Give it up for Harry Redknapp

leninbenjamin

eagle eye wrote: »

No not at all. You started out well in the thread but you have gotten more bitter as time has went on, thats very clear from reading your posts.

You have tried to attack Redknapp from different angles but now you are just trying to isolate one particular part of his track record. Something that has no bearing on anything at Tottenham Hotspur as you are well aware.

You seem to have forgotten so let me rephrase what you wrote in your OP, this threads about Harry and his 'stunning achievements' (which I refute).

eagle eye

leninbenjamin wrote: »

You seem to have forgotten so let me rephrase what you wrote in your OP, this threads about Harry and his 'stunning achievements' (which I refute).

FYP

Drummerboy2

I have to admit I was disgusted when Levy sacked Jol. i was also very dubious when he appointed Harry but I can't tell you how glad I am to have been so wrong. What he has done this year is amazing and to have the balls to play 4-4-2 with two wingers away from home was a joy to watch. Levy's dealing in the transfer market have been proven to be correct. I salute both Harry and Levy on a great achievement. Lets hope there will be many more.

leninbenjamin

eagle eye wrote: »

FYP

And that changes my point how exactly?

eagle eye

leninbenjamin wrote: »

And that changes my point how exactly?

I'm talking about his achievement of breaking into the top four with Tottenham Hotspur nothing else.

leninbenjamin

eagle eye wrote: »

I'm talking about his achievement of breaking into the top four with Tottenham Hotspur nothing else.

So I'm not allowed to evaluate said achievement in light of past precedent? That explains a lot now, thanks.

eagle eye

leninbenjamin wrote: »

So I'm not allowed to evaluate said achievement in light of past precedent? That explains a lot now, thanks.

What are you blabbering on about now?

What precedent are you talking about?

As far as I'm aware no other manager has finished 4th in the Premier League while in charge of Totenham Hotspur so there is no precedent.

leninbenjamin

eagle eye wrote: »

What are you blabbering on about now?

You seem to have a very short memory. This thread is about Harry after all, we're still talking about Harry. I've merely been pointing out that I don't like Harry, and that so far this 'achievement' is like the continuation of what I shall refer to as the 'Redknapp cycle'. Afterall, He's spent heavily and had flash in the pan success before only to leave when the going got tough and the arse started falling out of his team. So I'm not quite sure this stunning achievement is quite the achievement it seems at first glance. Of course I could be wrong, but past precedent so far puts the argument in my favour. You then started to attack me personally and accused me of bias against Spurs, which is ironic considering my opinion of Harry was formed long before he ever went to Spurs. Is that clear enough for you now?

aidan24326

Catenaccio! wrote: »

How can you like the guy?

WE KNOW HE'S NOT UP FOR SALE BUT HE'S A GREAT LITTLE PLAYER AND WE'D LOVE TO HAVE HIM HERE

WE'RE JUST DECLARING AN INTEREST AND IT'S UP TO THE PLAYER TO DECIDE WHERE HE WANTS TO GO

etc

Does his very best at disrupting other clubs/players careers. Top bloke.

Because of course he's the only manager who ever does that? Yeah that's right.

leninbenjamin wrote: »

You seem to have forgotten so let me rephrase what you wrote in your OP, this threads about Harry and his 'stunning achievements' (which I refute).

I don't think anyone ever went so far as to say that it's a 'stunning' achievement. It isn't. But if Spurs finished 15th this season Harry would be getting a slating from all sides. So in the interest of fairness I'd say credit where it's due. For now anyway.

leninbenjamin

aidan24326 wrote: »

I don't think anyone ever went so far as to say that it's a 'stunning' achievement.

those were eagle eye's exact words.

Boggles

Playboy wrote: »

I think we spent £3m on Carrick and £11m on Berbatov. We also made a £6m profit on Keane and Levy has negotiated good deals on nearly every player we have bought and sold over the years. The man has a 1st from Cambridge in Economics .. makes a big difference when someone is actually qualified to run the financial side of a club!

Meh. Ye sold your best players to one of the biggest teams in the world and made a profit. In fairness my 5 year niece could do that. You certainly don't need an econmics degree.

Players do well in PL = Big fish pays big Bucks.

