Mumbai terrorist sentenced

old_aussie

results are in.

Ajmal Amir Kasab has been found guilty of 4 four crimes, murder, waging war against India as well as conspiracy and terrorism.
He's now been sentenced to death.

The terrorists left 166 dead.

Hope they hang him (low drop please).

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/06/AR2010050605860.html

positron

old_aussie wrote: »

He's now been sentenced to death.

The terrorists left 166 dead.

Hope they hang him (low drop please).

He will be around for at least another 5 years, if not 10. He has a chance to appeal to various higher courts in India's extensive legal system, each of which has year or two backlog, and if rejected by all courts, he will have the chance to plead for mercy to the Indian President, who usually sits over it for a while before deciding either way. But good thing is that the Indians are following the proper procedures - and doing the right thing.

ASTRACLUB

positron wrote: »

He will be around for at least another 5 years, if not 10. He has a chance to appeal to various higher courts in India's extensive legal system, each of which has year or two backlog, and if rejected by all courts, he will have the chance to plead for mercy to the Indian President, who usually sits over it for a while before deciding either way. But good thing is that the Indians are following the proper procedures - and doing the right thing.

He is been given 4 death sentence, president can only pardon 1 death sentence, if president pardon more than 2 death sentence on 1 person, he/she could be pulled and loose his jobs as "favorism" under indian constition. Kasab would still carry 3 death sentennce, however, he could still live few more years as this was not aa military court but civil court. Another similiar case Afjal is still manage to get 10 years added to his life as he was also given death sentence and no political want to upset muslim community from vote point of view, but having said that, muslims in India are not carrying any sympathy to Kasab compare to Afjal!!!

Wazdakka

What's with all the faffing about??

I say, feed him a hand grenade sandwich in the morning..

dr.bollocko

I appreciate the sentiment of adding it to the original thread OP but in the interest of keeping things current I have snipped this to a new thread.

ASTRACLUB

wes wrote: »

New? Are you serious? Mumbai, has been attacked several times by Islamic extremists in the past few years and apparently one bomb attack, was even by Hindu extremists. Mumbai, is not a new target at all.

your political and geog knowledge creating some doubts:(

ASTRACLUB

wes wrote: »

I agree with you, there is probably no solution. Especially in India, where it isn't just extremist Muslims engaging in violence, but extremist Hindu groups as well. There violence, basically feeds each other, ensuring that both communities will be victims of violence for a very long time.

some other current affair knowledge is also under question!! would you call the noise created by some wan**** on st patrick day parade at dublin as IRISH EXTREMIST or CATHOLIC HARDLINES??? these ar just event of the modern society and not terrorism. What Kasab and other fellow groupd (AL Q, Tal) doing is terrorism!

wes

ASTRACLUB wrote: »

your political and geog knowledge creating some doubts:(

What are you talking about? Are you denying the existence of Hindu extremists? How about watching some Indian News, there complaining about them all the time in India.

Malegaon blast: Hindu extremists picked up from Indore

There is one example of activity from such groups.

wes

ASTRACLUB wrote: »

some other current affair knowledge is also under question!! would you call the noise created by some wan**** on st patrick day parade at dublin as IRISH EXTREMIST or CATHOLIC HARDLINES???

I made no such mention of the above, but we still have our problems here sadly:
Viable device left outside Derry count centre

ASTRACLUB wrote: »

these ar just event of the modern society and not terrorism. What Kasab and other fellow groupd (AL Q, Tal) doing is terrorism!

Wow, an amazing and absurd straw man arguement. You are talking complete and utter nonsense, and I find your denial of the existence of Hindu extremists to be laughable. The above link, is just one example, and there are many more, that is featured in the Indian media on a regular basis.

Then, there is the Gujarat riots, where Hindutva extremists killed 2000 people, but I am sure you would rather just ignore inconvient facts like that.

Oh and the Indian government aren't squeaky clean either:
Thousands lost in Kashmir mass graves

The above is the kinda crap Saddam pulled, and the whole world condemned.

