Huge Corrib trout

DryFlyFishing · 12-05-2010 3:37pm

ironbluedun wrote: »

well they have to eat something don't they...if the roach population falls then it is possible that we will see a rise in the fortunes of all up-winged flies........but maybe less larger ferox as they will have less roach to prey on, we all know a roach is a good bait for a ferox.......... i will be on the corrib myself next week if i see ya i will give ya a good slap! (only joking now)

how many days you fishing the corrib? i was over there last weekend and there was bugger all trout on mayfly... hopefully they might be by monday

ill be the guy holding the hardy rod ... give him a slap.. for me ...lol ... just pick the a smaller guy than you thats holding one

DryFlyFishing · 12-05-2010 3:52pm

stylie wrote: »

Nice touch too of asking an angler thats describing the slow painful come back of once great lake what the trout taste like?

i thought that was funny... but i was serious.. as i fish to eat.. and release.... had to say that word lol

stylie wrote: »

I think you should go after the Corrib Char with you dry fly, and ask them what they think of all these localized climate change business.

dynamite might be better

stylie wrote: »

More worried about the weed growth myself, even though nobody(not even DryFly) knows the long term effects of zebras on our waters.
I think they are in the great lakes some 30yrs and still they dont know if they are a good or a bad thing

i think the weed is great... loads of extra food and cover for the fish... but not good for mayfly... good for mig nymph etc

Zzippy · 12-05-2010 4:07pm

DryFlyFishing wrote: »

was there any samples taken from the Corrib trout?

No, the fish was photographed, weighed and released. The guys wouldn't have even thought to take a scale sample and had no equipment to take tissue samples either.

stylie · 12-05-2010 4:08pm

DryFlyFishing wrote: »

i thought that was funny... but i was serious.. as i fish to eat.. and release.... had to say that word lol

dynamite might be better

i think the weed is great... loads of extra food and cover for the fish... but not good for mayfly... good for mig nymph etc

You do realise the weed Im on about will devastate all life under it in the lake dont you ?
google Lagarosiphon and its effects

bribren2001 · 12-05-2010 4:35pm

ironbluedun wrote: »

Decimation might not be the correct word, but the situation did get very close to it indeed, the population of trout fell by about 80% and by the early1990s it just wasn’t worth fishing. However since the early 2000s the wild indigenous stock of fish has been improving year on year, mainly thanks to improvement in water clarity (zebras) and return of insect life, reduction in roach and pike numbers, catch and release policy of most proper anglers, and most importantly the huge amount of spawning stream rehabilitation work carried out by the Lough Sheelin Trout Protection Association, without them the lough would be dead now no doubt about that. Yes the fishery board put stockies into it on several occasions, that’s an easy cop out solution, these alien fish don’t spawn are not smart enough to survive in a wild environment and usually became food for pike and I haven’t seen many of them in recent seasons.

id give me left leg to fish sheelin back in the 60s and 70s, was by far one of the best trout lakes in ireland for the overall size of fish....

Yep,only for the LSTPA sheelin would be dead and fair play to them,there doing mighty work and lets hope they bring sheelin back to her best. The fisheries boards are a waste of time.....putting half dead diseased stockies into it so they can tell foreigners oh all our lakes are full with trout....

DryFlyFishing · 12-05-2010 5:29pm

stylie wrote: »

You do realise the weed Im on about will devastate all life under it in the lake dont you ?
google Lagarosiphon and its effects

it seems to only grow in 10-20 feet of water?

as long as there is a bit of lake gardening the lake is fine..

at least some areas on the lake dont get boats driving on top of trout all day...

DryFlyFishing · 12-05-2010 5:58pm

bribren2001 wrote: »

id give me left leg to fish sheelin back in the 60s and 70s, was by far one of the best trout lakes in ireland for the overall size of fish....

..

what was the average size in the 60/70's?

coolwings · 12-05-2010 7:03pm

Most fish between 1 3/4 and 2 1/2 lbs.
I guess there was between 10 and 20 times the number of trout in it compared to what is there today.
I expect the biomass of roach + trout now is close to the biomass of trout then.
There were more olives then as I can remember than now.
Perch were fewer and bigger. They have multiplied since then. Rotonone poison was used then to kill the spawning perch in the shallows, and shrubs were immersed and then lifted once the perch spawn was adhering to them.
Trout anglers were killing everything they caught and speeding up the decline immeasurably.

