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You are not a f*cking DJ. You’re an overpaid, untalented, cake-throwing c*nt.

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    #1112
    jimi_t2
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    jtsuited wrote: »
    haha, I'd say so.

    It's a funny one round my area. There are a couple of guys (about 2 teams of 5) that are at every table quiz going and they are damn good at it. I was once on their table and didn't contribute 1 unique answer.

    The really depressing thing is that the guys are total alcoholics and at least half of them are terminally unemployable. The amazing thing is a good few of them are technologically illiterate so everything they know, they have learnt outside the internet. Can you imagine what they'd be like if they were our wiki-devouring generation?

    There's a great little essay on that sort of thing in one of Bill Bryson's books talking about the difference between the University Challenge UK and US teams - basically the UK team would make it look like Cherry Orchard Vs. Chelsea but the US team would go on to be CEOs and multimillionaires whereas the UK team would end up growing beards and studying medieval madrigals in some arse-end of Cornwall with holes in their jumpers.


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    #1113
    BaZmO*
    Registered Users Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    jtsuited wrote: »
    The really depressing thing is that the guys are total alcoholics and at least half of them are terminally unemployable. The amazing thing is a good few of them are technologically illiterate so everything they know, they have learnt outside the internet. Can you imagine what they'd be like if they were our wiki-devouring generation?
    I'm not that convinced that the likes of Wiki has added that much to the general knowledge of the yuuff. If anything, you could argue that because of the availability of the likes of Wiki, people don't really need to know as much when it comes to general knowledge as they just need to google something to find out about it. Documentaries, books, newspapers, and just generally having an interest in things is the biggest factor. Look at the amount of "computer literate" kids out there that still can't fvcking spell when typing on a computer, and also haven't a fvcking clue what's going on in the world.


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    #1114
    jtsuited
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    yeah that's true. and I knew far more about the world before the internet I think.


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    #1115
    Android 666
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    jimi_t2 wrote: »
    There's a great little essay on that sort of thing in one of Bill Bryson's books talking about the difference between the University Challenge UK and US teams - basically the UK team would make it look like Cherry Orchard Vs. Chelsea but the US team would go on to be CEOs and multimillionaires whereas the UK team would end up growing beards and studying medieval madrigals in some arse-end of Cornwall with holes in their jumpers.

    That says a lot of about cultural differences between the US and UK in terms of the pursuit of knowledge and I think we as a nation fall somewhere in the middle. In England there still some respect for the pursuit of knowledge for the love of it and in America there needs to be some end result to that pursuit of knowledge. We seemed to be drawing closer and closer to the American ideal which is a bit sh1t.

    I like knowing things for the sake of it, not how it will benefit me.


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    #1116
    jtsuited
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    Android 666 wrote: »
    That says a lot of about cultural differences between the US and UK in terms of the pursuit of knowledge and I think we as a nation fall somewhere in the middle. In England there still some respect for the pursuit of knowledge for the love of it and in America there needs to be some end result to that pursuit of knowledge. We seemed to be drawing closer and closer to the American ideal which is a bit sh1t.

    it's a weird one, the American thing. I was in Harvard when I was 14 (my sister went to college there) for a week, and the American students thought I was like some sort of Stephen Fry.

    Now granted I'm above average (barely) when it comes to general knowledge, but in Ireland, you'll have someone who can normally better you or tell you something you didn't know, whereas over there, they're so not used to it that they become totally perplexed by knowledge that isn't taught in a formal environment.

    The English have a great tradition of fact retention (evidenced by the popularity of someone like Stephen Fry), and it seems to be embedded in the national conciousness, but in Ireland as you say, it could go either way right now.


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    #1117
    Pace2008
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    BaZmO* wrote: »
    I'm not that convinced that the likes of Wiki has added that much to the general knowledge of the yuuff. If anything, you could argue that because of the availability of the likes of Wiki, people don't really need to know as much when it comes to general knowledge as they just need to google something to find out about it. Documentaries, books, newspapers, and just generally having an interest in things is the biggest factor.
    I've learnt **** all from Wiki considering the amount of time I've spent on it. Potentially it's a great tool, but it's just too vast and the potential for distraction proves too much for me. You'd start out on a topic of interest, but end up clicking on link after link and go further down the rabbit hole till you're reading about farming techniques in central Europe at the start of the 17th century.


