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deelite wrote: »

Can I come please thanx.:D

I'm in!

Effluo

efla wrote: »

This thread isn't about Bills personal business skills, it is about his warped impression of reality.

Well actually you stated that the only commendable thing about his how ignorant he is. That he was hardworking and just lucky to get where he is today.

Ofc this thread is also about his skills! You made it about his skills when you made that ridiculous statement!

I was arguing otherwise. How could this thread not be about his personal skills!??

efla wrote: »

The man has not had to spend a day of his latter years (note: latter - the world is a difference place now) in the circumstances of those he looks down. I don't know if you saw his guff on the late late last night (he manages to weasel in the 'look where I came from' every time). It's a different story when you're sitting at home with an unemployed partner wondering what you're doing wrong. There are no doors to bang on, no bit jobs, there isn't anyone to 'sell yourself' to. All the hard work and good intentions in the world will not create positions - there is nothing to exploit. Equally, not everyone will have access to the things required for small business start up - who will they sell to? Who will give SME credit to someone long-term unemployed with no capital? How can you exploit a stagnant market? How can you overcome the issue of effective demand?

It's silly to think that everyone in all of Ireland can make it big by starting a successful business or even get a job simply from working hard.

But it's equally silly to say that's it's impossible for anyone to do it.

The whole idea of the panel last night on the late late was to talk about the damning negativity which many people seem consumed with right now. You obviously missed the message, that things really are not as bad as some people are making it out to be and we should keep on working at whatever we can and not lay down.

I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that someone was implying that people on the dole are scum.

Sure there's more unemployment now than there was a few years ago, but there will always be business opportunities no matter how bad it gets.

Mr. SS

People need to stop moaning. I have three jobs lined up for the summer, I can't be that f**kin amazing. On the other hand, the majority of my friends from home are sitting on their hoops doing two/maybe three days of work while claiming the dole. They don't want a job, they've never had it better and I'm paying for it.
When I finish this year if I dont find a job in three months I'm outa here, I wudnt stay and sponge. The netherlands has the lowest unemployment rate in Europe, coming into summer they will be looking for lots of english speakers for tourism and its not a million miles away. Leave if your not happy.

evercloserunion

Mr. SS wrote: »

People need to stop moaning. I have three jobs lined up for the summer, I can't be that f**kin amazing. On the other hand, the majority of my friends from home are sitting on their hoops doing two/maybe three days of work while claiming the dole. They don't want a job, they've never had it better and I'm paying for it.
When I finish this year if I dont find a job in three months I'm outa here, I wudnt stay and sponge. The netherlands has the lowest unemployment rate in Europe, coming into summer they will be looking for lots of english speakers for tourism and its not a million miles away. Leave if your not happy.

Yeah there are tons of jobs about, everyone else is just lying :rolleyes:

Seriously, recessions do not happen because large numbers of people simultaneously decide that they can no longer be arsed working. You have to accept that, while some people are hardworking and fortunate enough to find work in this kind of climate, not everyone is so fortunate.

It's great that you can just take off to the Netherlands in search of work, some people have families to support or are otherwise tied to Ireland, maybe they can't afford to support themselves while they search for work in another country. You have to stop generalising your own peachy experience onto a population of people who, statistically speaking, are unlikely to share your experience.

Mr. SS

evercloserunion wrote: »

Yeah there are tons of jobs about, everyone else is just lying :rolleyes:

I never said that now! just that its not the end of the world.

evercloserunion wrote: »

Seriously, recessions do not happen because large numbers of people simultaneously decide that they can no longer be arsed working. You have to accept that, while some people are hardworking and fortunate enough to find work in this kind of climate, not everyone is so fortunate.

Yeah, I never said everyone, just people I know.

evercloserunion wrote: »

It's great that you can just take off to the Netherlands in search of work, some people have families to support or are otherwise tied to Ireland, maybe they can't afford to support themselves while they search for work in another country. You have to stop generalising your own peachy experience onto a population of people who, statistically speaking, are unlikely to share your experience.

Statistically speaking, students (as this is a college forum) have very little substantial ties to Ireland. I never suggested families should uproot or generalised my thoughts on them, just young students like me, who are statistically far more likely to be reading this thread.