Zzippy · 12-05-2010 9:05pm

DryFlyFishing wrote: »

it seems to only grow in 10-20 feet of water?

as long as there is a bit of lake gardening the lake is fine..

at least some areas on the lake dont get boats driving on top of trout all day...

Lake gardening?

The weed grows in water up to 6m deep, that includes all the shallow bays. It grows so thickly that fishing, boating, even swimming is impossible - if you drove a boat into it you would be stopped pretty fast. If left unchecked it will render most areas of the lake shallower than 6m inaccessible to angling. Still think its a good thing?

DryFlyFishing · 13-05-2010 7:48am

Zzippy wrote: »

Lake gardening?

The weed grows in water up to 6m deep, that includes all the shallow bays. It grows so thickly that fishing, boating, even swimming is impossible - if you drove a boat into it you would be stopped pretty fast. If left unchecked it will render most areas of the lake shallower than 6m inaccessible to angling. Still think its a good thing?

well all i can say is what iv experienced...

i drive through it...... mind you you must check your water intake on the engine......for weed.. or your impellor will be bust...

i catch big fish in it.... 5x fluro cuts through the weed as the trout usualy does not dive...

iv no problem with it if it is kept localised..

ironbluedun · 13-05-2010 7:57am

coolwings wrote: »

Most fish between 1 3/4 and 2 1/2 lbs.
I guess there was between 10 and 20 times the number of trout in it compared to what is there today.
I expect the biomass of roach + trout now is close to the biomass of trout then.
There were more olives then as I can remember than now.
Perch were fewer and bigger. They have multiplied since then. Rotonone poison was used then to kill the spawning perch in the shallows, and shrubs were immersed and then lifted once the perch spawn was adhering to them.
Trout anglers were killing everything they caught and speeding up the decline immeasurably.

in former times there was a population of trout estimated by fishery scientists to be about 200,000 or more trout, that divided by 20 only gives you 10,000 and there are far more trout in it than that number, if there were 10,000 that's about 2-3 trout per acre while i have no official figures i believe from hard experience on the water that the stock density to far exceed that. the olives have returned, there were some claret duns on it last year and some brown may duns too...but there is a long way to go there.it gets huge hatches of caenis but not many fish them....some people like the cot i suppose.....there are hundreds of sedges on it.....hopefully the improvements will continue.

ironbluedun · 13-05-2010 7:59am

bribren2001 wrote: »

id give me left leg to fish sheelin back in the 60s and 70s, was by far one of the best trout lakes in ireland for the overall size of fish....

Yep,only for the LSTPA sheelin would be dead and fair play to them,there doing mighty work and lets hope they bring sheelin back to her best. The fisheries boards are a waste of time.....putting half dead diseased stockies into it so they can tell foreigners oh all our lakes are full with trout....

here's someone who knows what they are talking about...........

stylie · 13-05-2010 8:01am

DryFlyFishing wrote: »

well all i can say is what iv experienced...

i drive through it...... mind you you must check your water intake on the engine......for weed.. or your impellor will be bust...

i catch big fish in it.... 5x fluro cuts through the weed as the trout usualy does not dive...

iv no problem with it if its is kept localised..

You are driving through the normal lake weed. Only an idiot would say Lagarosiphon is a good thing, Lagarosiphon blankets the top layer of the lake decreasing the oxygen content and the sunlight...making any area its in uninhabitable. Just one piece of the plant drifting around in the current can create new colony's. If it wasnt for the weed cutting boat and other preventive measures the lake would be in dire straights, if it isnt already.

ironbluedun · 13-05-2010 8:01am

DryFlyFishing wrote: »

it seems to only grow in 10-20 feet of water?

as long as there is a bit of lake gardening the lake is fine..

at least some areas on the lake dont get boats driving on top of trout all day...

lake gardening.......will ya stop.....i think you will need two slaps..........:D

DryFlyFishing · 13-05-2010 8:19am

ironbluedun wrote: »

lake gardening.......will ya stop.....i think you will need two slaps..........:D

well the lads that are cutting it every year are doing a great job in localising it

DryFlyFishing · 13-05-2010 8:25am

stylie wrote: »

