salmon and seatrout fishing thread

fisherking

rain at last to give this parched thread life! roll on the weekend....

jwshooter

fisherking wrote: »

rain at last to give this parched thread life! roll on the weekend....

not enough .

cj salmon

more forecast for today,i hope it comes our river is falling already from a small rise,,,same elsewhere???

mp22

cj salmon wrote: »

more forecast for today,i hope it comes our river is falling already from a small rise,,,same elsewhere???

yea level dropping quickly now,was out for a couple of hours after lunch got 3 small sea trout all released.

fisherking

yeah feck all rain in the end....the only fish gettin over the weirs are flying fish

jwshooter

slight colour in the boro to nite

Zzippy

Connemara rivers in flood yesterday, lots of salmon and sea trout running. Huge numbers in some areas according to counter figures I heard. Just my luck I bust my thumb yesterday and can't cast! :mad:
More rain forecast tomorrow night and next week, hopefully enough to top up the lakes and keep rivers steady for a wee while...

J. Ramone

Anyone notice the first east coast sea trout this year have much better average size than usual, even for early runners.

jwshooter

J. Ramone wrote: »

Anyone notice the first east coast sea trout this year have much better average size than usual, even for early runners.

i was in borodale last nite the trout landed were small .

ironbluedun

was on the moy for a few days recently....my god the grilse are very small again this year....1-2lbs!!!!!!!!!....hopefully better fish will come when the water rises more......here's hoping....an awful lot of bull**** been spoken in tackle shops and pubs about "the amount of fish"

coolwings

ironbluedun wrote: »

....an awful lot of bull**** been spoken in tackle shops and pubs about "the amount of fish"

Every single year on every single river since I started salmon fishing 35 years ago I have listened to "other people's" optimistic estimations of how many fish are in the pools, or in the estuary waiting to run, or seen running during the fresh and will be taking as soon as the waterlevels drop. Dreams and hopes.

It's part of salmon fishing. But rarely based in reality.

You need an accurate friend, with an objective mind. An angler who can catch when they are there, and knows when they are not, and who keeps a diary for accurate comparison with the same week for at least 5 previous seasons.
Without such a friend available, use your own diary from 300 miles away, once rain reports are taken allowed for, it's much more reliable.

ironbluedun

coolwings wrote: »

Every single year on every single river since I started salmon fishing 35 years ago I have listened to "other people's" optimistic estimations of how many fish are in the pools, or in the estuary waiting to run, or seen running during the fresh and will be taking as soon as the waterlevels drop. Dreams and hopes.

It's part of salmon fishing. But rarely based in reality.

You need an accurate friend, with an objective mind. An angler who can catch when they are there, and knows when they are not, and who keeps a diary for accurate comparison with the same week for at least 5 previous seasons.
Without such a friend available, use your own diary from 300 miles away, once rain reports are taken allowed for, it's much more reliable.

all too true i have been listening to it for years...in one ear and out the other......but as someone once said we have to listen to thunder....so draw your own conclusions....

Octopus

You should have been here this morning, yesterday, last week etc etc...

As above, draw your own conclusions if reliable information is not to hand.

mp22

Still no heavy rain in the southwest all rivers are very low.

jwshooter

our little river was poached ,all or most trout gone from the pools

cj salmon

whats that stuff falling from the sky????? much rain in the north west,,if the drowes rises i think il be heading that a ways

Compton

drowes. ewwww. The Moy is the way forward

Eddie B

Lads the moy is on the rise! Anyone who is available to get on the Moy over the next few days, please do!
Don't miss the opportunity, should be plenty of fish on the move!!!!;)

Compton

i'll be there soooooon! can't wait. there are plenty of fish running everyday! but a good flood will deffinately be the big one.

Rycn

Tinytony wrote: »

:mad: :mad: :mad:

Just heard this morning there was a massive slurry spill on a tributary of the river, and that the salmon and trout on the tributary have been wiped out, and obviously the slurry will filter down into the main river, and with waterlevels being so low this could turn out to be a massive disaster just when things were starting to look good again.