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    #1118
    jtsuited
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    jimi_t2 wrote: »
    There's a great little essay on that sort of thing in one of Bill Bryson's books talking about the difference between the University Challenge UK and US teams - basically the UK team would make it look like Cherry Orchard Vs. Chelsea but the US team would go on to be CEOs and multimillionaires whereas the UK team would end up growing beards and studying medieval madrigals in some arse-end of Cornwall with holes in their jumpers.

    I have a theory on that actually......in the US, bright people are a rarity and so are treasured and put into leadership positions by other people (which is human nature).
    In Britain, the class structure is so rigid. Nearly all the captains of industry and politicians went to the same schools and are definitively the 'ruling class'. It's so difficult to get into those old boys clubs.

    In America, because of the primary investment structure, rich people invest in bright people to make them money. It is one of the good arguments for capitalism imo.


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    #1119
    jtsuited
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    Pace2008 wrote: »
    I've learnt **** all from Wiki considering the amount of time I've spent on it. Potentially it's a great tool, but it's just too vast and the potential for distraction proves too much for me. You'd start out on a topic of interest, but end up clicking on link after link and go further down the rabbit hole till you're reading about farming techniques in central Europe at the start of the 17th century.

    hey nothing wrong with knowing pre-industrial revolution agricultural practices. The seed drill came up in a discussion here about laptop djing once. Now granted I was the one who brought it up, and it really didn't prove any points, but it still came up!


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    #1120
    Android 666
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    jtsuited wrote: »
    hey nothing wrong with knowing pre-industrial revolution agricultural practices. The seed drill came up in a discussion here about laptop djing once. Now granted I was the one who brought it up, and it really didn't prove any points, but it still came up!

    You were waiting years to bring up that nugget of information weren't you:

    DJ: I'm trying to figure out a way of broadcasting my mixes from my laptop.

    JT: Before the introduction of the seed drill, the common practice was to "broadcast" seeds by hand.

    DJ: ????


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    #1121
    jimi_t2
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    jtsuited wrote: »
    I have a theory on that actually......in the US, bright people are a rarity and so are treasured and put into leadership positions by other people (which is human nature).

    There's a bit of that, but then you have to look at the upper echelons of either industry or politics and count the amount of Skull and Bones members etc... In fact, purely by the cost of the Ivy Leagues there's a lot of barriers to entry that are negated only by nepotism and old money.
    In America, because of the primary investment structure, rich people invest in bright people to make them money. It is one of the good arguments for capitalism imo.

    Well there's some of that, but I still reckon that this is the more common result

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyg_v7Vxo4A


    The ruling/financial elite don't exactly want to lose their throne by virtue of their own endeavours.

    It's only esquire magazine level journalism, but Malcolm Gladwell's ''Outliers'' is a superb read purely for the stories about the original Silicon Valley and turn of the century Eastern European entrepeneurs and why exactly the succeeded. If you subscribe to his school of thought you'll see how many diverse mitigating factors are responsible for success under the American model - without being trite, being bright and motivated helps but it has as much to do with upbringing and being in the right place at the right time as anything else.


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    #1122
    jtsuited
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    oh don't get me wrong, America has the most grossly unfair system when it comes to education and money.
    I was merely explaining why when we compare the UK to the US, we see too many really bright guys in holey jumpers studying medieval history.


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    #1123
    electrogrimey
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    jtsuited wrote: »
    oh don't get me wrong, America has the most grossly unfair system when it comes to education and money.
    I was merely explaining why when we compare the UK to the US, we see too many really bright guys in holey jumpers studying medieval history.

    I'm studying Medieval History in Trinity, shurrup or I'll lance ye.


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    #1124
    Android 666
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    electrogrimey wrote: »
    I'm studying Medieval History in Trinity, shurrup or I'll lance ye.

    I see a bright future in my crystal ball…

    crystalball_427x318.jpg



    ;)


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    #1125
    BaZmO*
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    electrogrimey wrote: »
    I'm studying Medieval History in Trinity, shurrup or I'll lance ye.
    Reminds me of the old joke.......