You are driving through the normal lake weed. Only an idiot would say Lagarosiphon is a good thing, Lagarosiphon blankets the top layer of the lake decreasing the oxygen content and the sunlight...making any area its in uninhabitable. Just one piece of the plant drifting around in the current can create new colony's. If it wasnt for the weed cutting boat and other preventive measures the lake would be in dire straights, if it isnt already.

there is a fat chance in hell that the lake will get rid of it all.... so we got to live with it....

mind you in some areas the weed has been cleared successfully...

if you wanted to get rid of it you need to use divers... and get rid of the roots... not a weed cutting boat

curravagh bay had that weed in it.... and it was cleared successfully... ill be looking in on that bay again this year to see if there is still no weed , im sure i wont be the only one having a look now.... maybe it is an example of how things should be done.... tackle the problem at the root

Zzippy · 13-05-2010 9:56am

DryFlyFishing wrote: »

well all i can say is what iv experienced...

i drive through it...... mind you you must check your water intake on the engine......for weed.. or your impellor will be bust...

i catch big fish in it.... 5x fluro cuts through the weed as the trout usualy does not dive...

iv no problem with it if it is kept localised..

DryFlyFishing wrote: »

well the lads that are cutting it every year are doing a great job in localising it

DryFlyFishing wrote: »

there is a fat chance in hell that the lake will get rid of it all.... so we got to live with it....

mind you in some areas the weed has been cleared successfully...

if you wanted to get rid of it you need to use divers... and get rid of the roots... not a weed cutting boat

curravagh bay had that weed in it.... and it was cleared successfully... ill be looking in on that bay again this year to see if there is still no weed , im sure i wont be the only one having a look now.... maybe it is an example of how things should be done.... tackle the problem at the root

Are you for real?
1. You're driving through the native weed. Lagarosiphon grows in much denser, thicker colonies which you would not attempt to drive through.
2. Attempting to drive through Lagarosiphon is extremely irresponsible. Weed fragments which are broken off by your propellor will drift off and form new colonies elsewhere. You're talking about driving through it and all you're worried about is your engine. :rolleyes:
3. How many divers do you think would be needed to root out all the weed? You're pretty naive if you think its possible. Corrib has 44,000 acres, all the divers in Ireland wouldn't be enough.
4. The weedcutting boat has removed thousands of tonnes of the weed from several bays. The weed grows back and requires ongoing maintenance. Currarevagh Bay is weed-free for the moment thanks to hard work by fisheries board staff and funding from several agencies. You think that's going to last forever?

Tbh, if you think Lagarosiphon is ok, and you're driving through it, I'd rather not have you fishing the lake. Why don't you do some research before posting ill-informed and irresponsible comments....

ironbluedun · 13-05-2010 9:59am

DryFlyFishing wrote: »

how many days you fishing the corrib? i was over there last weekend and there was bugger all trout on mayfly... hopefully they might be by monday

ill be the guy holding the hardy rod ... give him a slap.. for me ...lol ... just pick the a smaller guy than you thats holding one

i will have to watch the weather..........probably towards the end of next week...me thinks....

ironbluedun · 13-05-2010 10:16am

Zzippy wrote: »

Tbh, if you think Lagarosiphon is ok, and you're driving through it, I'd rather not have you fishing the lake. Why don't you do some research before posting ill-informed and irresponsible comments....

well said that man...............

DryFlyFishing · 13-05-2010 10:24am

Zzippy wrote: »

Are you for real?
1. You're driving through the native weed. Lagarosiphon grows in much denser, thicker colonies which you would not attempt to drive through.
2. Attempting to drive through Lagarosiphon is extremely irresponsible. Weed fragments which are broken off by your propellor will drift off and form new colonies elsewhere. You're talking about driving through it and all you're worried about is your engine. :rolleyes:
3. How many divers do you think would be needed to root out all the weed? You're pretty naive if you think its possible. Corrib has 44,000 acres, all the divers in Ireland wouldn't be enough.
4. The weedcutting boat has removed thousands of tonnes of the weed from several bays. The weed grows back and requires ongoing maintenance. Currarevagh Bay is weed-free for the moment thanks to hard work by fisheries board staff and funding from several agencies. You think that's going to last forever?