Fcuk sake, it never ends...

Eddie B

shblob wrote: »

i'll be there soooooon! can't wait. there are plenty of fish running everyday! but a good flood will deffinately be the big one.

Have a few friends down there since yesterday! Have a couple of fish in the bag already!
They said the river has already risen in the last couple of hours, and its pissin down since around three today!
There expecting a good run of fish in the morning with all the fresh water!
I'll let yee know how they got on tomorrow!

Wish i was there!:(

Compton

I'll be there from sometime mon-wed for a few days. Can't wait, hope the water clears for the time I'm there after the fresh water! I was there last week and when the water goes up it drops back VERY quickly!

Eddie B

shblob wrote: »

I'll be there from sometime mon-wed for a few days. Can't wait, hope the water clears for the time I'm there after the fresh water! I was there last week and when the water goes up it drops back VERY quickly!

I recon tue or wed would be ideal timing!
Let us know how ya get on!;)

Compton

will do. had a few the last few days i was down.

jwshooter

lets hope there biting this morning

Eddie B

The lads landed two fish this morning in foxford, missed another couple of fish! Reports of a lot of fish landed in Ballina yesterday evening!
The water has coloured up badly so might be unfishable for the rest of the day!

When the river clears up a bit your nearly guaranteed good fishing so anyone that has the time, or is on hollidays from work, should get down there now instead of waiting to hear that there,s fish being caught, go down the next day, catch nothing, and lads coming up to you all day saying You should have been here yesterday!

jwshooter

fishing bad this morning .

mp22

jwshooter wrote: »

fishing bad this morning .

same as that was out at 5 30 waste of time

jwshooter

mp22 wrote: »

same as that was out at 5 30 waste of time

out at 4.30 good flood in ,but it was on the drop .

Hlanaayes

Had started my own thread but this seems to be the correct place.

Spent the day out fishing the Mulcair in Limerick. So I made it out at 2 p.m. (much later than I planned but I slept it out!). Much to my delight the river was in great nick. It was at least 1m higher than the last time I was out(about a month ago) and 5ft. is probably closer. There's was a decent current running through the holding pools, with a savage current everywhere else. I used worm all day long. I got a small bite early on but went for him too early and he was gone. He seemed to be small anyway whatever it was. Moments before I was lucky to see an otter bang in the middle of the river, breaching the surface with his catch. He had a nice size fish but was too far away to make out what he had - going by the size I'd say a salmon though. My only catch of the day was a medium sized eel, around 40-45cm. I've never caught or eaten one before so I took him out and will clean and fry him later (my gf is disgusted!).

I was very pleased with the conditions and will try and make it out another couple of times during the week.

mp22

Went out for a hour this evening hooked a fish, but the line broke,just about stopped myself throwing the rod into the river:mad::mad:.

Compton

you should use suitable line :P

mp22

shblob wrote: »

you should use suitable line :P

Would that be fishing line??:cool:

Compton

metal wire would hold better :P

what line do you use? and was it a salmon that broke you?

mp22

Yea it was a salmon,line 15 lb daiwa tournament monofil,I only had him hooked for 20 or 30 seconds,god knows what size he was.

Compton

nah 15lb would never snap on you unless it was damaged somewhere, or if it was a bad know. You should try 50lb braid. It's great stuff for salmon fishing.

Eddie B

I use 12lb breaking strain for salmon!
I've never lost a fish in my life due to a fish snapping the line!
Once you have the drag set properly, this should never happen!

