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Gary Doherty released

  • 15-05-2010 6:04pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 292 ✭✭


    Released after 6 years with Norwich, poor Gary, wasnt that long ago he was playing premier league and international football, and he's still only 30. We will always love you Gary 'The Ginger Pelé' Doherty.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭brick tamland


    Released after 6 years with Norwich, poor Gary, wasnt that long ago he was playing premier league and international football, and he's still only 30. We will always love you Gary 'The Ginger Pelé' Doherty.

    He was in the PFA team of the year this season, I'm sure he'll get a club

    Good luck to him


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Released after 6 years

    What was he in for?

    Murdering football?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 292 ✭✭Jordan Berbatov


    He was in the PFA team of the year this season, I'm sure he'll get a club

    Good luck to him


    Didnt know that now, knew he was having a good enough season, but not that good. Strange decision to release him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,161 ✭✭✭✭M5


    Released after 6 years with Norwich, poor Gary, wasnt that long ago he was playing premier league and international football, and he's still only 30. We will always love you Gary 'The Ginger Pelé' Doherty.

    Arsenal looking for a center half, coincidence? i think not


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,382 ✭✭✭✭greendom


    Good solid experienced centre half - he'll find work no bother - even if he has to drop a division.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    We'll take him at Sheff Wed :)

    Bit of experience needed now Steve watson and Michael Gray are gone


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,543 ✭✭✭JerryHandbag


    Ireland needs him back in the Prem :pac: Surely Blackpool/Cardiff will take him?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 292 ✭✭Jordan Berbatov


    Ireland needs him back in the Prem :pac: Surely Blackpool/Cardiff will take him?

    As well as Ian Harte and Gary Breen


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,543 ✭✭✭JerryHandbag


    As well as Ian Harte and Gary Breen

    Hartes free kicks could still do some damage alright....Gary Breen, eh....not so much


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    Hartes free kicks could still do some damage alright....Gary Breen, eh....not so much
    If football introduces "special teams" like American football Harty could play until 50 as a free kick specialist.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,314 ✭✭✭BOHtox


    Bohs need a centre back


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,618 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    He should come play at home actually.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,697 Mod ✭✭✭✭dfx-


    BOHtox wrote: »
    Bohs need a centre back

    Are Bohs and Rovers competing for the slowest defences in history?


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,676 ✭✭✭jayteecork


    Surely he can get onto Mick McCarthy and offer his services as a centre forward again?!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 292 ✭✭Jordan Berbatov


    Hartes free kicks could still do some damage alright....Gary Breen, eh....not so much


    yeah not much else to say about that really


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,983 ✭✭✭leninbenjamin


    I have to say to release him after getting onto the PFA team seems a bit scummy from Norwich. Either he has something lined up or he didn't get on with the manager, the latter seeming most likely. Wish him the best anyway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭Luap


    BOHtox wrote: »
    Bohs need a centre back


    Haha I thought he played up front:confused:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    I have to say to release him after getting onto the PFA team seems a bit scummy from Norwich. Either he has something lined up or he didn't get on with the manager, the latter seeming most likely. Wish him the best anyway.
    Hopefully he will get a good deal somewhere after having a good season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,477 ✭✭✭grenache


    Ireland needs him back in the Prem :pac: Surely Blackpool/Cardiff will take him?
    wouldn't be good enough to warm the bench at either club. And besides, they actually play football, something he tries not to do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,543 ✭✭✭JerryHandbag


    He always did a job for us either up front or centre half, I'm sure he woulda pulled on the keepers jersey too no bother. The Ginger Pele indeed :)

    The job in question, as others have pointed out, may not have involved much football!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 971 ✭✭✭CoalBucket


    Lets be honest about it, he's shockin. If he is lucky he might pick up a gig with some league 2 team for a season or two and then he can go work for TV3


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,267 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack


    Hartes free kicks could still do some damage alright....
    Harte actually scored 16 goals for Carlisle last season. Not a bad return by any stretch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭backspacer


    The first thing that shocked me was the fact that Gary Doherty is only 30:eek: Seems like the guy is around forever. Always liked the guy,not for his football skills but simply for giving it socks despite a total lack of footballing ability but an ability to stick his head where it will hurt. Really hope he gets picked up by another club, simply for his workrate if nothing else.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭Macca07


    Harte is leading goalscorer for Carlisle this season, 18 goals, not bad for a left-back playing centre-half.

    Gary Doherty, what a legend!!! He finished third in this season's supporters' player of the year poll after scoring seven goals in 44 games.

    Wasn't he Ireland leading goal scorer in one of the qualifying rounds for the European Championship?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭MickShamrock


    Macca07 wrote: »
    Wasn't he Ireland leading goal scorer in one of the qualifying rounds for the European Championship?

    Seriously doubt it, considering he scored something like a total of four goals for Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,407 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Brave and committed player, more than capable of doing a job at the lower levels of the Championship down. Being included in the League One PFA Team of the year says it all really. I have no doubt that he will be picked up by a club, and will probably be playing professional football well into this decade.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,543 ✭✭✭JerryHandbag


    Seriously doubt it, considering he scored something like a total of four goals for Ireland.

