You are not a f*cking DJ. You’re an overpaid, untalented, cake-throwing c*nt.

Android 666

joker77 wrote: »

The IMF have done a whole lot of harm where they've been around the world.

Yeah, unbelievable was a terrible song alright.




Ba dum…



















tish!

joker77

Press release from Debt and Development Ireland on the IMF:

Issued by Debt and Development Coalition Ireland
18th November 2010

As Ireland faces the prospect of IMF intervention in its economy, Irish global justice group, Debt and Development Coalition Ireland (DDCI), today warned that the IMF's track record shows that the institution seeks to silence voices for justice, and that its policies have failed impoverished people all around the world.

Nessa Ní Chasaide, Co-ordinator of Debt and Development Coalition Ireland (DDCI) said, "The notion that the IMF is needed to promote 'tough love' in crisis situations, whether in impoverished countries or in Ireland, is deeply misleading as governments must first and foremost account to their citizens when making decisions that will affect their everyday lives. Since joining the IMF in 1957, Ireland has stood by as the IMF impoverished countries around the world. As Ireland and other Eurozone countries now face a similar prospect, it is high time to end the undue and damaging influence of such an undemocratic financial institution."

Lidy Nacpil, Co-ordinator Jubilee South - Asia Pacific Movement on Debt and Development, based in the philippines said, "The IMF promoted severe austerity programmes in the Philippines for more than a decade which deeply undermined our right to access essential public services in the longer term. I urge the Irish people to proactively contest the IMF's power, to fight for, and protect, their right to voice and advocate for justice centred policies, as the IMF is dogmatic and not interested in listening to the opinions of others".

Ms Ní Chasaide continued, "Despite recent claims from the IMF that it has become more flexible, it continues to promote hugely damaging policies. For example, 75% of the impoverished countries to which it is currently giving loans around the world have had to slash social spending in 2010 as a result of IMF lending conditions. This is despite the fact that they require massively scaled up expenditure to meet basic health and education needs."

DDCI highlighted that the nature of recent IMF post crisis lending shows that the IMF has not changed from a 'once-size-fits-all' policy approach. For example in Pakistan, where people are suffering the impacts of massive flooding, the IMF has required government to end energy subsidies, increase fuel and electricity tariffs and increase regressive excise and sales taxes. In Jamaica teachers and other public sector workers have not received negotiated reimbursements of salary arrears. In Romania as part of a 2010 bail-out loan, public sector wages were slashed by by 25% and pensions by 15%. In September, 12,000 Romanians protested in Bucharest to demand authorities stop the layoff of public workers [1]

g5fd6ow0hseima

Is mise le key wrote: »

What annoyed me most over the past few weeks is that our country is almost on the brink of privatisation & we are subject to slavery to a private firm.:mad:

I dont think the IMF are going to implement their traditional neoliberal overhaul of mass privatisation simply because most of the inefficiencies lie within the public sector and much money can be saved by reducing these inefficiencies. The Public sector has always been the largest employer in the history of the state, this has to change.

To be honest, mass-layoffs are inevitable but is it really such a bad thing when, for example, there are 192 people working in the taoiseach's office? Plus, public servants in this country are overpaid in comparison to our european counterparts. We all know what exhorbitant wages our TDs are on, and the pensions of former TDs / ministers etc. Correct me if im wrong, but A certain Mr. Ahern is sitting on three state pensions - a TDs, a ministers, and a taoiseach's pension. In a properly run country, one would surrender their pension once attaining a higher post, but not in Ireland.

That is why I feel that foreign intervention is badly needed. The running of this country is a joke. People must realise - indeed many now do - that our government is incapable of running this country properly on its own. I dont think people should fear the IMF

Android 666

Jamie Future Needle wrote: »

I dont think the IMF are going to implement their traditional neoliberal overhaul of mass privatisation simply because most of the inefficiencies lie within the public sector and much money can be saved by reducing these inefficiencies. The Public sector has always been the largest employer in the history of the state, this has to change.

