Ban on elderly driving

scudzilla

mikom wrote: »

One bus a day in many locations.
That's the problem.

yeah, so they have the 1 bus, how many do they want? Everybody knows pensioners never miss busses, they're always there 45mins before the thing departs

mikom

scudzilla wrote: »

yeah, so they have the 1 bus, how many do they want? Everybody knows pensioners never miss busses, they're always there 45mins before the thing departs

And if they forget their incontinence pads on their first trip, do you expect them to wait till the next day?

scudzilla

mikom wrote: »

And if they forget their incontinence pads on their first trip, do you expect them to wait till the next day?

OOOOOOOOOH, if you spoke to me like that in my day you'd get a clip round the ear :rolleyes::rolleyes:

-Corkie-

Folks this is bs their would be public outcry if this comes in or even talk of it. Me thinks op heard some sheananigins in the pub...

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

scudzilla wrote: »

OOOOOOOOOH, if you spoke to me like that in my day you'd get a clip round the ear :rolleyes::rolleyes:

If this post didn't show your age, your previous posts certainly did

Take it case by case with everyone. Blanket bans are used by lazy muppets.

deman

El Siglo wrote: »

5 pages into this thread and the op hasn't put up a source of the information... Worse still, we're actually arguing over it.

Who's arguing? I think we all agree that the original post is BS.

BTW, a friend of mine in the Finnish army told me that Finland are going to invade Russia this year. Must be true :rolleyes: :pac:

Indubitable

deman wrote: »

Who's arguing? I think we all agree that the original post is BS.

BTW, a friend of mine in the Finnish army told me that Finland are going to invade Russia this year. Must be true :rolleyes: :pac:

World War III ??

Liam Byrne

georgefalls wrote: »

This causes other motorists to take risks Leading to THEM having the accidents.

Anyone who takes stupid risks, for whatever reason, is the cause of the accident.

No matter what's on the road, you don't overtake it on a white line or a bend.....no matter how slow it's going.

If we followed the above argument, we'd ban cyclists!

the_syco

Anyone that has elderly relatives in the countryside know that without their cars, they'll have extremely limited human contact. Heck, my grandad likes going to mass, which is a 30 minute drive down the road.

So I'd say this is bullsh|t.

-Corkie-

I think this thread should be closed until we have concrete information.

mikom

SARASON wrote: »

I think this thread should be closed until we have concrete information.

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RMD

bubbleking wrote: »

The Road Safety Authority (RSA) is set to announce a blanket ban on anybody over the age of 75 driving a vehicle on a public road. Its their latest attempt to cut down on the amount of raod accidents claiming that members of this age bracket are responsible for a high proportion of road deaths.

seems a little harsh to me in fairness

I think this is pretty disgraceful. What are people over the age of 75 supposed to do in rural areas if they have no access to transport and there is no local shops?

A much smarter solution is to make every person over the age of say 65-70 resit their driving exam, that way those who still are decent drivers can drive, those who aren't up to it just wont be able to drive then.

FlutterinBantam

RMD wrote: »

I think this is pretty disgraceful. What are people over the age of 75 supposed to do in rural areas if they have no access to transport and there is no local shops?

A much smarter solution is to make every person over the age of say 65-70 resit their driving exam, that way those who still are decent drivers can drive, those who aren't up to it just wont be able to drive then.

Why would you advocate that pal.?

they are not the people causing the problem.

It's the spotty chinned gits who think they are Ayrton Senna who are ploughing into ditches every weekend.


get a grip man!

Mister men

galwayrush wrote: »

Just saw a modifyed car at a local shop with a large inscription on the back window...'Galway Chancers---coming to a crossroads near you soon'
I didn't wait long enough to see if the driver was over 75, somehow i doubt it.:rolleyes:

Idiots like that should just have their cars taken from them and crushed and don't anyone give me that "they have rights just like anyone else" bull****.

FlutterinBantam

Mister men wrote: »

Idiots like that should just have their cars taken from them and crushed and don't anyone give me that "they have rights just like anyone else" bull****.

Preferably with the spotty chinned little knob jockeys in it.

-Corkie-

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Preferably with the spotty chinned little knob jockeys in it.

