Dublin Mountain Plod - 18th July.

BarryD

rovers_runner wrote: »

I just posted the link to the map from the IMRA site.
I didn't scan anything, and I would have assumed that IMRA were using OSI maps as they are one of the organisations main sponsors.
http://www.imra.ie/maps/Dublin%20Mountain%20Plod%20v1.jpg

Thanks Rovers - I didn't realise you got if off the IMRA site. I've contacted Justin Rea there as he was the chap I gave the 'official' credited version to.

Antigrav

Official full frontal version of Route Map now on display at IMRA and in this thread. My apologies to EastWest Mapping for putting earlier version up on IMRA without appropriate copyright marker.

These maps are excellently researched and show more trail and placename detail than others of the area.

All runners will of course be carrying a copy of the flyer with map to avoid any detours from route

nerraw1111

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What is everyone doing for hydration during the race or people happy to go with just the two water stations at 10km and 18km?

Camelbak?

Slogger Jogger

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Can't run with a camelbak personally. 2 water stops is 2 more than I'd normally have on a run of this distance :rolleyes:

Slogger Jogger

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Antigrav wrote: »

These maps are excellently researched and show more trail and placename detail than others of the area.

Can't agree enough. Brilliant maps.

Krusty_Clown

+1. Excellent maps, and I wouldn't have found my way around the route the first time without it (even though I still managed to miss the correct route for about a mile. User error entirely! ) One of the best things about the maps is they arrive packaged in recycled map envelopes. How cool is that?!

BarryD

Well, thanks for changing that and for your kind comments - I used to do a good bit of hill running etc. myself but somewhere along the line, whether through that or a car crash we were involved in - the old knees don't like it any more and now object to excessive jarring! Good luck with the race and trust weather is reasonable.

rovers_runner

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Looking forward to this now, I assume it's numbers to be collected on the morning of the race?

BarryD, maps are excellent, we went up last week and with a scaled down print out. Was pretty easy to navigate through Massy's thanks to your maps on the dublin mountains website. Probably would have made many a wrong turn otherwise.

Rinker

Hi All. Hope the training is going well and everyone is ready for Sunday. Not having run in this type of event before I'm not sure how long its going to take me. Does anyone know what the expected winning time will be and what the expected average time will be? I did the connemara 1/2 marathon in 1h 45. Would 2 hrs be a reasonable expectation?

Krusty_Clown

Rinker wrote: »

Hi All. Hope the training is going well and everyone is ready for Sunday. Not having run in this type of event before I'm not sure how long its going to take me. Does anyone know what the expected winning time will be and what the expected average time will be? I did the connemara 1/2 marathon in 1h 45. Would 2 hrs be a reasonable expectation?

Just a guess, but i would imagine the winning time will be something like 1:15 - 1:20 (but that really depends on who shows up). I think 2 hrs would be quite optimistic if your training has been consistent with the training you did for Connemara (depends how much hill-work you've done), but you will be in very good company.

I don't want to put you off, but the first climb is Hell of the West X 3, and the second climb is HOTW x 1.5 so it's a different beasty altogether. But on a positive note, while Connemara has no significant downhills, this route has about three miles of down-hills. Whhhheeeeeeeeeeee............

nerraw1111

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People still going with running shoes over trail? My choice is either Colombia Ravenous or Kayanos.

Neither the lightest shoe ever devised

gerard65

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nerraw1111 wrote: »

People still going with running shoes over trail? My choice is either Colombia Ravenous or Kayanos.

Neither the lightest shoe ever devised

I'd go for road shoes. I was up there last Saturday and despite the lashing rain my GT2140's were fine. There is only a small area in Masseys wood which may be a bit muddy but apart from that its firm underfoot.

On another note, do we have to print off and sign the IMRA new membership form and bring it with us on Sunday?

Krusty_Clown

nerraw1111 wrote: »

People still going with running shoes over trail?

Trail shoes will be very hard on you for the mile or so coming down from Kilmashogue (and a little bit tough on the three mile road-based uphill climb at the start). Running shoes for me (if I make it).

nerraw1111

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Cheers, will go with the asics unless the weather dramatically changes.

Gerard, I'm guessing you'll have to fill out a new IMRA membership form, seeing as you are paying E10 to join it.

Krusty_Clown

I found that the grip was substantially better the day I did the run in the wet weather than it was in the dry weather. In dry weather the section around three-rock is sandy and offers poor grip. When it's wet, you can belt along. The only area that you could really do with trail shoes is Masseys, where it's quite muddy. The rigidity of a trail shoe might help on the fire roads around Cruagh/Kilmashogue as well.

Also bring a step-ladder for all the styles you have to clamber over.