Tbh, if you think Lagarosiphon is ok, and you're driving through it, I'd rather not have you fishing the lake. Why don't you do some research before posting ill-informed and irresponsible comments....

everyone who has gone into a bay with that weed has driven on it at least once... the weed cutting boat is the worst spreader of fragment... divers only have to clear the combined 2-3 acres that are infected lol i dont know where your getting your 44,000 from[.... well if we only surface cut for years ...people like you will be to blame for the weed being everywhere

i thought currarevagh bay was cleared by a private party???????????????? (now im talking about the effective clearing)

or did you not know someone sent divers to clear it???????????????

Zzippy · 13-05-2010 11:00am

DryFlyFishing wrote: »

everyone who has gone into a bay with that weed has driven on it at least once... the weed cutting boat is the worst spreader of fragment... divers only have to clear the combined 2-3 acres that are infected lol i dont know where your getting your 44,000 from[.... well if we only surface cut for years ...people like you will be to blame for the weed being everywhere

i thought currarevagh bay was cleared by a private party???????????????? (now im talking about the effective clearing)

or did you not know someone sent divers to clear it???????????????

OK, I was wrong, Corrib is 40,621 acres in size. Huge difference alright. 2-3 acres affected, are you having a laugh? Rinneroon Bay was completely covered in weed 2 years ago, thats a lot more than 2-3 acres. How much of the 40,000 acres do you think is shallower than 6m, and liable to be affected if the weed is left to spread unchecked?
FYI, here's a map of the spread of Lagarosiphon: 2008 - found at 113 sites around the lake. 2009 ??

The weed cutting boat cuts the plant at the lake bed, not the surface. When its operating in a bay the guys place a boom net across the mouth of the bay to stop the fragments escaping into the main lake, or were you not aware of that?
You are right in that the best way to remove it is to pull it by the root, but that is not feasible on a large scale.
Do you seriously think someone paid divers to clear a whole bay? Divers have been used on the research project to assess the most effective way to remove the weed, but they can only clear small areas, and are being used more to assess regrowth in cleared areas.

I repeat my assertion, your posts on this issue are misguided, ill informed and irresponsible. Being more concerned about your engine when driving through weed than about spreading it all over the place says it all really - you don't really give a shit. :rolleyes:

DryFlyFishing · 13-05-2010 12:10pm

as i said = lake gardening = not killing the plant... only mowing the lawn

yes someone payed divers... i can tell you who did if you wanted... as the person that did should get a good hand shake from everyone as it was the most effective and most logical step to take...

in stead you lot will be mowing the lawn for eternity...

maybe if one sent divers when it was found first you would not have the spread... one would rather invest money now than waste all the years of gardening fees lol

well i suppose we live in Ireland,.... LMAO....Ireland is not a logical country..........

most of the effected areas are small... except for a couple of bays......but all those effected areas will be large soon... sure you can mow them to...

anyone want to set up a lake gardening business... sponsored by the tax payer??

and why would people have to drive on the weed if someone was mowing it??????? and no i dont like driving on it... but in windy weather you dont see it...

yea i am more concerned about my engine... because it sounds like no one is doing a thing...go mow the lawn..

Rinneroon Bay is still covered...but it was never completely covered only 50%... what did mowing it achieve???? you will only have to do it every year...

if you want to get rid of the weed you need to kill it at the root.... is there anyone on here that does gardening and will solve the problem?
how about injecting weed killer into the roots???????????????

most of the 113 sites are only 10-20 feet circular -- can one diver not cope with that..... im sure there are plenty of unemployed people that dive and would like a job doing that on minimum wage.... or for free.. for the summer....just give them room and board

Sfinn · 13-05-2010 2:13pm

Dear Dryflyfishing,

I very rarely comment or past judgment on others but in the case I feel I must. I have read you comments on this forum and others with amazement and utter disbelief at times.

I will say this once, you are egotistical individual.

Your comments on promoting our sport are unhelpful. Yes, I believe in free speech. But the way you have conducted your views in a troll like manner are condescending.

If you believe that your videos are helpful in promoting tourism in addition the Corrib then you do not understand what the visiting angler is looking for.

I've spent the last 35 years promoting angling, and the vast majority of this has been with anglers who were looking to enjoy themselves. It was about the craic, the odd fish, meeting people. I've been fortunate to have ghillie traditional style, i.e rowing on the great sea trout lakes, fished with some of the best anglers, some of them now deceased RIP, men and women right up to their eighties. For the vast majority of these people it was not about killing, scores of fish, It was more about the enjoyment of the sport. Lunch, the craic, passing around the hip flask, the accommodation and finally the local hospitality.