He's talking about the fact that we the people are servicing the debt of the banks which are private companies.

g5fd6ow0hseima

Android 666 wrote: »

He's talking about the fact that we the people are servicing the debt of the banks which are private companies.

The whole 'socialism for the rich, capitalism for the poor' is to me the epitomy of neoliberal economics, something which I absolutely despise. But the question is why didnt the issue of non existant banking regulation in the previous decade or so ever come into the public light? Therefore I feel that through our wholehearted embrace of neoliberalism in the 90s, we as a country deserve what we have on our hands now.

Is mise le key

Android 666 wrote: »

He's talking about the fact that we the people are servicing the debt of the banks which are private companies.

Its amazing how that most simple fact is watered down to nothing when the IMF are being discussed.

Anglo is a PRIVATE company

Anglo borrowed from PRIVATE companies

Anglo traded & invested large sums of this with PRIVATE companies

Anglo lost on the 'Free' market

Now just where is the legitimacy for the crossing over of €50,000,000,000 to the people to pay now when all the PRIVATE companies profited for years & when it alls comes crashing down which was inevitable the bill passes over to us

Corruption on a global scale........and dont even attempt to use the word 'systemic' here.

Android 666

Jamie Future Needle wrote: »

The whole 'socialism for the rich, capitalism for the poor' is to me the epitomy of neoliberal economics, something which I absolutely despise. But the question is why didnt the issue of non existant banking regulation in the previous decade or so ever come into the public light? Therefore I feel that through our wholehearted embrace of neoliberalism in the 90s, we as a country deserve what we have on our hands now.

Well, lip service was paid to the idea of financial regulation (through ads etc.) even though it was never enforced or acted on which the public didn't realise through lack of knowledge and a pretty compliant media that didn't really feel the need to investigate these things. The general populace (myself included) didn't realise how fast and loose the governments and banks were being with the economy. I think people were in blissful ignorance tbh.

g5fd6ow0hseima

Is mise le key wrote: »

Its amazing how that most simple fact is watered down to nothing when the IMF are being discussed.

Anglo is a PRIVATE company

Anglo borrowed from PRIVATE companies

Anglo traded & invested large sums of this with PRIVATE companies

Anglo lost on the 'Free' market

Now just where is the legitimacy for the crossing over of €50,000,000,000 to the people to pay now when all the PRIVATE companies profited for years & when it alls comes crashing down which was inevitable the bill passes over to us

Corruption on a global scale........and dont even attempt to use the word 'systemic' here.

But nobody gave a **** a few years ago.

Android 666

Jamie Future Needle wrote: »

But nobody gave a **** a few years ago.

Because we weren't servicing that debt a few years ago…

Is mise le key

Jamie Future Needle wrote: »

Therefore I feel that through our wholehearted embrace of neoliberalism in the 90s, we as a country deserve what we have on our hands now.

You do have to draw a distinction though between the,

Genuinely uneducated people trying to make ends meet
(not meaning they are stupid when i say uneducated, but just not tuned in to how economics & politics are engineered intentionally globally)

Educated people trying to make ends meet without screwing anyone
(like myself have always worked for a living & saw the logic & reason that living in opulence has always resulted in destruction for the many)

Educated but didn’t give a sh.it because they were creaming it on the 'wave' of the boom
(Elite capitalists & budding capitalists that bought into the con job over their fellow countrymen & women)

Uneducated & creaming it so were none the wiser where it was going
(Conditioned into believing in a system that is fundamentally flawed & awarded the name entrepreneur instead of capitalist)

Now as far as i can see there is only one section of society there that are to blame for this along with the government so i do not accept that we as a whole deserve this, i know it may be over simplifying it but i cannot agree that its was all our fault along with the government.

