You are not a f*cking DJ. You’re an overpaid, untalented, cake-throwing c*nt.

BaZmO*

seannash wrote: »

Ah Cmon,are you saying that you act professionally every single minute of the day your in work?

I'm not a Gard though, and as such it's not expected of me. It's not comparing like with like.

jtsuited

Is mise le key wrote: »

And what in the sweet name of jesus has your encounters with the garda got to do with anything?

I have many a story about garda from Crumlin station, tallaght station, rathmines station, terenure station & the whole point of it is that i can tell you about garda from them stations that are PIGS & yes they have definetley earned the name & some who are sound guys & have proven their humanity in situations i witnessed first hand.

my point was that I know exactly first hand what kind of scum certain garda can be.

but in this case, I genuinely don't think there's much to make a fuss about.

BaZmO*

And for the record, I fvcking hate when people use the term "Pig" when referring to police.

seannash

BaZmO* wrote: »

I'm not a Gard though, and as such it's not expected of me. It's not comparing like with like.

Yes i understand that but you must realise that no matter what title you have you dont behave professionally at all times,its only human to have friendships in work and as such have unprofessional conversations with work colleagues

You basically want robots doing the guards work

Is mise le key

jtsuited wrote: »

Only by a certain part of the media. If a Garda gets killed on duty, I for one just think it's a guy who has experienced an occupational hazard.

Tabloids like to ham it up, but a Garda or a soldier being killed on duty is just an inevitability of the job.

So the guy who was blown up in omagh just suffered an occupational hazard.

BaZmO* wrote: »

And for the record, I fvcking hate when people use the term "Pig" when referring to police.

I reference anyone who displays such a disregard for their fellow humans as PIGS, i.e. Obama, Blair, bush etc etc.

seannash

BaZmO* wrote: »

And for the record, I fvcking hate when people use the term "Pig" when referring to police.

Agree,Its a horrible name

jtsuited

Is mise le key wrote: »

So the guy who was blown up in omagh just suffered an occupational hazard.

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yes. being a police officer has certain occupational hazards. dying at the hands of scumbag terrorists in a crime that is beyond horrible is one of them.

jtsuited

Is mise le key wrote: »

I reference anyone who displays such a disregard for their fellow humans as PIGS, i.e. Obama, Blair, bush etc etc.

but why pigs? They're not one of the more sociopathic creatures - unlike cats.

seannash

Is mise le key wrote: »

So the guy who was blown up in omagh just suffered an occupational hazard.



I reference anyone who displays such a disregard for their fellow humans as PIGS, i.e. Obama, Blair, bush etc etc.

Back to the CT forum with ya Is Mise
And to be honest weve all shown disregard for our fellow man at some stage
we've all flicked past the trocaire ads whilst eating a takeaway at some stage of our lives

BaZmO*

jtsuited wrote: »

Only by a certain part of the media. If a Garda gets killed on duty, I for one just think it's a guy who has experienced an occupational hazard.

Tabloids like to ham it up, but a Garda or a soldier being killed on duty is just an inevitability of the job.

That's BS. Look at the amount of coverage in the last few days of the PSNI officer who got murdered. That was from all sections of the media, not just tabloids.

seannash wrote: »

Yes i understand that but you must realise that no matter what title you have you dont behave professionally at all times,its only human to have friendships in work and as such have unprofessional conversations with work colleagues

You basically want robots doing the guards work

No, just professionals that can treat others with respect.

Android 666

Is mise le key wrote: »

I reference anyone who displays such a disregard for their fellow humans as PIGS, i.e. Obama, Blair, bush etc etc.

Really? I only use it for Jews, black people and women…

seannash

jtsuited wrote: »

but why pigs? They're not one of the more sociopathic creatures - unlike cats.