Now ye`re talkin:cool:

Indubitable

Mister men wrote: »

Idiots like that should just have their cars taken from them and crushed and don't anyone give me that "they have rights just like anyone else" bull****.

everyone should have the right to drive regardless of what is on the back window

FlutterinBantam

kingofthe3rdyrs wrote: »

everyone should have the right to drive regardless of what is on the back window

Of course, not on the public roads though.

Little gap toothed goons will be bleating to the judge when they kill some innocent.

Paddy Samurai

Anything that saves lives is good!!!!!!.

Only people between 30 and 35 should be allowed to drive,everyone else should be banned.

Indubitable

Paddy Samurai wrote: »

Anything that saves lives is good!!!!!!.

Only people between 30 and 35 should be allowed to drive,everyone else should be banned.

still not saving enough lives.
No one should be allowed drive.:P
Helps the environment too:cool:

DonJose

Hopefully this ban will prevent the following!!!

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=56152469#post56152469

murf313

galwayrush wrote: »

I think the u-25's are definitely the worst offenders, i say that because of my everyday experience of them on the roads.

dont be tarring everyone with the same brush.

ive just turned 25 and i have a c1 and d1 licence. ive driven fire tenders and emergency ambulances for the past 4 years.

im pretty sure im a good driver.

in my experiences its the auld lads who are pig ignorant and stick to their 60kph. alot of them wont even pull in for you if your on lights/sirens. They are feckin dangerous:mad:

recylingbin

If they ban women as well, I'm all for it.

ottostreet

according to the RSA

40% of all road deaths in ireland were aged 25 or younger. which means that 60% were caused by the over-25s.

so we should ban the over 25s from driving, since that will save the greater proportion of people.

Also added to the fact that younger drivers tend to drive more than older (as in retirement age and upwards) and it appears that...per mile driven, it is OLDER drivers who die more frequently on Irish roads.

Statistics can be used to prove any agenda really.

Degsy

I was in the NCT centre on friday and ther was this crone in the queue in front of me..she was certainly in her 80's and bent double,shuffling along and barely able to speak.
I assumed she was in the care of this bloke who was there with her til i saw her handing in an nct test form herself!
I have every respect and sympathy for the elderly but this woman was barely alive..how she could be expected to drive a vehicle safely when she was clearly not in possesion of her full faculties is quite worrying.

phantom_lord

gay byrne is hardly going to try and get himself banned from driving is he?

starbelgrade

ottostreet wrote: »

according to the RSA

40% of all road deaths in ireland were aged 25 or younger. which means that 60% were caused by the over-25s.

so we should ban the over 25s from driving, since that will save the greater proportion of people.

Also added to the fact that younger drivers tend to drive more than older (as in retirement age and upwards) and it appears that...per mile driven, it is OLDER drivers who die more frequently on Irish roads.

Statistics can be used to prove any agenda really.

You say that "statistics can be used to prove any agenda" and you have just proved that point, or at least you would have, only your interpretation of the RSA statistics, leave a lot to be desired.

Firstly, if 40% of road death victims were under 25, then 60% of road death victims were over 25. This does not mean that "60% were caused by the over-25s" as there are no figures to indicate which age demographic actually caused the deaths.

Secondly, there are no figures to indicate how many people from each age bracket are actually using the roads, so the figures are only a breakdown of deaths by percentage.

For example, if there are 2 million over 25 drivers & 1 million under 25 drivers on the road, and 100 people are killed with 40% of deaths from the under 25s & 60% from the over 25s, then the proportion of deaths is actually higher for under the 25s.

Thirdly, you state that it is a 'fact' that "younger drivers tend to drive more than older (as in retirement age and upwards) and it appears that...per mile driven, it is OLDER drivers who die more frequently on Irish roads."

This however, is not a fact. It is something that you plucked from the air to make a point & whilst it may well be true, you have nothing to back it up with & seem for whatever reason, to be skewing statistics & making sh*t up just to suit your own agenda. Whatever that may be.

Tail Wagger

rarnes1 wrote: »

This smells like BS.

I'd ban under 25's from driving instead

Yea after 10pm and before 6.30am?...

ottostreet

starbelgrade wrote: »

You say that "statistics can be used to prove any agenda" and you have just proved that point, or at least you would have, only your interpretation of the RSA statistics, leave a lot to be desired.

