You are not a f*cking DJ. You’re an overpaid, untalented, cake-throwing c*nt.

Is mise le key

ianuss wrote: »

I don't think he was specifically saying that Jamaican culture was responsible at all......................... I think Starkey was trying to say that that sort of 'black culture' was damaging society as a whole.

Fo real!! in it.

BaZmO*

and ting

ianuss

Ye blud, Starkey is badman and tings, innit.

copeyhagen

Lethal_Bullet wrote: »

Peats on Dame St just over from the central bank would be closest then.


What spec is the laptop? Sound skips can be caused by a few things but usually is easily sorted.

toshiba satellite l450d
windows 7 32bit
2 gig ram
etc

it ran traktor pro and my xone 3d no problems, and all my other controllers under xp

Android 666

ianuss wrote: »

Starkey's point I think was born out of his time on Jamie Oliver's show about phuckup school kids. He found a culture whereby young people just don't care, are openly cheeky, disrespectful and aggressive (and I was absoultely no angel in school by any means btw). And also, the white kids speak like that too. Even ones from well off backgrounds. It's as if you have to speak like, and act like a gangsta knobhead to fit in. I think Starkey was trying to say that that sort of 'black culture' was damaging society as a whole.

But isn't the slang just a way for people to exclude others - like if you don't know what a blud is your clueless and tings innit. It doesn't matter if the origin of the slang is Jamaican patios or not.

Also rap culture is a reflection of gang mentality imo not the origination of it. I think it's unfair to blame it squarely on black culture. Didn't white cockney gang culture not also popularise money, power, dominance and aggression? Also cockney slang is incomprehensible unless your familiar with it - same as the Jamaican patios. I think it's a socio-economic issue not a race issue.

Is mise le key

Android 666 wrote: »

But isn't the slang just a way for people to exclude others - like if you don't know what a blud is your clueless and tings innit. It doesn't matter if the origin of the slang is Jamaican patios or not.

Also rap culture is a reflection of gang mentality imo not the origination of it. I think it's unfair to blame it squarely on black culture. Didn't white cockney gang culture not also popularise money, power, dominance and aggression? Also cockney slang is incomprehensible unless your familiar with it - same as the Jamaican patios. I think it's a socio-economic issue not a race issue.

I assume you mean, Patois, and not the front of some jamaicans gaff?

ianuss

Android 666 wrote: »

But isn't the slang just a way for people to exclude others - like if you don't know what a blud is your clueless and tings innit. It doesn't matter if the origin of the slang is Jamaican patios or not.

Also rap culture is a reflection of gang mentality imo not the origination of it. I think it's unfair to blame it squarely on black culture. Didn't white cockney gang culture not also popularise money, power, dominance and aggression? Also cockney slang is incomprehensible unless your familiar with it - same as the Jamaican patios. I think it's a socio-economic issue not a race issue.

No, you've got it all wrong. It's Jamaican patois, not a Jamaican garden culture. But anyway, it's not a race issue, and he's not trying to say it is either (I think). The current rap culture, he maybe mistakenly called 'black culture'.

And you're probably right about the gang culture giving rise to to rap culture. And as for cockney gang culture, I don't think it was anything remotely as widespread as current 'black/rap culture'. If me or my mates ever tried to speak like that you would have had it ripped out of you.

Edit; Ha, you beat me to it Is Mise

francois

http://twitter.com/#!/111001001101010

BaZmO*

ianuss wrote: »

The current rap culture, he maybe mistakenly called 'black culture'.

I think that's the reason why he came in for so much stick.

Is mise le key

ianuss wrote: »

No, you've got it all wrong. It's Jamaican patois, not a Jamaican garden culture. But anyway, it's not a race issue, and he's not trying to say it is either (I think). The current rap culture, he maybe mistakenly called 'black culture'.

And you're probably right about the gang culture giving rise to to rap culture. And as for cockney gang culture, I don't think it was anything remotely as widespread as current 'black/rap culture'. If me or my mates ever tried to speak like that you would have had it ripped out of you.