It is easy to mock and jib at those who worked for the protection of our lakes and river. I myself may not always agree with what the WRFB do. But i will say this much it was them who highlighted the issue with LAGAROSIPHON MAJOR, sought funding etc, if it was left to the clubs where would we be now!!!

Your comments about letting is spread, is utter nonsense, if we do, say goodbye to the following, a few to mention, dogs bay, long shallows, birchhall, lime, ower bay,Burnthouse, the narrows, ballinduff. For me any one who displays such irresponsibility, is no different that those who pollute our waters, be it from leaving rubbish on the side of the road or on islands, to contaminating our waters.

I've enough said regardless of what your comments maybe. I will engage no further. I will only ask that you listen to yourself.

regards

DryFlyFishing · 13-05-2010 2:28pm

Sfinn wrote: »

Dear Dryflyfishing,

I very rarely comment or past judgment on others but in the case I feel I must. I have read you comments on this forum and others with amazement and utter disbelief at times.

I will say this once, you are egotistical individual.

Your comments on promoting our sport are unhelpful. Yes, I believe in free speech. But the way you have conducted your views in a troll like manner are condescending.

If you believe that your videos are helpful in promoting tourism in addition the Corrib then you do not understand what the visiting angler is looking for.

I've spent the last 35 years promoting angling, and the vast majority of this has been with anglers who were looking to enjoy themselves. It was about the craic, the odd fish, meeting people. I've been fortunate to have ghillie traditional style, i.e rowing on the great sea trout lakes, fished with some of the best anglers, some of them now deceased RIP, men and women right up to their eighties. For the vast majority of these people it was not about killing, scores of fish, It was more about the enjoyment of the sport. Lunch, the craic, passing around the hip flask, the accommodation and finally the local hospitality.

It is easy to mock and jib at those who worked for the protection of our lakes and river. I myself may not always agree with what the WRFB do. But i will say this much it was them who highlighted the issue with LAGAROSIPHON MAJOR, sought funding etc, if it was left to the clubs where would we be now!!!

Your comments about letting is spread, is utter nonsense, if we do, say goodbye to the following, a few to mention, dogs bay, long shallows, birchhall, lime, ower bay,Burnthouse, the narrows, ballinduff. For me any one who displays such irresponsibility, is no different that those who pollute our waters, be it from leaving rubbish on the side of the road or on islands, to contaminating our waters.

I've enough said regardless of what your comments maybe. I will engage no further. I will only ask that you listen to yourself.

regards

mowing it is not solving the problem, im sorry if you think it is, the only reason you call me a troll is because i dont agree with the way you think.... thank god i dont

and by the way you called two people on (this thread alone) a troll ... so you do judge people that dont think the same as you...

i know exactly what a visiting angler wants.. and that is a big fish... and all the rest is just fluff around the edges.... as we are there to fish and catch fish ....

DryFlyFishing · 13-05-2010 2:52pm

Sfinn wrote: »

Is there is a troll amongst us!! MODS

remember now???:)

iv never trolled a lake ... and i never troll a forum... but by calling people trolls and other name calling i wonder who is actually the troll?

and if you dont think a few fishy photos from a week on the corrib does not make peoples mouths water.... well i dont know what to say to that...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdXyjDVwSmw

coolwings · 13-05-2010 4:44pm

... and out comes the "dead fish video" once again ......

I'm not sure what your aim is DFF, but you sure like to stir the pot by disagreeing with just about everything that has been researched and proven, and then putting forward your new alternate theory of everything. Has it occurred to you that maybe, just possibly, better informed people might have already considered these matters, including your take on it, and maybe have already picked a better way using knowledge as their method.

You might consider reading up a little on why things are already the way they are before coming on so forthright with your new way. They say fishing is a lifelong study. Well a little study can go a long way in making fishing friends and influencing the value people place on your views. Have a read on various books on the biology of trout, fishery management, and fishery biology, you are interested in the subject I can tell, but still new to it.

I don't think I will be posting any more in this thread .... except .. it was a marvellous trout, that Corrib fish.
Well done that man for returning it unharmed to mate, spawn and procreate and produce more of it's kind for us and our kids to fish for in the future.

DryFlyFishing · 13-05-2010 5:04pm

coolwings wrote: »

... and out comes the "dead fish video" once again ......