Just as the men & women who put there lives down for Ireland in the past did when we were directly ruled from westminster still believed that we are Irish & this is Ireland, that is when the fight is needed the most, when the enemy is actually in (IMF/Neoliberalists). But the fight only begins here with your heritage & identity being threatened; the fight must then be taken to the enemy that respects no nationalistic or socialistic ideology,

Connolly said,

Raising the Tricolour over our buildings & painting our post boxes green changes nothing, that is why i am an international socialist as poverty has no boundaries & capital exploits nationalism.

BaZmO*

Jamie Future Needle wrote: »

But the question is why didnt the issue of non existant banking regulation in the previous decade or so ever come into the public light? Therefore I feel that through our wholehearted embrace of neoliberalism in the 90s, we as a country deserve what we have on our hands now.

Because just like when a person gets on a plane, it's not up to them to do the safety checks on the equipment, it's up to the Airline to follow regulations. Just like it should've been with the banks.

jimi_t2

In other, happier news;

36 500ml Cans of Bulmers

OR

48 500ml Cans of Bud, Guinness, Carlsberg or heineken for 50 euro in Dunnes from Thursday

Basically 2 slabs for 50. Cheaper than Dutch/Bavaria if you're buying in bulk

Is mise le key

jimi_t2 wrote: »

In other, happier news;

36 500ml Cans of Bulmers

OR

48 500ml Cans of Bud, Guinness, Carlsberg or heineken for 50 euro in Dunnes from Thursday

Basically 2 slabs for 50. Cheaper than Dutch/Bavaria if you're buying in bulk

I would say Brian Cowen will be going for a few slabs of Carlsberg soon:D

joker77

Sweet, stocking up on the Guinness for Christmas

Android 666

seannash

Sure you may as well give the speech and let us know what you're thinking…

Seriously, I can't understand anyone who doesn't use their democratic right to vote. It's insane. Vote for SF, FF, FG or Lab, I don't care who you vote for but vote.

Whats the point of voting for the sake of it.I dont think any of them will be of any benefit so theres no good choice for me

Equating politics to football is pretty daft as well. You might find both of them boring, fair enough but football hasn't quite got the ability to bring a country down the way politics has. Would what has happened in the last couple of weeks not convince you that you have to be more politically engaged? I know people are repeating the mantra 'It doesn't matter who's in power' but it will.

Fair enough it might be a bad comparison but up until now no goverment has affected how i live.I was lucky enough to get a job when i got back from abroad but if i hadnt i would have been out of here and gone somewhere else.
Now i totally understand that not everyone has that luxury but I personally do.I understand that i will be paying higher taxes and to be honest i dont think it matters what party is in power as they will not be able to stop this

If someone is repeatedly kicking me in the balls, I'm not going to just stand there and keep letting him do it, am I?

As ive said they havent kicked me in the balls

Look, me personally, I can't flipping wait for the election. I'm going to be poised and ready behind my front door waiting for the FF and FG campaigners to come along…

That would give me no satisfaction to be honest

Like i said they way my life has gone has been working out for me.Im not the sharpest tool in the shed but i have a job,a house and no loans to anyone.
Please dont take this as a rubbing it in the faces of the people who have been affected by the recession post as its affected many of my friends so Im very sympathetic to people in that situation

I think it was said best in another post

I think the whole system is wrong and there's no way for me to express that through the ballot box.

jtsuited

the system is wrong due to voter apathy more than any other thing.

electrogrimey

jtsuited wrote: »

the system is wrong due to voter apathy more than any other thing.

Definitely.

If you don't like the policies of the big parties, and least give a vote to a far left candidate, not because they're going to be able to change anything, but at least so there's someone like Joe Higgins in the Dáil who'll actually go against the Government. To me, this is FF/FG.

Scubadevils

It is difficult to catch up with this thread alright - I sometimes read posts during the day and have some replies in my head for later in the evening, then I can't be arsed by the time I get home.

In other news, I'm now addicted to mini Dime bar sweets. They sell big bags of them in airports but best value to be had in Ikea (as you'd expect).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUntAOk18UI

acman

Scubadevils wrote: »

It is difficult to catch up with this thread alright - I sometimes read posts during the day and have some replies in my head for later in the evening, then I can't be arsed by the time I get home.