Edit; Ha, you beat me to it Is Mise

Just on the rise of Rap, was it not hip Hop that really evolved into rap & then it was hijacked by gangsta rap?

I thought it was dudes like grandmaster flash that started it all off bigtime in the time around the breakdancing etc.

Android 666

Is mise le key wrote: »

I assume you mean, Patois, and not the front of some jamaicans gaff?

No I meant patios and the fact they were so neglected during the riots. Nobody thought of looting any garden furniture…

ianuss

I have no idea. I'm way too white to even have an opinion on rap or hip hop.

Android 666

Is mise le key wrote: »

Just on the rise of Rap, was it not hip Hop that really evolved into rap & then it was hijacked by gangsta rap?

I thought it was dudes like grandmaster flash that started it all off bigtime in the time around the breakdancing etc.

Yeah, you're right there Is mise. Once rap spread from the Bronx and New York it pretty quickly got submerged in gang culture, particularly in places like LA with the likes of NWA.

Is mise le key

Android 666 wrote: »

Yeah, you're right there Is mise. Once rap spread from the Bronx and New York it pretty quickly got submerged in gang culture, particularly in places like LA with the likes of NWA.

Yep, also i think there was a transition with Public enemy who were fairly political in there lyrics from Hip Hop to Gangsta rap.

Android 666

Is mise le key wrote: »

Yep, also i think there was a transition with Public enemy who were fairly political in there lyrics from Hip Hop to Gangsta rap.

Ah Public Enemy, the Mel Gibson of rap. Just don't mention the jews.

Also if you're going to mention Public Enemy you have to give a mention to KRS-One and before them Gil Scot Heron. Also Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five were fairly political with the likes of the Message and White Lines. Political hip hop is still being made but it's definitely more underground.

Mind you my knowledge of most hip hop would be sketchy

BaZmO*

The Roots were pretty political too.

I love the video to What They Do, totally rips the p1ss out of Rap videos.
Oddly enough the video is not available on Youtube any more, or at least the video with the subtitles that take the p1ss isn't.

Managed to find it on Daily Motion. Great video, have a watch if you can.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2pt1f_the-roots-what-they-do_music

joker77

Ha, good video

Have some albums from The Roots, really like The Tipping Point - the track Star is great.

In terms of hip hop - have seen Jurassic 5 a couple of times and they were pretty good live

BaZmO*

The Seed (2.0) is one of their best songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojC0mg2hJCc

francois

mmm

francois

MMM

BaZmO*

Going mad I can't go to this. Missed last years and I'll have to give this one a miss too.

I'll be definitely going to the one in the RDS next month though.

Didn't your OH play at this last year Joker?

joker77

Yea, got her guitar robbed for her trouble as well, wasn't happy.

The staff at Crawdaddy said she could leave it in a room that would be locked, came back next day - gone. Nobody accepted any responsibility. Lesson learnt I suppose.

What kind of scumbag steals a guitar?

It was a Washburn (I know nothing about guitars) - not particularly expensive, but rare enough in Dublin apparently

BaZmO*

Aw no way. What a total p1sser. Little scumbags. Although, you'd be surprised at who probably actually took it.

I'd be going mental at the person that told me it was ok to leave it there.

joker77

Yea same. If it was me I would have handled it differently, big row etc, but she's mates with Ruth who runs the beer fest... so...

cranky bollix

francois wrote: »

mmm

id probably end up drinking Guinness all day

francois

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFNYXJhjOGQ

cranky bollix

francois wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFNYXJhjOGQ

the mourinho influence

BaZmO*

cranky bollix wrote: »

the mourinho influence

Speaking of which.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjwYYI9S2N8

ianuss

BaZmO* wrote: »

Speaking of which.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjwYYI9S2N8

What a dirtbag.

Android 666

Did he take a load of pills before the match. What's with the great big gurning head on him?