    How do you know somebody is studying in Trinity?

    I think you can guess the rest... ;)


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    #1126
    jimi_t2
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    Talking about social philosophy, Hardy Bucks is kicking off on RTE tonight at 10.55 -literally can't wait

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_O-ckL0M5U


    (One of my favourite scenes; no need to have seen any of it before to appreciate it. Think Trailer Park Boys set in the arse end of Mayo)

    ''You were rared on the fox's milk, I can tell by the gimp of ya''

    ''There's nothing better I like than being basted in gravy''


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    #1127
    electrogrimey
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    One of my favourite Hardy Bucks quotes is "You still have your communion money ya ****". Can't remember which episode it's from.


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    #1128
    BaZmO*
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    electrogrimey wrote: »
    One of my favourite Hardy Bucks quotes is "You still have your communion money ya ****". Can't remember which episode it's from.

    I'm sorry but is that the level of comedy in it? Its not exactly an unknown saying.

    I really hate that bog 'comedy'


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    #1129
    Zascar
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    Lads does anyone know how to download videos from myspace? Wrecking my head here... I;ve tried Orbit and Video Downloer Chrome plugin, neither work


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    #1130
    electrogrimey
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    Zascar wrote: »
    Lads does anyone know how to download videos from myspace? Wrecking my head here... I;ve tried Orbit and Video Downloer Chrome plugin, neither work

    Have you tried checking the source for the original URL of the video? Myspace is very simple HTML, so I'd say you'll be able to find it. That might help.


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    #1131
    BaZmO*
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    Zascar wrote: »
    Lads does anyone know how to download videos from myspace? Wrecking my head here... I;ve tried Orbit and Video Downloer Chrome plugin, neither work
    Ask in the Asylum thread, I've heard it mentioned a couple of times there.


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    #1132
    g5fd6ow0hseima
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    BaZmO* wrote: »
    I'm sorry but is that the level of comedy in it? Its not exactly an unknown saying.

    I really hate that bog 'comedy'

    Nope, not whatsoever. The communion money joke is as old as the hills, one renowned throughout the country.

    Bog comedy? Well if you're from Dublin you'll struggle to laugh at any comedy outside of Dublin. Hence why the likes of Rubberbandits are more or less unknown in Dublin while such 'please shoot me in the head' comedy like that **** Brendan O'Carroll is popular in Dublin, and has been for decades.

    Maybe im too young to make a proper judgement on Irish humour, but from what I can see - after living in Dublin for three years, Dubs have their own humour, and little understanding or no understanding of that outside of the M50.

    I apologise for making some sweeping generalisations, but that's my opinion - and experience.


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    #1133
    jimi_t2
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    BaZmO* wrote: »
    I'm sorry but is that the level of comedy in it? Its not exactly an unknown saying.

    I really hate that bog 'comedy'

    Watch it and decide yourself rather than dismissing it completely. Comedy is a subjective thing but its an incredible indie production all the same.


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    #1134
    jtsuited
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    yeah to be fair, some of Hardy Bucks was hilarious and acutely observant and some of it was just fcuking dire, which is always gonna happen when it's amateurs involved. Thing is, I think there's genuine comedic talent there so now it's just a question of whether RTE has developed it.


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    #1135
    jtsuited
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    don't know where to put it so here's some music journalism that I've done....

    http://www.ibiza-voice.com/story/news/2731

    http://www.ibiza-voice.com/story/news/2714


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    #1136
    jtsuited
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    oh my god, RTE have made a comedy that's actually........good. speechless!


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    #1137
    Is mise le key
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    Zascar wrote: »
    Lads does anyone know how to download videos from myspace? Wrecking my head here... I;ve tried Orbit and Video Downloer Chrome plugin, neither work

    This is the handiest bit of freeware that kick seven shades of sh.it out of a lot of paying software, besides being able to convert anything into almost anything else you can paste in the web address of any streaming media & it will save it to yer PC, link is the homepage with link to follow at the bottom of the page to another page & you will get the download link then on the third page i think, anyway this is the handiest bit of free kit you will ever get,

    http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html

    Jamie Future Needle wrote: »
    Bog comedy? Well if you're from Dublin you'll struggle to laugh at any comedy outside of Dublin. Hence why the likes of Rubberbandits are more or less unknown in Dublin while such 'please shoot me in the head' comedy like that **** Brendan O'Carroll is popular in Dublin, and has been for decades.