Rinker

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

Just a guess, but i would imagine the winning time will be something like 1:15 - 1:20 (but that really depends on who shows up). I think 2 hrs would be quite optimistic if your training has been consistent with the training you did for Connemara (depends how much hill-work you've done), but you will be in very good company.

I don't want to put you off, but the first climb is Hell of the West X 3, and the second climb is HOTW x 1.5 so it's a different beasty altogether. But on a positive note, while Connemara has no significant downhills, this route has about three miles of down-hills. Whhhheeeeeeeeeeee............

Thanks for the advice Krusty. In fact I am an optomist but I've also given up the fags and done a lot of hill running in the mean time. I'll listen out for you on the downhill part.

GoHardOrGoHome

I ran approx 19k of the route yesterday in my trail shoes (Salomon Speed Cross 2) and the grip wasn't required. The Salomons are one of the most cushioned trail shoes I've tried. If I was racing on Sunday I'd wear road shoes. Honestly I'd probably go with lightweight racing shoes. There is too much road and hard packed trail to wear a hard studded shoe like Walshes.

Krusty_Clown

GoHardOrGoHome wrote: »

I ran approx 19k of the route yesterday in my trail shoes (Salomon Speed Cross 2) and the grip wasn't required. The Salomons are one of the most cushioned trail shoes I've tried. If I was racing on Sunday I'd wear road shoes. Honestly I'd probably go with lightweight racing shoes. There is too much road and hard packed trail to wear a hard studded shoe like Walshes.

That's what I meant, I just didn't word it as well as you did! Unfortunately, the physio says no, so all my recce's and mapwork are for nowt! He says I can do a 17 mile run with 10 miles at PMP instead.

Slogger Jogger

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gerard65 wrote: »

On another note, do we have to print off and sign the IMRA new membership form and bring it with us on Sunday?

If you have never ran an IMRA race before, then yes - print the form and fill it in. If you've ran an IMRA race in previous years but not this year then your details will be on the system and a form can be printed at registration for you to sign.

Mullaghteelin

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I dont want to tempt faith, but at the moment the weather is looking fairly reasonable for Sunday morning.
The rain looks like it may hold off, the wind shouldn't be too strong, and it should be mild... but hopefully not too warm and humid.

gerard65

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Mullaghteelin wrote: »

I dont want to tempt faith, but at the moment the weather is looking fairly reasonable for Sunday morning.
The rain looks like it may hold off, the wind shouldn't be too strong, and it should be mild... but hopefully not too warm and humid.

Not too sure about that. MET.IE has Sunday morning over Leinster as 'rain, drizzle and fog'. Hope everyone knows their way around as I would'nt want to get lost in fog out on the mountains.:D

Mullaghteelin

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gerard65 wrote: »

Not too sure about that. MET.IE has Sunday morning over Leinster as 'rain, drizzle and fog'. Hope everyone knows their way around as I would'nt want to get lost in fog out on the mountains.:D

Yeh, its either going to be damp gloomy and muggy, or cooler and clearer with sunny breaks.
At least if its drizzlely and foggy, the Dublin Mountains might escape the worst, being downwind of higher ground.

Krusty_Clown

I wouldn't be gambling on dry weather.

smmoore79

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Ive never ran a mountain run before but am tempted to do this one. Im down for 16 miles training so this would be ideal distance wise as can do a quick 3 miler before hand.

As a complete novice to mountain running, is there a chance of me going of course and getting lost?! Ive never ran that part of the world before. Or will there be enough participants to follow around so i dont have to know the route exactly (kinda like the road races I do)!? Probably sound like dumb ass questions! sorry in advance!!!

I havent registered yet but assume its ok to turn up on the day according to the IMRA quote below...
"Pre-registration has now closed, but as we are under our limit for the race we will allow registrations on the day. Please get there before 9:00 if possible as parking will be limited, and late comers will be sent around to 3rock rovers hockey club (10min walk).

See you Sunday. Bring a rain jacket!"

gerard65

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smmoore79 wrote: »

Ive never ran a mountain run before but am tempted to do this one. Im down for 16 miles training so this would be ideal distance wise as can do a quick 3 miler before hand.

As a complete novice to mountain running, is there a chance of me going of course and getting lost?! Ive never ran that part of the world before. Or will there be enough participants to follow around so i dont have to know the route exactly (kinda like the road races I do)!? Probably sound like dumb ass questions! sorry in advance!!!

I havent registered yet but assume its ok to turn up on the day according to the IMRA quote below...
"Pre-registration has now closed, but as we are under our limit for the race we will allow registrations on the day. Please get there before 9:00 if possible as parking will be limited, and late comers will be sent around to 3rock rovers hockey club (10min walk).