Firstly, if 40% of road death victims were under 25, then 60% of road death victims were over 25. This does not mean that "60% were caused by the over-25s" as there are no figures to indicate which age demographic actually caused the deaths.

Secondly, there are no figures to indicate how many people from each age bracket are actually using the roads, so the figures are only a breakdown of deaths by percentage.

For example, if there are 2 million over 25 drivers & 1 million under 25 drivers on the road, and 100 people are killed with 40% of deaths from the under 25s & 60% from the over 25s, then the proportion of deaths is actually higher for under the 25s.

Thirdly, you state that it is a 'fact' that "younger drivers tend to drive more than older (as in retirement age and upwards) and it appears that...per mile driven, it is OLDER drivers who die more frequently on Irish roads."

This however, is not a fact. It is something that you plucked from the air to make a point & whilst it may well be true, you have nothing to back it up with & seem for whatever reason, to be skewing statistics & making sh*t up just to suit your own agenda. Whatever that may be.

true that. But, as FlutterinBantam so eloquently put it, 'the stats prove it buddy'...and the stats are that it is not the under 25s who are dying in crashes, at least by comparison to over 25s.

and while i acknowledge that it is only my opinion that older drivers drive less, logic dictates that the older person of retirement age, will not need to drive as much, since they will not be driving to work or college. There will obviously be the older people who drive around for fun or sightseeing with their other halves or whatever, but to argue that the elderly (which is whom this blanket ban is proposing to ban) account for even close to the same mileage as under-25s would just be silly.

Tail Wagger

Degsy wrote: »

I was in the NCT centre on friday and ther was this crone in the queue in front of me..she was certainly in her 80's and bent double,shuffling along and barely able to speak.
I assumed she was in the care of this bloke who was there with her til i saw her handing in an nct test form herself!
I have every respect and sympathy for the elderly but this woman was barely alive..how she could be expected to drive a vehicle safely when she was clearly not in possesion of her full faculties is quite worrying.

And your a specialist Doctor to make this decision?

MeerKat17

The same man (75 +) backed into my car twice in the last 2 weeks! first time was in a supermarket car park, he was trying to reverse park into a parking space that didn't exist, it was just a small gap in front of my car and the car beside me, he had no spacial awareness and backed right into my car while I was sitting in it. The second time he was ahead of me at a junction and started to roll backwards, I beeped my horn but he continued to roll back and again hit my car. Thankfully there was no damage either time as he was going slow.
I don't think 75+ should be banned but I do think there should be regular driving tests (such as every 2/3 years) for the over 70's.

recylingbin

Find out how many people in the country have a car.
Then allocate one road to each person on a particular day for however long it took for everyone to have a drive. Rinse and repeat.
If you were caught on the road you weren't supposed to be on on your allocated day, ban for life.
If you were caught driving on a day that wasn't your day, beheading.

Simples.


Or, ban roads.

starbelgrade

ottostreet wrote: »

and the stats are that it is not the under 25s who are dying in crashes, at least by comparison to over 25s.

As I pointed out, this is not actually the case. Whilst only 40% of the deaths were from the under 25s, this doesn't take into account the percentage of deaths in proportion to the number of road users in each age bracket, so to say that this statistic proves anything, other than a breakdown of the number of deaths by percentage, has no real basis.

muckwarrior

Apparently they're going to ban people with red hair too. My counsin's girlfriend's dog's vet's wife works for the RSA and she told me.

bubbleking

yawn thanks for the lulz - at first some of you were

http://xspblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/bfo-rlmente.jpg

and i was like

http://thaguitarist.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/ya-rly.jpg

then 10 pages later and still some people are like

http://files.myopera.com/drlaunch/albums/37656/no-wai001.jpg

iv come to the conclusion you as a community have been

http://www.handtools-china.com/images/SpiritLevel_6999.jpg

(i tried to get a pic of a thanks whore but all the links on the net just led me back here)

why did i do this you ask?

http://randazza.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/lulz.jpg

mikom

Spoilered links are not clickable..........

so you're wasting your time.

Degsy

Tail Wagger wrote: »

And your a specialist Doctor to make this decision?

