'm off to fix some prices.... see ye all later :pac:

stomprockin

Just on something a bit different !

Pearse Doherty One of the best speeches the Dail has ever seen….he’s getting rave reviews in the press….well worth a listen

http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/1207/budget_political_reax.html#video

old gregg

I listened to him yesterday and was impressed.

stomprockin

He sure did lash into them, very patriotic !

Android 666

stomprockin wrote: »

He sure did lash into them, very patriotic !

Yes, Nationalism and Socialism - a perfect combination...

stomprockin

Android 666 wrote: »

Yes, Nationalism and Socialism - a perfect combination...

Indeed.

SteoL

stomprockin wrote: »

Just on something a bit different !

Pearse Doherty One of the best speeches the Dail has ever seen….he’s getting rave reviews in the press….well worth a listen

http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/1207/budget_political_reax.html#video

Good performance alright. Particularly enjoyed him telling MC to shut her mouth Can't stand that dozy ****

electrogrimey

I love when it happens that you put on a track, and it just exactly fits your mood, so you really enjoy it. Happening at the moment with this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48gkIjBi1Lo

Scubadevils

Just looking at a thread over in the music forum of crap album covers, Jesus there are some unreal covers!!!

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056086119

Zascar

I'm sitting in the airport (again, sigh) and the amount of people with iPad's etc is amazing. I'm pretty jealous, I might ask Santa for an Android tablet. Anyone know any good value ones? ipads are nice but crazy expensive imo...

joker77

Zascar wrote: »

I'm sitting in the airport (again, sigh) and the amount of people with iPad's etc is amazing. I'm pretty jealous, I might ask Santa for an Android tablet. Anyone know any good value ones? ipads are nice but crazy expensive imo...

Wowzers - just took a look at the apple store - 500 for the entry level?

Fúck right off apple, just fúck right off.

Was contemplating going for the iPhone 4, have never owned an iPhone, but I just don't think I can bring myself to buying anything apple. Never have, prob never will.

Am swaying towards a HTC Desire HD - although 3 are acting the maggot and haven't got them in stock yet. Supposed to be in on the 6th December, latest date now is the 15th. I'm due an upgrade so I can the regular Desire for 19 euro, pretty decent (the iPhone 4 is 109 on upgrade). Dunno how much the Desire HD will be yet.

seannash

joker77 wrote: »

Wowzers - just took a look at the apple store - 500 for the entry level?

Fúck right off apple, just fúck right off.

Was contemplating going for the iPhone 4, have never owned an iPhone, but I just don't think I can bring myself to buying anything apple. Never have, prob never will.

Am swaying towards a HTC Desire HD - although 3 are acting the maggot and haven't got them in stock yet. Supposed to be in on the 6th December, latest date now is the 15th. I'm due an upgrade so I can the regular Desire for 19 euro, pretty decent (the iPhone 4 is 109 on upgrade). Dunno how much the Desire HD will be yet.

350 if you can get it from the US.:)

seannash

Zascar wrote: »

I'm sitting in the airport (again, sigh) and the amount of people with iPad's etc is amazing. I'm pretty jealous, I might ask Santa for an Android tablet. Anyone know any good value ones? ipads are nice but crazy expensive imo...

Samsung Galaxy Tab


http://www.zdnet.com/blog/mobile-gadgeteer/updated-hands-on-with-the-sprint-samsung-galaxy-tab/4191

joker77

seannash wrote: »

Samsung Galaxy Tab


http://www.zdnet.com/blog/mobile-gadgeteer/updated-hands-on-with-the-sprint-samsung-galaxy-tab/4191

3 are offering me that for 189. Think I need a new phone more than that though

Android 666

Scubadevils wrote: »

Just looking at a thread over in the music forum of crap album covers, Jesus there are some unreal covers!!!

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056086119

Counteract that with a bit of Sleevage:
http://sleevage.com/

You're guaranteed to want to buy most of these albums based on their covers.

BaZmO*

Just back from a gig in Tripod. Two Door Cinema Club. Probably not to everybody's taste but I thought they were amazing.
The one thing that struck though was that they played a few dance tunes during the sound checks before the band came on, and all the kids were going mental for it. Sign of the times. I remember how polarised things used to be when going to gigs years ago. It'd always be the same stuff throughout. Suppose it's a good thing that there's such a cross pollination of genres nowadays.

