GSD colouring and eye colour, rare?!

Eemia

Okay so my guess was wrong lol.

Getting bit worried though are these pups going to be sick seeing someone said with the blue gene they might be?! I would not like these to suffer the older they get.

Eemia

Morganna wrote: »

The blues only have genetic problems if two are mated together.No reason why they should have any more problems than any other colour if they are coming from two parents who arent dilutes.
The genetic problems lie when two dilutes are mated together ,and when greedy people are breeding for colour and not researching there bloodlines and doing health checks.
The blue and liver are not rare they are a naturally occuring colour althought frowned up on.

So if mam and dad were blue carries does that class as mating two dilutes together?! So that means pups might or can have genetic problems?!

I'll get shot for saying this but better telling the truth, the litter was accidental and was not planned and they are booked in to get neutered (male asap and female when she can) (parents are not together atm) I'd rather this thread not turn into of you should have done that long ago, we know and it will not be happening again!

Morganna

Eemia wrote: »

So if mam and dad were blue carries does that class as mating two dilutes together?! So that means pups might or can have genetic problems?!

I'll get shot for saying this but better telling the truth, the litter was accidental and was not planned and they are booked in to get neutered (male asap and female when she can) (parents are not together atm) I'd rather this thread not turn into of you should have done that long ago, we know and it will not be happening again!

no a dilute is a solid blue etc.so by mating two solid blues or two solid dilutes then that is where the health problems arise.
Also a lot of people once they get a solid blue then will go on and inbreed and the more you inbreed the more problems you get .

Morganna

Eemia wrote: »

Okay so my guess was wrong lol.

Getting bit worried though are these pups going to be sick seeing someone said with the blue gene they might be?! I would not like these to suffer the older they get.

no it doesnt mean they are going to get sick as they get older so dont worry.

Eemia

Morganna wrote: »

no a dilute is a solid blue etc.so by mating two solid blues or two solid dilutes then that is where the health problems arise.
Also a lot of people once they get a solid blue then will go on and inbreed and the more you inbreed the more problems you get .

Thanks for giving all this information. No fear of inbreeding from this blue as she will be neutered also. When it comes to re homing pups who are NR, can you "make" the new owners neuter the puppys? (I know a note thingy can be put onto PBR's papers). Would prefer they went as pets and not to be bred and creating more bad genes.

Also thanks for putting my mind at ease that besides normal genetic problems they won't suffer because of this gene

Xiney

Morganna wrote: »

no a dilute is a solid blue etc.so by mating two solid blues or two solid dilutes then that is where the health problems arise.
Also a lot of people once they get a solid blue then will go on and inbreed and the more you inbreed the more problems you get .

this is incorrect.

It doesn't have to be the pup of two dilutes to have problems. The problems can arise in any dilute pup - even the progeny of mere carriers as in this case.

Morganna

Xiney wrote: »

this is incorrect.

It doesn't have to be the pup of two dilutes to have problems. The problems can arise in any dilute pup - even the progeny of mere carriers as in this case.

well lets be honest here problems can arise from any dogs of any colours of any parentage !

lrushe

Morganna wrote: »

no a dilute is a solid blue etc.so by mating two solid blues or two solid dilutes then that is where the health problems arise.
Also a lot of people once they get a solid blue then will go on and inbreed and the more you inbreed the more problems you get .

This is the same thing seen in Red Rottweilers where the recessive red coat gene also gives rise to a lighther eye colour. The lighter eye colour increases the risks of eye problems and most also have heart problems too.
I would say if you have your heart set on taking this pup then take it but at a reduced price and I would also be sure to take out insurance on it.

TechnoPool

my fella when he was a pup , it's the same in nearly all pups. 11-12 weeks old here

Xiney

Morganna wrote: »

well lets be honest here problems can arise from any dogs of any colours of any parentage !

of course they can.

but it's like how red hair is linked to diabetes - there is just that increased risk. Doesn't mean that people with brown hair can't get diabetes, they can. But there is a link.

Morganna

Xiney wrote: »

of course they can.

but it's like how red hair is linked to diabetes - there is just that increased risk. Doesn't mean that people with brown hair can't get diabetes, they can. But there is a link.

I agree completley

Eemia

Meet Freya!



Shes a little pet and my 21month old and her get along great aswell as the other dogs!

Morganna

great pic, so pleased for you she is a sweetie.x keep the pics coming x

nearly

Eemia What a beautiful puppy you have! I've never seen one so lovely. I love grey

Can you show us more pics? Like to see what Freya looks like walking around.

Grey nose, so cute!

Eemia

nearly wrote: »

Eemia What a beautiful puppy you have! I've never seen one so lovely. I love grey

Can you show us more pics? Like to see what Freya looks like walking around.

Grey nose, so cute!

Thank you, she is such a pet!

I'll try get more pics of her this evening its SOOOO hard to get any of them sitting still! I have a video of the 5 of them running after my 21month son but cause he is in it i don't really want to post it up as you can understand.

Will get the good camera out and her on her own and see what i can get

Nose is cute - looks like a button

Eemia

Sorry about delay getting pics, camera went missing and phone wouldn't be able to keep up :rolleyes:

Here ye go, best of the few a lot are blurred

TechnoPool

Gorgeous


but was anyone else getting related image's popping up of some topless blond bird down the bottom

Eemia

TechnoPool wrote: »

Gorgeous


but was anyone else getting related image's popping up of some topless blond bird down the bottom

Sh!t :eek::eek::eek:

TechnoPool

Eemia wrote: »

Sh!t :eek::eek::eek:

what ever you inta pal

Eemia

TechnoPool wrote: »

what ever you inta pal

:pac: I was only joking!!

Now back on topic lol

Morganna

lovely pup xx

lisar201

she is gorgeous!! so u gona keep her?

Eemia

lisar201 wrote: »

she is gorgeous!! so u gona keep her?

Yep

Going ordering her a new kennel tomorrow and she's going to be crate trained by night!

Eemia

http://img80.imageshack.us/my.php?image=30062010113.mp4 (Short video of her chasing her lead)

Had her at the beach this morning while no one was on it. She was on one yday too and had great fun Shes as good!

TooManyDogs

So jealous of the grey colouring, she's so unusual. If she ever goes missing you'll know she's cuddled up on my sofa with me! Actually, how about swapping her with my GSD x????