Beau

Loads of jobs going in Bank of America if anyone wants a reference (graduating and graduates only I'm afraid).

Citi are also employing a lot too.

Kiwi_knock

Young and unemployed? Willing to work for free? Most likely you will not end up with a job.
It is just me or is Bill's idea strangely similar to the concept of The Apprentice.

princess_calico

Mr. SS wrote: »

People need to stop moaning. I have three jobs lined up for the summer, I can't be that f**kin amazing. On the other hand, the majority of my friends from home are sitting on their hoops doing two/maybe three days of work while claiming the dole. They don't want a job, they've never had it better and I'm paying for it.

You're one of the lucky few! I've work experience the length of my arm and have glowing references from restaurants, clothes shops, gift shops, chinese take away, publishing company, a playschool and I've worked with a newspaper and a magazine. I've worked with other companies for the experience, without pay and I have been a volunteer with New Dawn for about two years now, doing most of their promotional work and a lot of fundraising coordination.
I will work ANYWHERE that I can get a job- but at the moment there is nothing there! I have bombarded all of Gorey with CV's as that's where I'm going to be over the summer. There's no point trying anywhere further afield since I have no way of getting there because the public transport in Gorey is a sham. It's hard enough for me to get into the town (I live in a village about 8 miles away) so I can't depend on it.
I agree with what you're saying about the spongers that don't want to work or have no intentions to. I've been working since I was 14, during school terms and over holidays, often working two jobs at a time- but at the moment there is nothing available.
To prove my point, a cinema is opening on the 11th June in Gorey. They received over 1,000 CV's including many from people with PHDs and Masters and most of them didn't even get an interview because nearly every job went to TY students. They had 40 interviews for 25 positions and every TY that got an interview got a job.

So apologies that some of us are moaning, but we're trying to cope with reality.

yup people with Phds went for jobs at the cinema in Gorey
http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/rush-for-25-cinema-jobs-2182620.html

Mr. SS

Beau wrote: »

Loads of jobs going in Bank of America if anyone wants a reference (graduating and graduates only I'm afraid).

Citi are also employing a lot too.

Citi group are employing people on the dole

Mr. SS

Deleted User wrote: »

yup people with Phds went for jobs at the cinema in Gorey
http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/rush-for-25-cinema-jobs-2182620.html

no harm there!

Mr. SS

princess_calico wrote: »

You're one of the lucky few! I've work experience the length of my arm and have glowing references from restaurants, clothes shops, gift shops, chinese take away, publishing company, a playschool and I've worked with a newspaper and a magazine. I've worked with other companies for the experience, without pay and I have been a volunteer with New Dawn for about two years now, doing most of their promotional work and a lot of fundraising coordination.
I will work ANYWHERE that I can get a job- but at the moment there is nothing there! I have bombarded all of Gorey with CV's as that's where I'm going to be over the summer. There's no point trying anywhere further afield since I have no way of getting there because the public transport in Gorey is a sham. It's hard enough for me to get into the town (I live in a village about 8 miles away) so I can't depend on it.
I agree with what you're saying about the spongers that don't want to work or have no intentions to. I've been working since I was 14, during school terms and over holidays, often working two jobs at a time- but at the moment there is nothing available.
To prove my point, a cinema is opening on the 11th June in Gorey. They received over 1,000 CV's including many from people with PHDs and Masters and most of them didn't even get an interview because nearly every job went to TY students. They had 40 interviews for 25 positions and every TY that got an interview got a job.

So apologies that some of us are moaning, but we're trying to cope with reality.

If youve done the playschool you should try trabolgan, always taking on for the summer, and moving to cork would be good craic working with loads your age. They love people who have already worked with kids, just a thought

Effluo

Deleted User wrote: »

yup people with Phds went for jobs at the cinema in Gorey
http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/rush-for-25-cinema-jobs-2182620.html

Ryanair would have been proud if they had thought of that publicity stunt...

I'm suprised they didn't manage to get in how they are showing World Cup matches in 3d and streaming live Operas from across the world.

Mr. SS

Mr. SS wrote: »

no harm there!

seriously?
you see no harm in the state putting resources into training & educating people in research for years upon years for it to be wasted

Beau

Mr. SS wrote: »

Citi group are employing people on the dole

Since when did being on the dole become a job requirement?