No but i know a doddery,deaf,half-blind,blithering senile old fool shouldnt be driving a car.

scudzilla

muckwarrior wrote: »

Apparently they're going to ban people with red hair too. My counsin's girlfriend's dog's vet's wife works for the RSA and she told me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY39fkmqKBM

mconigol

even if this was remotely true what 75 year old is going to pay the least bit of attention to this?? :rolleyes:......they're 75 ffs...it's not like they're actually going to listen!...i wouldn't

starbelgrade

mconigol wrote: »

even if this was remotely true what 75 year old is going to pay the least bit of attention to this?? :rolleyes:......they're 75 ffs...it's not like they're actually going to listen!...i wouldn't

Haha - very true..

Garda; "Can I see your licence please?"

Old Man; "Hello"

Garda; "Can I see you LICENCE PLEASE?"

Old Man; "WHAT? You'll have to speak up sonny, my hearing isn't the best."

Garda; "YOUR DRIVING LICENCE"

Old Man; "Yes, it is a nice evening."

Garda; "What age are you sir?"

Old Man; "Tuesday."

Garda; "Oh for f*cks sake - Just drive on.."

FlutterinBantam

Honda Civic with four pizza faces stopped by the law

The law: Is this your car

Pizza face: Whah!

TL: Is This your car?

PF: Nnnyeh..........ehhh nao is me Maaaaaaas

TL: Have you a license

PF: A whoh Nnnnyeh......eh nao.

TL: Please step out of the car

PF: Whoh... Oiii was aunli doohin noooondy


Anyway... it's the markets which prove it.... why do insurance companies charge the pizza faces and baseball caps a huge premium??

Why Flutther I hear you ask?

Because the pizza faced gimps keep hammering themselves and cars into walls.

That can be expensive.;)

mconigol

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Honda Civic with four pizza faces stopped by the law

The law: Is this your car

Pizza face: Whah!

TL: Is This your car?

PF: Nnnyeh..........ehhh nao is me Maaaaaaas

TL: Have you a license

PF: A whoh Nnnnyeh......eh nao.

TL: Please step out of the car

PF: Whoh... Oiii was aunli doohin noooondy


Anyway... it's the markets which prove it.... why do insurance companies charge the pizza faces and baseball caps a huge premium??

Why Flutther I hear you ask?

Because the pizza faced gimps keep hammering themselves and cars into walls.

That can be expensive.;)

i'm confused...

syklops

There has been no announcement from the RSA about this today, as promised by the OP. Its obvious now that he has been tango'ed.

I am a bit disappointed to be honest. I was really looking forward to the RSA taking on the over 75s. The one age group most likely to fight a decision like this. If it was brought old biddys would be camped outside Gay Byrnes house until the decision was reversed.

Basq

syklops wrote: »

There has been no announcement from the RSA about this today, as promised by the OP.

** feigns surprise **

Oh.. that's.. a.. shocker..!

SV

mconigol wrote: »

i'm confused...

he's trying to be funny..best get used to it

FlutterinBantam

SV wrote: »

he's trying to be funny..best get used to it

Just stating the facts pal.

Best get used to it.:rolleyes:

SV

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Just stating the facts pal.

Best get used to it.:rolleyes:

nothing factual about your little story there attempting to be funny, pal.

FlutterinBantam

http://www.roadsafetycouncil.com/graphics/news/congress08/mauricemurphy.pdf


Try these facts then pal.

SV

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

http://www.roadsafetycouncil.com/graphics/news/congress08/mauricemurphy.pdf


Try these facts then pal.

Yeah, eh none of that is proving any of your little scenarios you're making up here?
it actually says the average age for all of this is 26 so eh?

and their proof of any of this crap about the rté adverts is from one group of school children..lol


as you might note from the statistics you sent me, the 26-40 group are in more fatal accidents, they should be targeted instead no?

FlutterinBantam

You are getting your kex in a twist pal, more people in the 26-40 age group have cars and are driving.

It's the little pimply faced pinheaded gimps driving around and think they know it all, that rattles my cage.

Stupid inane grins on their faces.

Insurance companies are not idiots, they are picking these punters out of ditches every weekend.