    So i take it you dont like brendan O'Carroll so.
    Jamie Future Needle wrote: »
    Maybe im too young to make a proper judgement on Irish humour, but from what I can see - after living in Dublin for three years, Dubs have their own humour, and little understanding or no understanding of that outside of the M50.

    I apologise for making some sweeping generalisations, but that's my opinion - and experience.

    Maybe your not sure you can make a judgement on irish humour so lets imply all dubs are narrow minded & tunnel visioned.... now thats ironic.


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    g5fd6ow0hseima
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    Is mise le key wrote: »
    So i take it you dont like brendan O'Carroll so.

    Exactly

    Is mise le key wrote: »
    Maybe your not sure you can make a judgement on irish humour so lets imply all dubs are narrow minded & tunnel visioned.... now thats ironic.

    Well who was the person who posited 'bog' humour? Im only commenting on what was said. but in terms of dubs being narrow minded, I remember as a youngster laughing at a person who said 'dubs down the country are like yanks in a leprechaun colony'... Now you might laugh at that as it has its own merit from either perspective, but lets take the relativist standpoint on this one


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    #1139
    electrogrimey
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    Just spent the evening burning CDs. Burnt #38 CDs with printed tracklists. Only reason I stopped is because I ran out of CDs...Head is in bits.


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    #1140
    Is mise le key
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    Jamie Future Needle wrote: »
    but lets take the relativist standpoint on this one

    I could ask for the normative relativist standpoint be taken as the best for all concerned but that may be contradictory to your original posting as you seem ready to sit in moral judgement of dublin folk,
    Jamie Future Needle wrote: »
    Well if you're from Dublin you'll struggle to laugh at any comedy outside of Dublin. Hence why the likes of Rubberbandits are more or less unknown in Dublin while such 'please shoot me in the head' comedy like that **** Brendan O'Carroll is popular in Dublin, and has been for decades.

    Maybe im too young to make a proper judgement on Irish humour, but from what I can see - after living in Dublin for three years, Dubs have their own humour, and little understanding or no understanding of that outside of the M50.


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    #1141
    BaZmO*
    Registered Users Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    Jamie Future Needle wrote: »
    Bog comedy?
    Yeah Bog Comedy. Comedy that is so Country-centric that it’s only funny if you’re from the country. Killinaskully, Katherine Lynch, Hardy Bucks, etc.

    Jamie Future Needle wrote: »
    Well if you're from Dublin you'll struggle to laugh at any comedy outside of Dublin. Hence why the likes of Rubberbandits are more or less unknown in Dublin while such 'please shoot me in the head' comedy like that **** Brendan O'Carroll is popular in Dublin, and has been for decades.
    Brendan O’Carroll is popular?

    Jamie Future Needle wrote: »
    Maybe im too young to make a proper judgement on Irish humour, but from what I can see - after living in Dublin for three years, Dubs have their own humour, and little understanding or no understanding of that outside of the M50.
    Maybe you are too young, I dunno, you’ll have to make that call yourself, but that said, it is a huge generalisation to say that all Dubs have little or no understanding of anything outside of the M50. Personally I don’t even live inside the M50. And comedy wise there are plenty of great comedians that hail from outside of Dublin. I just hate that real bog stuff.

    Jamie Future Needle wrote: »
    I apologise for making some sweeping generalisations, but that's my opinion - and experience.
    No need to apologise, you’re young and you’ve a lot to learn young Skywalker.

    You’re entitled to your opinions based on your experiences. Just like my opinion is that all country people live on a farm, love their spuds, bacon, red lemonade and tayto. And in my experience all country people hate people from Dublin but yet have no problem living here.

    jimi_t2 wrote: »
    Watch it and decide yourself rather than dismissing it completely. Comedy is a subjective thing but its an incredible indie production all the same.
    I did watch it last night but didn’t think it was great.

    Indie? Was it not made by RTE?


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