    Yeah but I'm pretty sure he scored those 4 goals in the Euro 2004 qualifiers, which considering how crap we did in that campaign would probably make him top or joint top scorer alright.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭Macca07


    I think 3 of the goals were in the qualifying for Euro 2004, and we did only score 10 goals in that qualifying round


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,618 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    I have to say to release him after getting onto the PFA team seems a bit scummy from Norwich. Either he has something lined up or he didn't get on with the manager, the latter seeming most likely. Wish him the best anyway.
    To be fair, there is no room for sentiment in football management. If the manager doesn't think he'll be upto the pace of a higher standard of football, he has done the right thing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,407 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    CSF wrote: »
    To be fair, there is no room for sentiment in football management. If the manager doesn't think he'll be upto the pace of a higher standard of football, he has done the right thing.

    Lambert doesn't like him. One of his first acts as manager was to strip him of the captaincy, drop him, and inform him that he had no long term future at the club. Doherty put his head down and worked his way into the starting line up, and was man of the match at Leeds (one of their bigger games this season obviously), and obviously consistently great if he got into the PFA team.

    Why Lambert doesn't like him is anyone's guess. It could have something to do with how Doherty approaches football both on and off the pitch - i.e. maybe he doesn't train in a certain way or try to use the ball in a certain manner. Whatever, the point is that Doherty being released should not be considered a definitive statement on his ability to cut it at Championship level. It is the opinion of Paul Lambert, an opinion that diverges from Doherty's peers playing against him in league football this season.

    Maybe Lambert is right, and Doherty is overvalued by League One footballers, and Norwich fans. Or maybe he made a rash decision when walking in the dressing room in an effort to assert his authority, and now is too stubborn to go back on it. Wouldn't be the first time such a thing happened in football.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,618 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    Lambert doesn't like him. One of his first acts as manager was to strip him of the captaincy, drop him, and inform him that he had no long term future at the club. Doherty put his head down and worked his way into the starting line up, and was man of the match at Leeds (one of their bigger games this season obviously), and obviously consistently great if he got into the PFA team.

    Why Lambert doesn't like him is anyone's guess. It could have something to do with how Doherty approaches football both on and off the pitch - i.e. maybe he doesn't train in a certain way or try to use the ball in a certain manner. Whatever, the point is that Doherty being released should not be considered a definitive statement on his ability to cut it at Championship level. It is the opinion of Paul Lambert, an opinion that diverges from Doherty's peers playing against him in league football this season.

    Maybe Lambert is right, and Doherty is overvalued by League One footballers, and Norwich fans. Or maybe he made a rash decision when walking in the dressing room in an effort to assert his authority, and now is too stubborn to go back on it. Wouldn't be the first time such a thing happened in football.
    Wasn't aware he'd done that, jaysus. Nuts thing to do, although the results did improve.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,480 ✭✭✭✭cson


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    Lambert doesn't like him. One of his first acts as manager was to strip him of the captaincy, drop him, and inform him that he had no long term future at the club. Doherty put his head down and worked his way into the starting line up, and was man of the match at Leeds (one of their bigger games this season obviously), and obviously consistently great if he got into the PFA team.

    Someone put wikipedia to good use there. :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,407 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    cson wrote: »
    Someone put wikipedia to good use there. :p

    Meh, when there is a discussion around a player and sweeping assertions being thrown around over his ability / lack of ability some facts are no bad thing! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,520 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    The hate is actually a bit OTT.

    All the bleedin football connoisseurs in here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,521 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    CoalBucket wrote: »
    Lets be honest about it, he's shockin. If he is lucky he might pick up a gig with some league 2 team for a season or two and then he can go work for TV3

    The PFA respectfully disagree with you. He'll easily find another League One team minimum.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,463 ✭✭✭Kiwi_knock


    Doherty's release could be due to the manager not liking him but it could be due to the Doherty not fitting into the manager's plans. Lambert obviously had a style of play that he wanted Norwich to play when he took over and Doherty did not fit into that. However that style was not working and Doherty came back in and put in the performances. Lambert though still has not changed his opinion that Doherty does not fit into his style of play. It is not personal but rather for the benefit of the team. Why bring Doherty up to the Championship and not play him when he can get a game in League 1 with the majority of the teams. Doherty should be thankful that he is not wasting a season sitting on a bench when now he will have a chance to play another full season in the league.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,198 ✭✭✭kensutz


    Over the past 4 seasons or so, Doherty was immense for us. Sadly it's after coming to a time where we need defenders who are more suitable for Championship football.

    Yes it is true that he was dropped and told there was no future for him at the club. Hoolahan was also dropped and it gave him a kick up the backside. Doc weighed in with some important goals and goal line clearances this year. He works hard but the pace of football in the Championship next year will give him a bit of trouble. We need someone to partner Askou or Nelson in defence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,699 ✭✭✭bamboozle


    blinding wrote: »
    If football introduces "special teams" like American football Harty could play until 50 as a free kick specialist.

    he did great for us (Carlisle) this season


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    backspacer wrote: »
    despite a total lack of footballing ability

    Hark at all the armchair experts on here.

    He will have no problem whatsoever continuing his career as a football for another few years, albeit at a lower level.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,198 ✭✭✭kensutz


    It's quite comical how people can judge Doherty as a player and they haven't seen him play week in, week out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,520 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    stovelid wrote: »
    Hark at all the armchair experts on here.

    He will have no problem whatsoever continuing his career as a football for another few years, albeit at a lower level.


    Good point.

    Even better use of the word 'Hark'.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    noodler wrote: »

    Even better use of the word 'Hark'.

    It's been hijacked for far too long by the ecclesiastics, I feel.


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