I'm not doubting Levy as businessman, you picked up on a poor example though from a poster having a childish pop at United.

There is plenty of fail in there too with transfer turnaround.

Wasn't Dean Richards one of Levys first big money signings for Spurs at 8 million?

aidan24326

leninbenjamin wrote: »

those were eagle eye's exact words.

Ok then, I 'd agree that 'stunning' is a bit of an exaggeration.

Playboy

Boggles wrote: »

Meh. Ye sold your best players to one of the biggest teams in the world and made a profit. In fairness my 5 year niece could do that. You certainly don't need an econmics degree.

Players do well in PL = Big fish pays big Bucks.

I'm not doubting Levy as businessman, you picked up on a poor example though from a poster having a childish pop at United.

There is plenty of fail in there too with transfer turnaround.

Wasn't Dean Richards one of Levys first big money signings for Spurs at 8 million?

I think the financial position of the club is a fair reflection that Levy's transfer dealings were generally good rather than bad. At the end of the day he isnt a football expert so he needs advice from his manager on what he thinks a player is worth and then if he needs to sell that player then he makes sure he gets back everything he paid or else make a profit! He managed to squeez Sunderland for 16.5 m for bent! Unfortunately he has got some bad advice in the past .. Poor Glen though Dean Richards was worth £8m .. what was he smoking lol!

Boggles

Playboy wrote: »

I think the financial position of the club is a fair reflection that Levy's transfer dealings were generally good rather than bad. At the end of the day he isnt a football expert so he needs advice from his manager on what he thinks a player is worth and then if he needs to sell that player then he makes sure he gets back everything he paid or else make a profit! He managed to squeez Sunderland for 16.5 m for bent! Unfortunately he has got some bad advice in the past .. Poor Glen though Dean Richards was worth £8m .. what was he smoking lol!

I was more reacting to the fact that he was been lauded as some sort of genius for selling on his star players for massive money.

You got the Bent thing mixed up.

Bent was Spurs record signing at 16.5 million, He went to Sunderland for 10 million.

JPA

Boggles wrote: »

I was more reacting to the fact that he was been lauded as some sort of genius for selling on his star players for massive money.

You got the Bent thing mixed up.

Bent was Spurs record signing at 16.5 million, He went to Sunderland for 10 million.

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/articles/benttransferstockexchangeannouncement050809.html

Boggles

JPA wrote: »

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/articles/benttransferstockexchangeannouncement050809.html

Up to 16.5 million. Cash exchange of 10 million up front.

Edit: The 24 goals I'm sure would have to enable Sunderland to hand over more cash.

leninbenjamin

Boggles wrote: »

Up to 16.5 million. Cash exchange of 10 million up front.

No publication of add on requirements.

Although you have to admit, at the rate he is scoring it's likely Sunderland will end up paying the vast majority of those add-ons.

Boggles

leninbenjamin wrote: »

Although you have to admit, at the rate he is scoring it's likely Sunderland will end up paying the vast majority of those add-ons.

Yeah just edited.

Good deal for both clubs in fairness.

eagle eye

leninbenjamin wrote: »

You seem to have a very short memory. This thread is about Harry after all, we're still talking about Harry. I've merely been pointing out that I don't like Harry, and that so far this 'achievement' is like the continuation of what I shall refer to as the 'Redknapp cycle'. Afterall, He's spent heavily and had flash in the pan success before only to leave when the going got tough and the arse started falling out of his team. So I'm not quite sure this stunning achievement is quite the achievement it seems at first glance. Of course I could be wrong, but past precedent so far puts the argument in my favour. You then started to attack me personally and accused me of bias against Spurs, which is ironic considering my opinion of Harry was formed long before he ever went to Spurs. Is that clear enough for you now?

As I said I'm talking about his time at Spurs.

Anybody who came out and said last August that Spurs would finish 4th in the Premier League would have got laughed out of the place ergo a stunning achievement.

JPA

Boggles wrote: »

Up to 16.5 million. Cash exchange of 10 million up front.

Edit: The 24 goals I'm sure would have to enable Sunderland to hand over more cash.

Yes but when Spurs bought Bent it was also UP TO 16.5 million.