Brilliant gig though.

Is mise le key

ianuss wrote: »

I don't believe that to be true. It's an argument high in rhetoric, low on fact. In order for me to start to believe that, you'd need to be able to back it up with some evidence.

:pac:

You have heard the term banana republic yes,

Wiki wrote:

The purpose of a banana republic is commercial profit by collusion between the State and favoured monopolies, whereby the profits derived from private exploitation of public lands is private property, and the debts incurred are public responsibility. Such an imbalanced economy reduces the national currency to devalued paper-money, hence the country is ineligible for international development credit and remains limited by the uneven economic development of town and country.
Kleptocracy, government by thieves, features influential government employees exploiting their posts for personal gain (embezzlement, fraud, bribery, etc.), with the resultant deficit repaid by the native working people who “earn money”, rather than “make money”. Because of foreign (corporate) manipulation, the government is unaccountable to its nation, the country's private sector–public sector corruption operates the banana republic, thus, the national legislature usually are for sale, and function mostly as ceremonial government.

Sounds awfully familiar but this term was coined long before little old ireland was fuc.ked over, you should read this book which i found very informative & well referenced & researched which gives account of the economies & governments that were created, controlled & collapsed in central america & other parts of the globe,

America rules

ianuss wrote: »

There isn't a bunch of reptillian headed capitalists controlling global markets from the centre of the moon :pac:

jtsuited wrote: »

global capitalism being controlled by a shady elite of greed driven deviants (who may or may not be reptiles)?

Personally, I find the bildeberg type arguments flaky in the extreme, but at least entertaining.

Android 666 wrote: »

Now Jim Corr makes no mention of the Zionists but scratch beneath the surface and this is essentially where the theory is coming from.

francois wrote: »

Jim Corr is a nut, albeit an amusing one, the problem with some conspiracy theories, such as the protocols of the elders of zion is that they have been used to justify mass murder.
I just don't get the 9/11 inside job nonsense either-There would have been too many people involved for it to work

Disclaimer-i do not work for big corp/pharma/govt

Cool the jets lads, what ever happened to rational, logical discussion & debate around political/economic forces?

I think it is time for another law similar to Fiachras law to be drawn up as it appears that discusssion, such as the type we were having, seems to lead to references to David Ike or jim Corr ultimatley, i have never referenced either individuals in the course of discussing what i beleive around the forces at work in the world on this thread, forum, website or anywhere as i know nothing about either of them except that Jim corr was in a band, i have never read any literature published by either of them. It appears that unknowingly to you guys, you are offering up these guys as the root of where the conversation is coming from which is being very presumptuous & a little irrational.

milltown

The best book I have read on the collusion and cartels that go on at the top of the food chain. Maybe a little out of date now but eye opening stuff.

Android 666

The Jim Corr thing was not aimed at you in particular le mise, I've had a few discussion recently with people about it and the level of credence the man is getting now is astonishing.

Is mise le key wrote: »

Where is the conspiracy? with all the professsional people running the show do you really beleive that the way things unnfold are left to chance?

Em yeah, it is. Or do you believe that the sub prime mortgage crisis and the collapse of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac along with several banks in the US was part of a conspiracy to bankrupt Ireland and make us take a loan out with the IMF?

Is mise le key wrote: »

Economies are controlled, created & when nearing the end of their natural cycle prepared for in advance, thats not a conspiracy, thats how capitalism works

Funnily enough the neoliberal politics that got us into this situation are about removing regulation and control from the system and endorsing rampant capitalism. If the type of planning you talk about existed there would have been no bubbles and subsequent crashes occurring. Look at our property bubble and the property and dot com bubbles in the states. These occurred because there was no planning or foresight on the part of governments. They were letting markets dictate through slack regulation.