RoyalMarine

ASTRACLUB wrote: »

your political and geog knowledge creating some doubts:(

did you need to dig up a 2 year old thread just for that?
last post
01-12-2008, 15:23

Abrasax

He's better off dead than rotting in Arthur Road Prison, a cesspit.
He may skip the appeals process and go for martyrdom, seeing as he fluffed it the first time.

wes

Is there really much point in executing a guy who wants to die? Either way, he certainly deserves his punishment.

Manic Moran

wes wrote: »

Is there really much point in executing a guy who wants to die? Either way, he certainly deserves his punishment.

Yes.

It's not just about punishing the guy. It's also about ensuring that the relatives of the 166 victims believe that the appropriate punishment has been delivered.

NTM

wes

Manic Moran wrote: »

Yes.

It's not just about punishing the guy. It's also about ensuring that the relatives of the 166 victims believe that the appropriate punishment has been delivered.

Yes, and I don't disagree, but in this case, the guy wants to die in anyways. Doesn't seem like much of a punishmen to me, in this case.

myflipflops

Given the choice between execution and a lifetime in an Indian jail as a known foreign terrorist, I'll take the death sentence everytime.

Doubly so when it means he becomes a 'martyr' along with the rest of the group responsible.

Lock him up for life. Let him have 40 years of hell.

Manic Moran

wes wrote: »

Yes, and I don't disagree, but in this case, the guy wants to die in anyways. Doesn't seem like much of a punishmen to me, in this case.

You miss my point.

In cases like this, the punishment to the accused almost becomes irrelevant. (Indeed, even in 'normal' death sentence cases where the guy doesn't want to die, the punishment is irrelevant: Hardly as if the guilty is going to have an opportunity to learn from the punishment and better himself, is it?) It is a matter of showing the Indian population that crimes of such a nature will, indeed, result in a death sentence as that's what the Indian population will demand. After all, sentences are generally a reflection of what the society thinks is appropriate, not what the guilty thinks is appropriate.

NTM

positron

Hopefully this will also send a message to the extremist den across the border that when caught, they will be treated fairly, and then punished brutally - giving them less reasons to brag about their 'martyrdom'.

But more than anything, this whole incident hopefully taught Indians how vulnerable they are, and how painful the existing 'survival by numbers' thing that seems to be going on out there.

wes

Manic Moran wrote: »

You miss my point.

In cases like this, the punishment to the accused almost becomes irrelevant. (Indeed, even in 'normal' death sentence cases where the guy doesn't want to die, the punishment is irrelevant: Hardly as if the guilty is going to have an opportunity to learn from the punishment and better himself, is it?) It is a matter of showing the Indian population that crimes of such a nature will, indeed, result in a death sentence as that's what the Indian population will demand. After all, sentences are generally a reflection of what the society thinks is appropriate, not what the guilty thinks is appropriate.

Well, if that what they want more power to them. Still think its pointless to execute a guy who wants to die.

FlutterinBantam

Might stop more terrorists and their bagmen and apologists from getting too cocky.

The Indian nation needs justice seen to be done.

No harm in making the bleeding hearts think again, I would opine.

Too many of them around.

periodictable

They got rid of him this morning-guess more attacks on India will ensue...although he lost faith in his 72 virgins as he had filed a "clemency plea".

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/mumbai-terrorist-attacker-executed-030255929.html

positron

And it only took 2.5 years! Result!

brimal

I hope the Pakistani government get to the bottom of what is now a farcical investigation on their end.

pablomakaveli

brimal wrote: »

I hope the Pakistani government get to the bottom of what is now a farcical investigation on their end.

I wouldnt be so hopeful. You're talking about a government who security forces assist the taliban.

brimal

pablomakaveli wrote: »

I wouldnt be so hopeful. You're talking about a government who security forces assist the taliban.

I won't be holding my breath. It is a complete mess of a government.