Of course you should change the line at least once a year!;)

Compton

you could get away with 6lb if you know how to play fish properly with the rod/drag.

ironbluedun

15lb maxima ultra-green is an excellent line for salmon worm/shrimp fishing... a horse wouldnt be able to break 15lb maxima!! change the mono every year, maybe more often if the line is used a lot....25lb braid for spinning...braid is lighter and easier to cast longer distance ideal for larger rivers..

cj salmon

salmon running in huge numbers on a local river after that rain (witnessed not rumour),,great to see it,,apparently a couple grilse landed by accident by sea trout fishers,,,this river could be open in a couple years at this rate!!!

mp22

shblob wrote: »

nah 15lb would never snap on you unless it was damaged somewhere, or if it was a bad know. You should try 50lb braid. It's great stuff for salmon fishing.

yea damaged all along the line took a very close look at the line guide on the bale arm the line had cut into the metal and this was doing wreck,line and reel in the bin!
Braid, I have a reel with 50 pound on it i just don't like it for river fishing.
Went to killarney this morning and got a reel in argos a shimano 6000ra
will give it a go later this evening

Eddie B

Lads the official figures for salmon caught at the boxes in Ballina yesterday was 475! Yes 475! This was on the cards lads, and today the big run hit Foxford!
Just got word from the lads, and they had a field day!
They all got fish, most landed their 3 fish limit, and one was back in the b&b by 8AM!
Christ i wish i was there!
If any of yee are off tomorrow, go fishing!!!!;)

ironbluedun

Eddie B wrote: »

Lads the official figures for salmon caught at the boxes in Ballina yesterday was 475! Yes 475! This was on the cards lads, and today the big run hit Foxford!
Just got word from the lads, and they had a field day!
They all got fish, most landed their 3 fish limit, and one was back in the b&b by 8AM!
Christ i wish i was there!
If any of yee are off tomorrow, go fishing!!!!;)

i heard from Ballina the figure was closer to 300....anyway hard to get accurate figures when such a high catch...it sure was wholesale slaughter with many 'anglers' catching above their 3 limit but some others did not exceed the limit... but one guy had 14-16 all killed and into the boot of the car...conservation...conservation what is that? is that a glass yoke on the back of your house??

Eddie B

ironbluedun wrote: »

i heard from Ballina the figure was closer to 300....anyway hard to get accurate figures when such a high catch...it sure was wholesale slaughter with many 'anglers' catching above their 3 limit but some others did not exceed the limit... but one guy had 14-16 all killed and into the boot of the car...conservation...conservation what is that? is that a glass yoke on the back of your house??

Totally agree! Greed is an awfull pastime!!

jwshooter

ironbluedun wrote: »

i heard from Ballina the figure was closer to 300....anyway hard to get accurate figures when such a high catch...it sure was wholesale slaughter with many 'anglers' catching above their 3 limit but some others did not exceed the limit... but one guy had 14-16 all killed and into the boot of the car...conservation...conservation what is that? is that a glass yoke on the back of your house??

what did the western fisheries board officer/s say when it was reported .

ironbluedun

jwshooter wrote: »

what did the western fisheries board officer/s say when it was reported .

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Zzippy

jwshooter wrote: »

what did the western fisheries board officer/s say when it was reported .

Seeing as the Moy is not in the Western area, I'd say he said feck all....

http://www.northwestfisheries.ie/

zacmorris

Hi lads,
Wwill be down at the house on the Barrow for a few days and was going to hit the Nore for some first time Salmon fishing.
Any of you have much experience fishing it?
I was planning on heading to Inistioge.

are all the stretches controlled by local clubs? if so can I buy a day ticket?

Thanks in advance

jwshooter

Zzippy wrote: »

Seeing as the Moy is not in the Western area, I'd say he said feck all....

http://www.northwestfisheries.ie/

what ever fisheries board , if the so called sportsmen dont start been proactive in there sport there eventually be no sport to be active in.

cj salmon

zacmorris wrote: »

Hi lads,
Wwill be down at the house on the Barrow for a few days and was going to hit the Nore for some first time Salmon fishing.
Any of you have much experience fishing it?
I was planning on heading to Inistioge.

are all the stretches controlled by local clubs? if so can I buy a day ticket?

Thanks in advance

day tickets available for thomastown water and killkenny anglers water,,round 25-30 a day,thomastowns is available in the fishing tackle shop in the towns square,great fly water,bit of a late river late august september they get a run,sprinkling of fish earlier if they get a flood,but it needs a lot of water,and salmon not in the main run can be big to 20lbs,not much of a grilse run i dont think ,but dont quote me on that