Android 666

Great book to read to help explain the way market forces work. Obviously a bit dated now but still very relevant.

ianuss

Good capitalists http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/1209/charity-business.html

Android 666

francois

Looks like that toilet roll diet isn't working

Android 666

francois wrote: »

Looks like that toilet roll diet isn't working

I think Byron is just proud to be awake.

copeyhagen

seen that posted in "you laugh you lose" over in ah, very good.

was planning on buying a new system this xmas, plan was:
traktor pro
cdj 350 x 2
mixer

but having done a bit of research on that setup it appears the cdj350s arnt great with traktor, the jogwheels cant be used or some ****.

i dont like the look of te s4 so thats out.

so having spent all week reading reviews, came across:
http://www.digitaldjtips.com/2010/12/single-jogwheel-dj-midi-controllers-review/

they gave the denon dn-sc2000 5 out of 5.

seems to be a very good controller and priced reasonably. plus a pair of them could be used to control 4 decks in traktor. perfect.

gonna buy 2 of them and soundwise instead of a 2 or 4dj im going for a umix 44, its on the above site in their "soundcards under 130$" section and they also gave it 5 out of 5.

might throw an a*h 1d into the mix to act as a mixer.

what yas reckon

jtsuited

Is mise, I totally see where you're coming from on all this however I think it's important to see the wood from the trees.

It's one hell of a leap of faith to go from the US militarily interfering in numerous banana republics to a small shadowy enclave of capitalists engineering the world's economy in such a perfectly clinical fashion.

If you want to look at the US's typical method in all it's glory, google search the following keywords : CIA, contras, Nicaragua, Oliver North. It's an old story but it pretty much frames everything the US have done since WW2 in a different light.

Oh and read some Chomsky: Hegemony or Survival is good. Failed States is pretty decent, and then all his stuff about the mass media is absolutely essential.

But what gets my goat is the fact that guys like Corr genuinely deligitimise a lot of perfectly valid dissent (as Is mise was quick to point out).

The way I see it, there are two fairly distinct camps in the critique of global capitalism....
Camp A is made up of highly educated but slightly emotive writers like Noam Chomsky, Naomi Klein etc, who put forward their points very well, but are maybe still clinging to utopian visions of the future a bit too much.

Camp B is made up of not very educated or intelligent people who are genuinely just paranoid. And I mean paranoid in the medical sense. If any of you have ever suffered from Schizophrenia or any schizo-affective disorder (or has known anyone who has), you'll know that often the paranoia can manifest in such a way that they make a fairly convincing argument by looking for evidence after their theory has been drawn.

The Bildeberg, Illuminati, the Queen is a Lizard conspiracy theories all vary in their amounts of validity, but are all underpinned by taking a theory and then filling in the blanks to validate it.

milltown

Anyone listening to Damien Enright on Newstalk earlier?
Sounds like a fascinating character. Talking about his book, a memoir type effort about living in Ibiza in the early 60's and experimenting with psychadelic drugs, and some of the ways he raised what little money he needed.

Added the book to my Amazon cart for future consideration anyway.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1907593012/ref=pd_luc_mri?ie=UTF8&m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

francois

Worth it for the rant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koY6kXhQDQo

Android 666

Is mise le key

Android 666 wrote: »

Em yeah, it is. Or do you believe that the sub prime mortgage crisis and the collapse of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac along with several banks in the US was part of a conspiracy to bankrupt Ireland and make us take a loan out with the IMF?



Funnily enough the neoliberal politics that got us into this situation are about removing regulation and control from the system and endorsing rampant capitalism. If the type of planning you talk about existed there would have been no bubbles and subsequent crashes occurring. Look at our property bubble and the property and dot com bubbles in the states. These occurred because there was no planning or foresight on the part of governments. They were letting markets dictate through slack regulation.

I hear what your saying, and on the surface if you were reading what you wrote without understanding how fractional lending works you would beleive that there is no way it could be engineered if disasterous downturns like these that decimate business & people occur, but the most simple facts are being lost in all this, the overwhelming majority of debt that is out there from banks to business is not real & never was real money, it can be written off withouut dire consequences to the 'lenders' as long as they maintain there original reserves.
Why dont they do this then? Because as has been pointed out already on this thread ages back recessionary times are only recessionary times for ordinary folks like me & you, bondholders feel no 'pain' as it is only debt on paper that they stand to lose & as we have seen then recently more debt is ready to be offered to the ordinary people at interest & thus continuing the capitalist profitteering.
So yes the cycle of capitalism is not fully in their control as to when it comes to an end, but the end is known a good while before it happens & more debt readied to be distributed & prepared for.
The natural cycle of boom & bust of capitalism does not affect the elite at the top of the chain, it only affects to folks at the bottom.

This has been discussed already on this thread in the past & same conclusions come to.