You are not a f*cking DJ. You’re an overpaid, untalented, cake-throwing c*nt.

jtsuited

seannash wrote: »

Ah i know its more disregarding the medium not the message but it does make us aware of it and we dont choose to do anything about it.

well I'd argue, that in many cases (including my own), people know there is absolutely fcuk all that can be done about it in the bigger picture. Cancelling the debt was seen as the only way to make a difference, but that did fcuk all. Humanitarian aid has fcuked up things in the long run because it's not a feasible permanent solution.

I think if people think they can actually help by giving money to Trocaire etc., and choose not to, then yes that is a complete disregard for other human beings based on self interest. But I would hope that if people held that false opinion (that giving money to Trocaire will cause good in this world), that they would actually give money.

Android 666

jtsuited wrote: »

no but my point is, Trocaire are a missionary organisation. Seeing starving children being presented by Trocaire in order to carry out their work and disregarding it isn't the same as disregarding starving children because of pure self interest.

There is also the view that giving to aid is as effective a way of keeping corrupt governments in power in the third world as anything the US have ever done:

http://www.policynetwork.net/development/media/foreign-aid-funds-corruption-new-study-reveals

http://www.suite101.com/content/why-foreign-aid-has-failed-to-develop-africa-a105438

jtsuited

BaZmO* wrote: »

Huh, that’s my point. I said Police are afforded a higher standing in society, and because of this they expected to act accordingly, especially in the line of duty. Downtime, they can say what they like.

ok fair enough, point taken.

jtsuited

Android 666 wrote: »

There is also the view that giving to aid is as effective a way of keeping corrupt governments in power in the third world as anything the US have ever done:

http://www.policynetwork.net/development/media/foreign-aid-funds-corruption-new-study-reveals

http://www.suite101.com/content/why-foreign-aid-has-failed-to-develop-africa-a105438

that's actually my view. charitable humanitarian aid achieves two things - 1. eases the western world of its guilt through some gesturing, and 2. puts a plaster over something that needs a serious fixing, not least because it was Western Colonial powers that fcuked it up to this extent in the first place.

ianuss

A lucky escape

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnWOhkrP1bY

And some of these were not so lucky

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWfGBfuaGls

BaZmO*

ianuss wrote: »

They get paid fcuk all

Really?

ianuss wrote: »

And if you think what those lads were saying is inappropriate you'd be having a hissy fit at some of the antics firemen get up to. I've a few firemen friends and the stories I hear off these lads are mental.

While on duty at the scene of an incident, and directed at a member of the public?

jtsuited

BaZmO* wrote: »

Really?



While on duty at the scene of an incident, and directed at a member of the public?

er, the Guards weren't at the scene of an incident in this case, and they were not (to my knowledge) directing anything to a member of the public.

Android 666

jtsuited wrote: »

that's actually my view. charitable humanitarian aid achieves two things - 1. eases the western world of its guilt through some gesturing, and 2. puts a plaster over something that needs a serious fixing, not least because it was Western Colonial powers that fcuked it up to this extent in the first place.

Yeah, I remember reading an article, which I think was tied in with a book review for a book I can no longer remember the name of, which gave a very jaundiced view of aid organisations and their carry on in crisis areas. The most petty point I remember reading was of charities sticking their logos over other those of other charities in an effort to get more publicity when footage was shown on the news.

Also, there's been a near exponential growth in the amount of charity organisations out there all vying for the public money and it means none of the money is used effectively in any way, shape or form

Android 666

BaZmO* wrote: »

While on duty at the scene of an incident, and directed at a member of the public?

The video footage shows the guards talking amongst themselves - nothing was directed at a member of the public.

BaZmO*

jtsuited wrote: »

er, the Guards weren't at the scene of an incident in this case, and they were not (to my knowledge) directing anything to a member of the public.

Ah jaysis Jeff, you're just nitpicking now. My point is in reference to the Firemen statement by Ian.

Comparing comments made by friends who are Firemen while off duty is not the same as comments made by Gards, while on duty, (which they were) at members of the public specifically, although not directly.

I’ve problem with them talking about them, it’s just the content that’s questionable.


As an aside, what do people think about Frankie Boyle’s comment/joke about Jordan’s kid?

jtsuited

BaZmO* wrote: »

As an aside, what do people think about Frankie Boyle’s comment/joke about Jordan’s kid?

was pretty funny.

Android 666

BaZmO* wrote: »

As an aside, what do people think about Frankie Boyle’s comment/joke about Jordan’s kid?

A very guilty laugh if I'm being honest.

I'm not really a fan of your man Boyle. He has the look of the fat ginger kid who everybody bullied in school and now he's out for revenge.

Just read the Mail online 'outrage' at the story. Last paragraph is classic:

In November 2007, Heat magazine gave away a sticker bearing a picture of Harvey next to the words 'Harvey wants to eat me'.
The then editor Mark Frith apologised and said 'no offence was intended.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1337095/Katie-Price-wants-apology-Frankie-Boyles-sexual-slur-disabled-son-Harvey.html

ianuss

BaZmO* wrote: »

Really?



While on duty at the scene of an incident, and directed at a member of the public?

Yes and yes.

jtsuited

Android 666 wrote: »

. He has the look of the fat ginger kid who everybody bullied in school and now he's out for revenge.

you say that like it's a bad thing!

Is mise le key

BaZmO* wrote: »

Ah Mise, that’s BS. The only time you’d call another human a Pig (that’s not in the Police) is when they’re being gluttonous, i.e. “Making a pig of the themselves”
There’s no way you’d look at some morally reprehensible character and say, “That guy is a pig!”

