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The 14 days hot hot hot! trainers log

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  • 09-05-2010 12:09pm
    #1
    mike65
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    So whats this about then?

    We all know that trainers run through hot and cold spells and that when a yard hits form its a good idea to follow until they cool off. I've decided that 14 days is a reasonable period to measure the hot streak (anyone can have a good few days while I suspect a month is too long esp in the flat world)

    For the purposes of this thread the trainer must have had at least 10 runners in the previous 14 days with a 25% win rate, the s/p is not considered.

    So who's hot right now?

    Michael JARVIS (M. A. JARVIS) 25 runners 11 winners 6 placed.

    John GODSEN (J. GOSDEN) 27 runners 7 winners 7 placed

    William KNIGHT (W. J. KNIGHT) 19 runners 6 winners 3 placed.


    I'll update this thread twice a week (Sunday and Thursday), what you decide to do with this info is up to you. :)


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    #2
    skeleton_boy
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    Great thread Mike


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    Gavin "shels"
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    Good idea, where would be the best place to find the horses trained by the selected trainers, tried ATR there but didn't come up with anything.


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    mike65
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    If you are looking for entries over the next 48 hours, use www.timeform.com/free, click Trainers and copy and paste the name in brackets and you'll get a list of runners.


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    POINTBREAK
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    Good idea Mike. Is there anyway of easily checking trainers who are out of form?
    I know the Racing Post gives a percentage figure for the trainers horses who have run to form based on their RPR but that can be a bit misleading as far as I can see since if they only have 3 or 4 runners that ran to their rating but didn't win they could still achieve a 100% rating. According to the Post 72% of William Knights horses are running to form, but John Berry has 100% of his RTF, but he has only has 3 winners in the last 18 months.


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    mike65
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    I use Adrian Massey for all this sort of thing. Avoid Paul Midgley!


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    POINTBREAK
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    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=65814473#post65814473

    You guys might be interested in this.


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    mike65
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    When looking for John Gosden copy and paste J. H. M. Gosden into timeform.


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    mike65
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    M A JARVIS 28 runners 10 wins 7 placed 35.7% win rate

    Bubbling under -

    MISS TRACY WAGGOTT 8 runners 4 wins 2 placed 50% win rate
    D R LANIGAN 7 runners 3 wins 1 placed 43% win rate
    G A HARKER 8 runners 3 wins 1 placed 37.5% win rate


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    mike65
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    M. A. JARVIS 28 runners 9 wins 7 placed 32% win rate (nearly all wins at the start of this period)
    H. CECIL 29 runners 8 wins 6 places 27.6% win rate
    D. H. BROWN 12 runners 3 wins 4 places 25.0% win rate

    Bubbling under

    J. HOWARD JOHNSON 8 runners 3 wins 0 places 37.5% win rate


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    mike65
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    H. CECIL 28 runners 10 wins 4 places 35.7% win rate
    R. CHARLTON 16 runners 5 wins 3 places 31.2% win rate
    T. BARRON 17 runners 5 winners 4 places 29.4% win rate
    J. HOWARD JOHNSON 14 runners 4 wins 2 places 28.6% win rate
    J. JENKINS 11 runners 3 winners 1 place 27.3% win rate
    M. DODS 26 runners 7 winners 4 places 26.9% win rate
    L. CUMANI 23 runners 6 wins 6 places 26.1% win rate


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    mike65
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    H CECIL 24 runners 11 wins 2 places 45.8% win rate
    A BALDING 25 runners 7 winners 4 places 29% win rate
    J JENKINS 15 runners 4 winners 1 place 26.7% win rate
    R CHARLTON 20 runners 5 winners 3 places 25% win rate
    L CUMANI 20 runners 5 winners 5 places 25% win rate
    R M WHITAKER 12 runners 3 winners 3 places 25% win rate


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    mike65
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    H CECIL 21 runners 9 winners 1 placed 42% win rate
    M SAUNDERS 10 runners 4 winners 1 placed 40% win rate
    A BAILEY 11 runners 4 winners 2 placed 36.4% win rate
    R CHARLTON 18 runners 6 winners 1 placed 33.3% win rate
    L CUMANI 17 runners 5 winners 4 placed 29.4% win rate
    E A L DUNLOP 15 runners 4 winners 3 placed 26.7% win rate
    J HOWARD JOHNSON 19 runners 5 winners 5 placed 26.3% win rate
    A BALDING 27 runners 7 winners 5 placed 26% win rate