Thats a good point
Although it would be quite funny to hear a bunch of yobs calling the guards cats

Android 666

seannash wrote: »

Thats a good point
Although it would be quite funny to hear a bunch of yobs calling the guards cats

It would sound very jazz:

'Check out that cat over there. Dig it.'

jtsuited

seannash wrote: »

we've all flicked past the trocaire ads whilst eating a takeaway at some stage of our lives

that is an awful example to be fair.

jtsuited

BaZmO* wrote: »

That's BS. Look at the amount of coverage in the last few days of the PSNI officer who got murdered. That was from all sections of the media, not just tabloids.
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er, hold on.......we only had one Irish paper which wasn't a tabloid (the Times). And that's a fact that's questionable now anyways.

But you'll find the papers that get most up in arms about police being killed are the tabloids.
A cop being killed is a martyr for the moral majority and so the media as a whole hams it up to differing degrees depending on their standards.

Is mise le key

jtsuited wrote: »

but why pigs? They're not one of the more sociopathic creatures - unlike cats.

To quote pulp fiction,

'Pigs eat & root in shít & dont have the common sense to disregard their own fecies'

Thus showing how inadvertantly they have earned the name of such a dirty animal by displaying such disrespect to their fellow humans.

seannash wrote: »

Back to the CT forum with ya Is Mise
And to be honest weve all shown disregard for our fellow man at some stage
we've all flicked past the trocaire ads whilst eating a takeaway at some stage of our lives

So we disregard all moral behavior & excuse it all if we have at any point in our lives done something that is not 100% morally right towards someone else? please sean i know you dont actually beleive that.

ianuss

It's a little unrealistic to expect Gardai to act like saints all the time whilst on duty. They get paid fcuk all and have to deal with complete cnuts a huge amount of the time. In this case, they're talking inapproriately - that's it. If one of them actually rapes someone, then you'll have an issue.

And if you think what those lads were saying is inappropriate you'd be having a hissy fit at some of the antics firemen get up to. I've a few firemen friends and the stories I hear off these lads are mental.

BaZmO*

Just on the subject on the PSNI officer that was murdered the other day. I think it was Skynews that I was watching, and they had a reporter at the scene talking about the tragedy and how it was a waste of human life, etc., etc. and while he was telling us this there was a ticker at the bottom of the screen telling us about 20 civilians that were killed in Afghanistan, and another 15 killed in Libya. I guess they're not tragedies though, just statistics.

Android 666

Is mise le key wrote: »

To quote pulp fiction,

'Pigs eat & root in shít & dont have the common sense to disregard their own fecies'

Thus showing how inadvertantly they have earned the name of such a dirty animal by displaying such disrespect to their fellow humans.

So are you comparing your fellow humans to faeces? That's a pretty bleak worldview there is mise…

jtsuited

BaZmO* wrote: »

Just on the subject on the PSNI officer that was murdered the other day. I think it was Skynews that I was watching, and they had a reporter at the scene talking about the tragedy and how it was a waste of human life, etc., etc. and while he was telling us this there was a ticker at the bottom of the screen telling us about 20 civilians that were killed in Afghanistan, and another 15 killed in Libya. I guess they're not tragedies though, just statistics.

but this is my point. a police officer or a soldier being killed is not classed as a death of an innocent.

innocent civilians being bombed/tortured/fcuked by a more brutal force legitimised by western governments is a far more horrendous tragedy.

seannash

jtsuited wrote: »

that is an awful example to be fair.

Its an awful example but its everything someone has done at one stage.
Those ads are really horrible(in an upsetting way) But it does show were capable of showing complete disregard for other people

Android 666

BaZmO* wrote: »

Just on the subject on the PSNI officer that was murdered the other day. I think it was Skynews that I was watching, and they had a reporter at the scene talking about the tragedy and how it was a waste of human life, etc., etc. and while he was telling us this there was a ticker at the bottom of the screen telling us about 20 civilians that were killed in Afghanistan, and another 15 killed in Libya. I guess they're not tragedies though, just statistics.

Ah, sure you can't have sympathy with Arabs. They're all mentallers!

Is mise le key

Android 666 wrote: »

So are you comparing your fellow humans to faeces? That's a pretty bleak worldview there is mise…

No, affording the name PIG to certain humans by way their actions towards their fellow humans.

francois

BaZmO* wrote: »

Just on the subject on the PSNI officer that was murdered the other day. I think it was Skynews that I was watching, and they had a reporter at the scene talking about the tragedy and how it was a waste of human life, etc., etc. and while he was telling us this there was a ticker at the bottom of the screen telling us about 20 civilians that were killed in Afghanistan, and another 15 killed in Libya. I guess they're not tragedies though, just statistics.