See you Sunday. Bring a rain jacket!"

I think it'll be well signed and I'd imagine you'll be in sight of another runner all the time. Its been advertised as a run, jog or walk so I'd say they'll have it well stewarded.
Really looking forward to this now, tomorrows 5 mile is just a 'warmup'.

Donny5

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I do have one question. I haven't been clcoking up many miles in the last two weeks, resting after a slight knee injury. I've never done a half anywhere near as hilly as this, and I really have no clue what my time will be. Embarassing slow, certainly, but I'd rather not be last by a margin of hours.

Is anyone walking it, which is something I'm thinking of doing? I preregistered, and I'd like to go, if only for the experience. Not being a serious runner, though, I think I may be out of my league.

gerard65

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Donny5 wrote: »

I do have one question. I haven't been clcoking up many miles in the last two weeks, resting after a slight knee injury. I've never done a half anywhere near as hilly as this, and I really have no clue what my time will be. Embarassing slow, certainly, but I'd rather not be last by a margin of hours.

Is anyone walking it, which is something I'm thinking of doing? I preregistered, and I'd like to go, if only for the experience. Not being a serious runner, though, I think I may be out of my league.

There is a small bit about it in the 'southside people' and its been pitched as a 'family run' catering for people of all abilities so I don't think you'll be too slow. From what I gather if you want to walk you'll have company, looks like it'll be a relaxed event.

smmoore79

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gerard65 wrote: »

I think it'll be well signed and I'd imagine you'll be in sight of another runner all the time. Its been advertised as a run, jog or walk so I'd say they'll have it well stewarded.
Really looking forward to this now, tomorrows 5 mile is just a 'warmup'.

Thanks for that, you've just convinced me to run this! Hopefully i can register on the morning of it. Was meant to do the 5 miler tomorrow aswell but would prefer rest at this stage, did the BHAA 5km race on Wed and a 10 mile run on Thur so fairly shattered now. a nice recovery run tomorrow would be better for me.

Really lookin forward to my maiden mountain run aswell :rolleyes:

Antigrav

Yep. Possible to register on the day. Fill in a membership form to speed things up if you haven't run an IMRA race this year.

Walking is OK. Running is better. Plodding is what you'll end up doing

gerard65

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Just got a message to say massey's wood is very muddy in parts after the resent rain. An old pair of runners may be a good idea:)

Cool Running

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Cany wait for this!! Hopefully weather wont be as bad as this morning. Best of luck to everyone tomorrow

See ye at the finish line:)

smmoore79

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Wow, now that was tough. The Dublin marathon is the only thing Ive done that id consider tougher!!! Was my maiden mountain run today was was all excited. Forgot my Garmain so had no idea of distances covered, when someone shouted 10km done, my heart sank!! The uphills were really killing me after the 10km mark, ocassionally id look around and admire the breathtaking views of the Wicklow gap. Kept goin and was so relieved and overjoyed to finish!

Overall, I have to say the route was class, views were amazing. Many thanks to the volunteers who kept us on track aswell and cheered us on. The fruit at the end was a nice touch :rolleyes: I can see myself penning in a few more mountain runs before the year is out..

Slogger Jogger

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Hey mods can we open the poll so we can vote on this?

Great race. Despite what Justin said beforehand the distance was fairly accurate. I made it 20.98k which considering the distance and terrain ain't too bad. Certainly more accurate than a certain 5 mile race. There wasn't as much climb as I expected.. Sporttracks says 572 metres. Still, I felt every single one of them.

Weather ended up being fine, thankfully. Good turnout too and excellent organisation, marking, marshalling etc. Well done all.

Slogger Jogger

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Garmin track of today's race. Climb is under 600m.. The last 5k were fan-tastic!

http://connect.garmin.com/activity/40847530

earlyevening

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Enjoyed that. I'd definitely do it again next year. I think I finished in or around 1:40 which is probably better than I expected for a half marathon with those climbs.

gerard65

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Im shattered, but happy. What a run!! At times it was hell, at other times it was exhilarating. Mile 7 - 6:12 pace, Mile 8 - 12:45 pace. Very well organised, the IMRA reminded me of the BHAA this morning - they know their job and they do it very well.
Also nice to meet boardies who I rarely meet, SJ, EarlyEvening and GoHard. And KC up alone on the mountain with his camera.

Slogger Jogger

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+1 to that.

Yeah, thanks KC. You'd have done well this morning... regardless of what the physio said

nerraw1111

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What a race. It was brutal at times but what a way to spend two hours running. The route was fantastic and the gardai, Marshalls and Dublin mountain staff and volunteers did a great job.