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    mike65
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    M SAUNDERS 10 runners 5 winners 1 placed 50% win rate
    M A JARVIS 20 runners 8 winners 5 placed 40% win rate
    J BETHELL 13 runners 5 winners 1 placed 38.5% win rate
    MISS TRACY WAGGOTT 10 runners 3 winners 2 placed 30% win rate
    A BAILEY 10 runners 3 winners 2 placed 30% win rate
    H CECIL 17 runners 5 winners 2 placed 29.4% win rate
    L CUMANI 14 runners 4 winners 5 placed 28.6% win rate
    R CHARLTON 18 runners 5 winners 1 placed 27.8% win rate
    J DUNLOP 19 runners 5 winners 4 placed 26.3% win rate
    W HAGGAS 23 runners 6 winners 5 placed 26.1% win rate
    J JENKINS 12 runners 3 winners 0 placed 25.0% win rate


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    mike65
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    I'm raising the bar to 30% win rate as things are getting quite competitive!

    M SAUNDERS 10 runners 5 winners 1 placed 50% win rate
    J HETHERTON 9 runnrers 4 winners 2 placed 44.4% win rate
    M A JARVIS 22 runners 9 wins 7 placed 40.9% win rate
    J BETHELL 11 runners 4 wins 1 placed 36.4% win rate
    SIR MARK PRESCOTT 25 runners 8 wins 7 placed 32.0% win rate
    P D'ARCY 10 runners 3 wins 4 placed 30.0% win rate
    L CUMANI 20 runners 6 wins 7 placed 30.0% win rate


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    mike65
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    SIR MARK PRESCOTT 27 runners 13 wins 7 placed 48.1% win rate
    M SAUNDERS 11 runners 5 winners 0 placed 48.1% win rate
    J BETHELL 10 runners 4 wins 1 placed 40.0% win rate
    L CUMANI 26 runners 10 wins 8 placed 38.5% win rate
    M A JARVIS 29 runners 10 wins 12 placed 40.9% win rate
    P D'ARCY 10 runners 3 wins 3 placed 30.0% win rate


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    mike65
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    SIR MARK PRESCOTT 29 runners 13 wins 7 placed 44.8% win rate
    M SAUNDERS 10 runners 4 winners 0 placed 40.0% win rate
    J BETHELL 11 runners 4 wins 1 placed 36.4% win rate
    L CUMANI 24 runners 9 wins 7 placed 37.5% win rate
    H CANDY 11 runners 4 wins 1 placed 36.4% win rate

    Bubbling under
    T BARRON 22 runners 6 wins 6 placed 27.3% win rate
    M A JARVIS 33 runners 8 wins 13 placed 24.2% win rate


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    mike65
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    SIR MARK PRESCOTT 23 runners 10 wins 5 placed 43.5% win rate
    L CUMANI 20 runners 8 winners 6 placed 40.0% win rate
    SAEED SUROOR 15 runners 6 wins 3 placed 40.0% win rate
    R CHARLTON 15 runners 5 wins 1 placed 33.3% win rate
    PAUL GREEN 13 runners 4 wins 2 placed 30.8% win rate
    P CHAPPLE-HYAM 13 runners 4 wins 0 placed 30.8% win rate
    M SAUNDERS 11 runners 3 wins 0 placed 27.3% win rate
    S DOW 12 runners 3 wins 2 placed 25.0% win rate


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    mike65
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    SIR MARK PRESCOTT 23 runners 9 wins 6 placed 39.1% win rate
    PAT EDDERY 13 runners 4 winners 2 placed 30.8% win rate
    MRS A DUFFIELD 13 runners 4 winners 4 placed 30/8% win rate
    L CUMANI 24 runners 7 winners 5 placed 29.2% win rate
    SAEED SUROOR 18 runners 5 wins 4 placed 27.8% win rate
    S DOW 11 runners 3 wins 2 placed 27.3% win rate
    R CHARLTON 20 runners 5 wins 1 placed 25.0% win rate


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    mike65
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    MRS A DUFFIELD 11 runners 4 winners 2 placed 36.4% win rate
    PAT EDDERY 13 runners 4 winners 2 placed 30.8% win rate
    S DOW 11 runners 3 wins 2 placed 27.3% win rate
    R CHARLTON 22 runners 6 wins 1 placed 27.3% win rate
    L CUMANI 27 runners 7 winners 4 placed 25.9% win rate
    SIR MARK PRESCOTT 16 runners 4 wins 4 placed 25.0% win rate
    J HILLS 16 runners 4 wins 1 placed 25.0% win rate