To quote Stalin

"One death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic.”

seannash

Is mise le key wrote: »

To quote pulp fiction,

'Pigs eat & root in shít & dont have the common sense to disregard their own fecies'

Thus showing how inadvertantly they have earned the name of such a dirty animal by displaying such disrespect to their fellow humans.



So we disregard all moral behavior & excuse it all if we have at any point in our lives done something that is not 100% morally right towards someone else? please sean i know you dont actually beleive that.

No your right we've all done it at one stage or another,just like these guards didnt display any regard during this conversation,but you wouldnt label yourself a pig for any of the times youve done something that dsregards human suffering

The guards in question could be saints outside work,they could give to charity,volunteer at shelters in there spare time but you have taken this one conversation and judged them to be "pigs"

jtsuited

seannash wrote: »

Its an awful example but its everything someone has done at one stage.
Those ads are really horrible(in an upsetting way) But it does show were capable of showing complete disregard for other people

no but my point is, Trocaire are a missionary organisation. Seeing starving children being presented by Trocaire in order to carry out their work and disregarding it isn't the same as disregarding starving children because of pure self interest.

seannash

jtsuited wrote: »

no but my point is, Trocaire are a missionary organisation. Seeing starving children being presented by Trocaire in order to carry out their work and disregarding it isn't the same as disregarding starving children because of pure self interest.

Ah i know its more disregarding the medium not the message but it does make us aware of it and we dont choose to do anything about it.

jtsuited

Is mise le key wrote: »

To quote pulp fiction,

'Pigs eat & root in shít & dont have the common sense to disregard their own fecies'
.

haha that's your reasoning behind it. I think you left a bit out because there's nothing there about empathy or regard for fellow pigs/any other creatures.

Now as far as I'm aware these guards weren't caught not 'disregarding their faeces' (shouldn't that be discarding?). They were caught making tasteless jokes.

Is mise le key

seannash wrote: »

No your right we've all done it at one stage or another,just like these guards didnt display any regard during this conversation,but you wouldnt label yourself a pig for any of the times youve done something that dsregards human suffering

The guards in question could be saints outside work,they could give to charity,volunteer at shelters in there spare time but you have taken this one conversation and judged them to be "pigs"

OK i see your point but if i think back about anything ive done that affected someone else badly i feel remorseful about it & would say i was acting like a PIG at the time.

I take your point that they may not be totally bad guys but i cant help but think, three garda talking in this way about a woman protesting would most likeley be in the section of gardai that are PIGS, but they may not also.

BaZmO*

jtsuited wrote: »

er, hold on.......we only had one Irish paper which wasn't a tabloid (the Times). And that's a fact that's questionable now anyways.

But you'll find the papers that get most up in arms about police being killed are the tabloids.
A cop being killed is a martyr for the moral majority and so the media as a whole hams it up to differing degrees depending on their standards.

One or two stories about it in the Times
And it was all over the Media.. Radio, TV, etc. Not just the print media. To say otherwise is just being disingenuous.

jtsuited wrote: »

but this is my point. a police officer or a soldier being killed is not classed as a death of an innocent.

innocent civilians being bombed/tortured/fcuked by a more brutal force legitimised by western governments is a far more horrendous tragedy.

Huh, that’s my point. I said Police are afforded a higher standing in society, and because of this they expected to act accordingly, especially in the line of duty. Downtime, they can say what they like.

Is mise le key wrote: »

No, affording the name PIG to certain humans by way their actions towards their fellow humans.

Ah Mise, that’s BS. The only time you’d call another human a Pig (that’s not in the Police) is when they’re being gluttonous, i.e. “Making a pig of the themselves”
There’s no way you’d look at some morally reprehensible character and say, “That guy is a pig!”

francois wrote: »

To quote Stalin

"One death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic.”

Well that’s what I was alluding to, without actually giving the exact quote.