Delighted with my race, got in under 2 hours. My garmin was 21.1 kms.
The downhill was awesome. The last 2km were tough, almost had to walk up the tiny incline just past the m50.

But super super race

Cool Running

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UNREAL!!!

Well it would have been if my IT band didnt start causing me agony after about 40mins. Really struggled after that, down hills were particulary sore. Someone from Boards AC passed me going up Tibraden, not sure who it was but they had a headband. Finshed round 1.50 tho so not to bad.

Great race, organisation, views etc were class. Real buzz running on the mountain

Mullaghteelin

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Great race, and performed much better than I had expected, coming in at 1:33.

I usually have to haul a backpack with me whenever Im training on the mountains, so it really felt great today without one.

5:16 pace for mile 7, 5:13 for mile 11. You just cant beat those downhills!
My Garmin recorded it as 13.01 miles, its interesting to see the little variations from person to person.

Mullaghteelin

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nerraw1111 wrote: »

almost had to walk up the tiny incline just past the m50.

But super super race

Ive never known that little bump to be so tough before, had to slow down big time. Guess my body had had enough climbing for one day.:D

Rinker

Agree with all above, a great race. I was really looking forward to the downhill part until all around me started racing for home. I'd to really try hard to maintain my position. Found the last 2 km harder than any of the previous. Really happy with my time so it was worth all the pain.

Slogger Jogger

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Cool Running wrote: »

UNREAL!!!

Well it would have been if my IT band didnt start causing me agony after about 40mins. Really struggled after that, down hills were particulary sore. Someone from Boards AC passed me going up Tibraden, not sure who it was but they had a headband. Finshed round 1.50 tho so not to bad.

Great race, organisation, views etc were class. Real buzz running on the mountain

That was earlyevening with the tell-tale headband. Nice running.

Slogger Jogger

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Mullaghteelin wrote: »

Great race, and performed much better than I had expected, coming in at 1:33.

I usually have to haul a backpack with me whenever Im training on the mountains, so it really felt great today without one.

5:16 pace for mile 7, 5:13 for mile 11. You just cant beat those downhills!
My Garmin recorded it as 13.01 miles, its interesting to see the little variations from person to person.

Great time! You probably went away from me in the early stages. Will that entice you back to the hills?

earlyevening

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Cool Running wrote: »

UNREAL!!!

Well it would have been if my IT band didnt start causing me agony after about 40mins. Really struggled after that, down hills were particulary sore. Someone from Boards AC passed me going up Tibraden, not sure who it was but they had a headband. Finshed round 1.50 tho so not to bad.

Great race, organisation, views etc were class. Real buzz running on the mountain

The guy with the headband was me. I remember passing a guy with a yellow T and another maybe with a dark singlet. Were you one of them?

Mullaghteelin

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Slogger Jogger wrote: »

Great time! You probably went away from me in the early stages. Will that entice you back to the hills?

Yes, it was my first IMRA event.
Ive been putting races off for some time, and doing lots of training on the hills this past year or so, but I certainly feel Im ready now.

Krusty_Clown

Well done all. Some fine running today. I look forward to seeing the results.
I have tonnes of photos from the Fairy Castle turn-off (some of them good, before the rain drowned the lens). Had to stop for a while to help a guy with a busted knee, but otherwise got lots of the runners.

Any guidance on uploading them to IMRA's site, or should I just upload them to Flicrk/Picasa?

Slogger Jogger

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Krusty_Clown wrote: »

Well done all. Some fine running today. I look forward to seeing the results.
I have tonnes of photos from the Fairy Castle turn-off (some of them good, before the rain drowned the lens). Had to stop for a while to help a guy with a busted knee, but otherwise got lots of the runners.

Any guidance on uploading them to IMRA's site, or should I just upload them to Flicrk/Picasa?

KC - you can upload a zip file of photos for a race, once its not mega big - if so you can split the files.. Simply logon to myimra, go into photos and load away.

CelticSpirit

This was my first mountain run and I thoroughly enjoyed the experience.

rovers_runner

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Krusty_Clown wrote: »

Well done all. Some fine running today. I look forward to seeing the results.
I have tonnes of photos from the Fairy Castle turn-off (some of them good, before the rain drowned the lens). Had to stop for a while to help a guy with a busted knee, but otherwise got lots of the runners.

Any guidance on uploading them to IMRA's site, or should I just upload them to Flicrk/Picasa?

Thanks for uploading the pics Krusty, I assume that was you up at the WW & DMW junction?
I wasn't far off asking for a lift down the mountain at that stage, had a complete stinker but really enjoyed the change of scenery all the same.

Was brilliantly organised as always by the IMRA!