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    mike65
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    SIR MARK PRESCOTT 15 runners 5 wins 4 placed 33.3% win rate
    PAT EDDERY 13 runners 4 winners 2 placed 30.8% win rate
    J HILLS 16 runners 5 wins 2 placed 26.3% win rate
    R BECKETT 27 runners 7 wins 3 placed 25.9% win rate
    T.P. TATE 12 runners 3wins 1 placed 25.0% win rate
    J NOSEDA 27 runners 7 wins 5 placed 25.9% win rate
    W R SWINBURN 20 runners 5 wins 2 placed 25.0% win rate


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    LittleLebowski
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    Great thread. Keep it up.


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    mike65
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    PAT EDDERY 10 runners 3 winners 1 placed 30.0% win rate
    J HILLS 17 runners 5 wins 4 placed 29.4% win rate
    W R SWINBURN 22 runners 6 wins 2 placed 27.3% win rate
    R BECKETT 22 runners 6 wins 3 placed 27.3% win rate
    SIR MARK PRESCOTT 15 runners 4 wins 6 placed 26.7% win rate
    R CHARLTON 20 runners 5 wins 2 placed 25.0% win rate


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    R CHARLTON 19 runners 7 wins 2 placed 36.8% win rate -
    PAT EDDERY 13 runners 4 winners 1 placed 30.8% win rate -
    M A JARVIS 24 runners 7 winners 5 places 29.2% win rate -
    R BECKETT 21 runners 6 wins 3 placed 29.2% win rate -
    C BRITTAIN 32 eunners 8 winners 3 places 25.0% win rate


    Bubbling under
    W R SWINBURN 21 runners 5 wins 4 placed 23.8% win rate
    G A HARKER 13 runners 3 wins 2 placed 23.1% win rate


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    mike65
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    R CHARLTON 17 runners 7 wins 2 placed 41.2% win rate
    G A HARKER 11 runners 4 wins 2 placed 36.4% win rate
    M AL ZAROONI 19 runers 6 wins 4 placed 31.6% win rate
    M A JARVIS 27 runners 8 winners 7 placed 29.6% win rate (15% loss)
    SIR MARK PRESCOTT 17 runners 5 wins 5 placed 29.4% win rate (4% loss)
    J NOSEDA 18 runners 5 wins 6 places 27.8% win rate
    H CECIL 11 runners 3 winners 2 placed 27.3% win rate
    R BECKETT 21 runners 6 wins 3 placed 29.2% win rate
    G A BUTLER 12 runners 3 wins 1 placed 25.0% win rate
    W R SWINBURN 24 runners 6 wins 3 placed 25.0% win rate
    B ELLISON 20 runners 5 winners 7 placed 25.0% win rate
    A CARROLL 12 runners 3 winners 0 placed 25.0% win rate
    L CUMANI 20 runners 5 winners 7 placed 25.0% win rate (30% loss)


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    POINTBREAK
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    Mike, you seem to be missing Jimmy Noseda. 6 winners from his last 19 runners in the last 14 days.

    Make that 7


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    POINTBREAK
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    3 winners from 3 runners so far today for Mark Johnston and one to come at 9:20.


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    mike65
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    He ain't on the list though! He might well be on Thursday (Johnson has so many horses you have to pick and choose additional criteria carefully).


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    POINTBREAK
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    Here's an interesting stat.

    The Prescott yard has had only two of the last 17 runners out of the frame.


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    mike65
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    Prices are awful! Too many 2nds and 3rds for comfort (unless you pile in using PP insured betting).


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    mike65
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    Cut of raised to 30%, getting competitive again.

    R CHARLTON 18 runners 9 wins 1 placed 50.0% win rate
    G A HARKER 11 runners 4 wins 0 placed 36.4% win rate
    H CECIL 12 runers 4 wins 1 placed 33.3% win rate
    B ELLISON 12 runners 4 wins 3 placed 33.3% win rate
    GEORGE BAKER 12 runners 4 wins 1 placed 33.3% win rate
    S DOW 10 runners 3 wins 1 placed 30.0% win rate
    TRACY WAGGOTT 10 winners 3 wins 2 placed 30.0% win rate


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