I'm not sure what your aim is DFF, but you sure like to stir the pot by disagreeing with just about everything that has been researched and proven, and then putting forward your new alternate theory of everything. Has it occurred to you that maybe, just possibly, better informed people might have already considered these matters, including your take on it, and maybe have already picked a better way using knowledge as their method.

You might consider reading up a little on why things are already the way they are before coming on so forthright with your new way. They say fishing is a lifelong study. Well a little study can go a long way in making fishing friends and influencing the value people place on your views. Have a read on various books on the biology of trout, fishery management, and fishery biology, you are interested in the subject I can tell, but still new to it.

I don't think I will be posting any more in this thread .... except .. it was a marvellous trout, that Corrib fish.
Well done that man for returning it unharmed to mate, spawn and procreate and produce more of it's kind for us and our kids to fish for in the future.

i am not disagreeing... i just put an example of what was successful in currarevagh bay...
the weed needs to be cut so people can fish and drive over the area... but the weed needs to be killed there is no half measure, and if you think that the cutting boat does not let a lot of weed drift away ...after the boat and boom are gone.... well... ill say no more

if there is no other way... then why is currarevagh bay weed free now? ( because some private individual hired a diver)

can any one else give an example of a bay that had the weed and now has none..???????????????????????????????????? and how it was done?

and of course i have to stay on topic to.. that is the best looking ferox iv seen.... amazing colours...
anyone got a 10 mega pixel photo of it... to see it properly

i presume you do know that most of the infected areas are from people who anchor and then moving position to another part of the lake???

they pull the root out of the ground and bring it with them... they are not cleaning it off fully....

stylie · 13-05-2010 6:01pm

DryFlyFishing wrote: »

i know exactly what a visiting angler wants.. and that is a big fish... and all the rest is just fluff around the edges.... as we are there to fish and catch fish ....

Ah come on, every visiting angler would like the chance of a big fish, but they don't come here just for big fish. Fishing is a lot more than catching fish and I dont think you realize that with your zero appreciation for the fish or the lake.
People come for the combination of craic, scenary, good times with friends, meeting new ones and of course good fishing. Its a sad git that doesn't take it all in.

DryFlyFishing · 13-05-2010 6:23pm

stylie wrote: »

Ah come on, every visiting angler would like the chance of a big fish, but they don't come here just for big fish. Fishing is a lot more than catching fish and I dont think you realize that with your zero appreciation for the fish or the lake.
People come for the combination of craic, scenary, good times with friends, meeting new ones and of course good fishing. Its a sad git that doesn't take it all in.

lol ... of course people come for the fluff....

but it is the dream of getting a big fish that got them all there in the first place...

if there was no fishing they would go somewhere else....

how would you know what way i appreciate a lake or fish.... because i kill a few to eat you think im bad or dont...lol????? i appreciate them more as they are beautiful to eat.... at the end of the day fish are food...

stylie · 13-05-2010 7:34pm

I have seen how you treat the fish in your videos...I keep fish as well but I dont spend two minutes trying to kill them. From your earlier posts its clear you dont appreciate the lake and all its inhabitants. Saying an invasive weed is a good thing..ffs

DryFlyFishing · 13-05-2010 7:37pm

stylie wrote: »

I have seen how you treat the fish in your videos...I keep fish as well but I dont spend two minutes trying to kill them. From your earlier posts its clear you dont appreciate the lake and all its inhabitants. Saying an invasive weed is a good thing..ffs

LMAO --- i was only pointing out the weeds good points... because you lot wont get rid of the weed ill adapt to use it to my advantage... as the fish do ....

all you guys are doing is harvesting it... i am beginning to think people must be smoking it, your growing and harvesting so much every year... and not trying to kill it...

a few minutes????? what to take out a 300 gram knife which is three times heavier than a priest and first whack kills it and the other few are just to kill every bit of residual nerve activity... so it does not tail shake in the bottom of the boat dead...

im sure you all have had a dead fish in the bottom of your boat doing the dead shake...well now you know how to stop that....

but it does not work on all fish ... especially dogfish as you can gut and head them and even 40 minutes later with no head,when you pick them up they will wrap there tail around your arm or hand....

and yes i ate the dogfish....but it tried to get out of the pan

regards
http://www.youtube.com/user/DryFlyFishing

viper123 · 14-05-2010 10:52pm

Lovely Trout :-)

Huge Corrib trout

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