No sorry baz, thats just how you would use the refernece, if i see someone like lets say Wayne rooney when he was doing the dirt on his missus when pregnanat as a PIG of a human being.

Android 666

jtsuited wrote: »

you say that like it's a bad thing!

But ginger kids are weird!!! They're all freckly and prone to skin cancer…

Android 666

Is mise le key wrote: »

No sorry baz, thats just how you would use the refernece, if i see someone like lets say Wayne rooney when he was doing the dirt on his missus when pregnanat as a PIG of a human being.

Ah, I'd have said that Wayne was being a bit council…

jtsuited

Is mise le key wrote: »

No sorry baz, thats just how you would use the refernece, if i see someone like lets say Wayne rooney when he was doing the dirt on his missus when pregnanat as a PIG of a human being.

huh? Pigs are adulterers now?
Way more promiscuous animals out there to be fair.

BaZmO*

ianuss wrote: »

Yes

Even with overtime, I find that hard to believe.

ianuss wrote: »

and yes.

Pity that. But in fairness to Firemen, they do actually put their lives at risk on a daily basis so I suppose what ever it takes to release the pressure.

Is mise le key wrote: »

No sorry baz, thats just how you would use the refernece, if i see someone like lets say Wayne rooney when he was doing the dirt on his missus when pregnanat as a PIG of a human being.

I'll have to take your word on that one.

Is mise le key

I dont get the confusion of comparing people in a derogatory way because of their actions that affects others as a PIG

Why do you call someone 'scum'?

Is it because what they do is in someway replicating the production of a residual substance:rolleyes:

Come on lads you do get calling someone a 'PIG' doesnt mean you are comaparing the actions of said animal with what they are doing?

joker77

jtsuited wrote: »

that's actually my view. charitable humanitarian aid achieves two things - 1. eases the western world of its guilt through some gesturing, and 2. puts a plaster over something that needs a serious fixing, not least because it was Western Colonial powers that fcuked it up to this extent in the first place.

Sad but true, although I'd argue most of the people involved in humanitarian work are doing it for the right reasons

jtsuited

Is mise le key wrote: »

I dont get the confusion of comparing people in a derogatory way because of their actions that affects others as a PIG

Why do you call someone 'scum'?

Is it because what they do is in someway replicating the production of a residual substance:rolleyes:

Come on lads you do get calling someone a 'PIG' doesnt mean you are comaparing the actions of said animal with what they are doing?

Well scum makes sense because scum can often refer to unwanted algae that reproduce rampantly and end up destroying all other life in their environment by merely draining all the resources to exhaustion. Also, it is seen that micro-organisms normally referred to as scum are without conciousness.

Pigs aren't particularly known for their lack of empathy, or their adulterous nature. They are seen as being dirty because of a lot of socially constructed concepts.
A newborn baby does not have a revulsion to faeces, does that make them oh so awful that we should call other people who display completely different behaviour as 'newborns'?

joker77

Is mise le key wrote: »

I dont get the confusion of comparing people in a derogatory way because of their actions that affects others as a PIG

Why do you call someone 'scum'?

Is it because what they do is in someway replicating the production of a residual substance:rolleyes:

Come on lads you do get calling someone a 'PIG' doesnt mean you are comaparing the actions of said animal with what they are doing?

methinks they're baiting...

Is mise le key

jtsuited wrote: »

Well scum makes sense because scum can often refer to unwanted algae that reproduce rampantly and end up destroying all other life in their environment by merely draining all the resources to exhaustion. Also, it is seen that micro-organisms normally referred to as scum are without conciousness.

Ah yes thats what is in the back of everyones mind when they use the term:rolleyes:

jtsuited wrote: »

Pigs aren't particularly known for their lack of empathy, or their adulterous nature. They are seen as being dirty because of a lot of socially constructed concepts.
A newborn baby does not have a revulsion to faeces, does that make them oh so awful that we should call other people who display completely different behaviour as 'newborns'?

If only quentin had thought of this reply to Jules when he said about pigs not having the sense to disregard their own shít,

jtsuited

Is mise le key wrote: »

Ah yes thats what is in the back of everyones mind when they use the term:rolleyes:



If only quentin had thought of this reply to Jules when he said about pigs not having the sense to disregard their own shít,

tbf, if I had been brought in as a script consultant, it would have been a better film.:p

Is mise le key

jtsuited wrote: »

tbf, if I had been brought in as a script consultant, it would have been a better film.:p

Well one thing is for sure, your arrogance knows no bounds jeff, just what we need in a physicist:eek:

jtsuited

Is mise le key wrote: »

Well one thing is for sure, your arrogance knows no bounds jeff, just what we need in a physicist:eek:

haha only windin ya up but I can tell you the one thing I won't be in my life is a physicist. where did ya get that notion from?

ianuss

BaZmO* wrote: »

Even with overtime, I find that hard to believe.

But overtime is extra work, not free money - and it's certainly not infinite, and you're not guaranteed to get it. Being a Garda is not a well paid job.


I have as much disdain for the Gardai as the next person, but the truth is, it's a horrible job......dealing with deadheads, knackers and total cnuts on a daily basis - for hours a day! They're only human. I just think that to hold the Gardai up to be whiter than white all the time is totally unreasonable. They're poorly paid and very poorly trained.

Is mise le key

jtsuited wrote: »

haha only windin ya up but I can tell you the one thing I won't be in my life is a physicist. where did ya get that notion from?

Sorry just thinking back now did you not say you were studying physics at home there a while back?

jtsuited

Is mise le key wrote: »

Sorry just thinking back now did you not say you were studying physics at home there a while back?

I was yeah but not to become a physicist. It's far worse than you thought Is Mise, I'm trying to become a doctor! As if I didn't have a Messiah complex before