In other news, I'm now addicted to mini Dime bar sweets. They sell big bags of them in airports but best value to be had in Ikea (as you'd expect).

Haha, what a blast from the past! Amazingly, I have found an image that summarises what has happened in the last post and previous six pages...

es-cee

dunno if this was posted but its random **** that effects everyone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ing8xH3Qj-k

stomprockin

es-cee wrote: »

dunno if this was posted but its random **** that effects everyone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ing8xH3Qj-k

So who is going in on Saturday ?

francois

stomprockin wrote: »

So who is going in on Saturday ?

Myself, the wife and baby F.
PLus there's a record fair in Film Base to visit after!

Is mise le key

Not sure how friday is going to pan out, lot on at the minute between me & the other half but i reckon i will make it,

Whats this about baby F

Last time i remember the question of family came round i tought you were still without child francois

Zascar

http://www.tasteofchristmas.ie

I think a few people here went to the Taste of Dublin the last few years which was very good. This is something similar, not sure the story exactly. Tickets are bloody expensive though - I was lucky to get free tickets to the Taste of Dublin but not to this one unfortunately...

jtsuited

I'm stuck in a really awkward position here......Much as I want that shower of cúnts out of there as soon as possible, I really want this budget to go through.

I know we've given up a lot of our sovereignty with this bailout (and we have, to think otherwise is overly optimistic), but I think now is the time to ditch the romanticism.

Yes I know all about how the IMF are a non-elected profiteering bunch of geebags, and how they subvert democratic power everywhere and seem to have a penchant for military dictatorships over elected governments, and that basically they're evil capitalism embodied, but.......

Cute-hoorism got us into this mess. And I think it can get us out. If we have the EU by our sides making sure the euro remains strong against the dollar with a good bit of cash, we've got the whole lot of them by the balls. The IMF coming in would have been endgame if we weren't in the Euro (look at what happened in Argentina). Simply put, once we stay in the Euro, leave it the EU and IMF to figure out how to get us up and running again.
The fact is, they can't let us go broke as long as we're in the Euro.

I think it's time to stop thinking of the ethics of this all, but of the end result.
Oh, and a state brothel. Definitely a state brothel.

francois

Is mise le key wrote: »

Not sure how friday is going to pan out, lot on at the minute between me & the other half but i reckon i will make it,

Whats this about baby F

Last time i remember the question of family came round i tought you were still without child francois

We had a baby boy about 12 weeks ago-starting him young!

joker77

jtsuited wrote: »

I'm stuck in a really awkward position here......Much as I want that shower of cúnts out of there as soon as possible, I really want this budget to go through.

I know we've given up a lot of our sovereignty with this bailout (and we have, to think otherwise is overly optimistic), but I think now is the time to ditch the romanticism.

Yes I know all about how the IMF are a non-elected profiteering bunch of geebags, and how they subvert democratic power everywhere and seem to have a penchant for military dictatorships over elected governments, and that basically they're evil capitalism embodied, but.......

Cute-hoorism got us into this mess. And I think it can get us out. If we have the EU by our sides making sure the euro remains strong against the dollar with a good bit of cash, we've got the whole lot of them by the balls. The IMF coming in would have been endgame if we weren't in the Euro (look at what happened in Argentina). Simply put, once we stay in the Euro, leave it the EU and IMF to figure out how to get us up and running again.
The fact is, they can't let us go broke as long as we're in the Euro.

I think it's time to stop thinking of the ethics of this all, but of the end result.
Oh, and a state brothel. Definitely a state brothel.

I understand your points, I'm just very reluctant about anything to do with the IMF. The people of Greece still haven't seen what their Government signed up to, we won't be any different.

Is mise le key

francois wrote: »

starting him young!

On what?? Rave music or protesting:D

stomprockin

francois wrote: »

Myself, the wife and baby F.
PLus there's a record fair in Film Base to visit after!

Heading in myself with a loads from work. i think its going to be Hugh!