Avenged Sevenfold - Nightmare

Mushy

I'll start by saying I'm only giving this a chance due to the man handling drumming duties, but here be the new single.

Kess73

If I did not already know that Portnoy was the drummer, I would have mistaken his drumming on this track for that of Charlie Benante or Paul Bostaph.

Useful.Idiot

I think the drum parts were already written before they got Portnoy in.

LD 50

From listening to it, I'd say they were mostly written, and Portnoy added his own touches. Like the high pitched octoban sound just at the start of the first verus. Portnoy uses Octoban's(a high pitched drum) and O'Sullivan doesn't(didn't??)

Mushy

LD 50 wrote: »

From listening to it, I'd say they were mostly written, and Portnoy added his own touches. Like the high pitched octoban sound just at the start of the first verus. Portnoy uses Octoban's(a high pitched drum) and O'Sullivan doesn't(didn't??)

Yeah thats exactly what I noticed too.. Think there was some small splash sounds around it too. Wonder what kit MP will bring on tour with them...praying for siamese monster.

Turtyturd

Meh, never got the hype around thise band although the OH is a fan. Just sounds like more of the same to me.

Motley Crue

It's not bad, reminds me of their earlier material

Am I Evil?

Wasn't sure of it on the first listen. After a while it's grown on me. Quite like it

Trogdor

There doesn't seem to be anything there for me really, it sounds very generic to my ear, like the same mediocre stuff they've producing on their last 2 albums with nothing much new in it. I understand that Portnoy was asked to play exactly as "The Rev" would've for this track to honour him so it will be interesting to see what influence Portnoy has on the other tracks.

Contessa Raven

I read an interview today with M. Shadows and Synyster Gates and they said that half the songs on the album were written by The Rev and Portnoy replicates his drumming pretty accurately on them.

Not sure about the songs written afterwards but I'm sure he'll still stick to a similar style to Jimmy. They still want to sound like the old Avenged Sevenfold and Portnoy is there only temporarily. But I guess we'll see.

LD 50

Whats the point though in getting a drummer like MP in, if they're going to to say, "Right, Mike. We know you're awesome an' all, but can you play the songs exactly as Jimmy had" I understand they got him in because he was The Rev's favourite drummer, but give the man a break. For a man that has to be in control of everything, I'd say being locked into playing what was already on tape wrecked his head.

Contessa Raven

LD 50 wrote: »

Whats the point though in getting a drummer like MP in, if they're going to to say, "Right, Mike. We know you're awesome an' all, but can you play the songs exactly as Jimmy had" I understand they got him in because he was The Rev's favourite drummer, but give the man a break. For a man that has to be in control of everything, I'd say being locked into playing what was already on tape wrecked his head.

That's a fair point but I think they got him to play exactly like Jimmy as a tribute to him.

It may have wrecked his head but he didn't have to do it. He has Dream Theatre to use as his creative outlet. Also, he might do more of his own style on the songs Jimmy didn't get to finish or be a part of.

Either way I think Mike Portnoy is a really nice guy and it was a really cool thing for him to do. If only everyone's idols were so nice!

Can't wait for the album!

waltersobchak

LD 50 wrote: »

Whats the point though in getting a drummer like MP in, if they're going to to say, "Right, Mike. We know you're awesome an' all, but can you play the songs exactly as Jimmy had" I understand they got him in because he was The Rev's favourite drummer, but give the man a break. For a man that has to be in control of everything, I'd say being locked into playing what was already on tape wrecked his head.

I think he gets a kick out of playing other people's stuff tbh, like those Rush, Beatles, Who and Zeppelin tribute bands he was in, plus MP imo seems(from how he speaks in most interviews) that he wanted to be as respectful to the Rev as possible.. Which indeed is a credit to MP because most ego driven musicians would want to put "their stamp" on the songs..

The song itself is pretty generic A7X.. The drums are killer though:cool:

BrianSlipknot

Nice. Didnt expect the single to be here at all.

MickShamrock

It's not bad, but it doesn't make me want to check out the album.

sabiansoldier

Oh dear. So in other words, A7X have noting new to offer. Shame. As incredible a drummer as MP is, he's wasted here, A7X have no use for a sticksman as innovative as Mike. It's grand like, but it's no Octavarium XD While the epic drums add a lot to the track, it doesn't do anything about M. Shadow's annoying, nasal tone, or the use of swear words for their own sake, or the mundane predictability of most every aspect of the song.

waltersobchak

Heres a Vid of Mike doing some drums in the Studio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nGuMxc_zEc

LD 50

That video was crap. That stupid strobe effect wrecked my head, and there was only about 15secs of MP playing.

Boo-urns!

frulewis

I love this single, can't wait to hear the album

Astro Zombie

Its great but this new drummer blows

Degag

Astro Zombie wrote: »

Its great but this new drummer blows

LOL!!!

Max Power1

Astro Zombie wrote: »

Its great but this new drummer blows

Go away.
Listen to some of portnoy's other work
Then come back and laugh at your previous post's utter ridicularity.

Degag wrote: »

LOL!!!

+1

waltersobchak

Astro Zombie wrote: »

Its great but this new drummer blows

Your either joking or borderline retarded, i hope its the latter tbh..

Doctor Jimbob

Someone has a different opinion on the man than you two do so they must be retarded. Thats a mature and intelligent way to look at things. Not ridiculous and childish at all. :rolleyes:

waltersobchak

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Someone has a different opinion on the man than you two do so they must be retarded. Thats a mature and intelligent way to look at things. Not ridiculous and childish at all. :rolleyes:

Well to be perfectly honest, saying that a man who has won 22 Awards, from Modern Drummer mag, including best Prog Rock Drummer 12 times/years in a row, and is the youngest Drummer since Neil f*cking Peart of Rush to be put in the Drumming Hall of Fame, "Blow's" is borderline retarted or just plain ignorance of the highest order, im not being a pretencious fanboy snob when i say that.. Im just being a realist, but as i said if yer mans joking well thats another thing completely

Doctor Jimbob

waltersobchak wrote: »

Well to be perfectly honest, saying that a man who has won 22 Awards, from Modern Drummer mag, including best Prog Rock Drummer 12 times/years in a row, and is the youngest Drummer since Neil f*cking Peart of Rush to be put in the Drumming Hall of Fame, "Blow's" is borderline retarted or just plain ignorance of the highest order, im not being a pretencious fanboy snob when i say that.. Im just being a realist, but as i said if yer mans joking well thats another thing completely

Still, the thread did need something to make up for the relentless Portnoy fanboyism

The rev was also a damn good drummer you know.

Max Power1

waltersobchak wrote: »

Well to be perfectly honest, saying that a man who has won 22 Awards, from Modern Drummer mag, including best Prog Rock Drummer 12 times/years in a row, and is the youngest Drummer since Neil f*cking Peart of Rush to be put in the Drumming Hall of Fame, "Blow's" is borderline retarted or just plain ignorance of the highest order, im not being a pretencious fanboy snob when i say that.. Im just being a realist, but as i said if yer mans joking well thats another thing completely

+1

Dr Jimbob wrote:

Someone has a different opinion on the man than you two do so they must be retarded. Thats a mature and intelligent way to look at things. Not ridiculous and childish at all

Im not a "fanboy" as you put it, hell I dont even like DT that much! But to say that Portnoy "blows" as a drummer is nothing short of retarded. The man has pretty much universal positive acclaim amongst his peers; to say he is not a good drummer is akin to saying Toni Iommi was a rubbish metal guitarist.

Moojuice

Dreadful stuff as usual from Avenged 7 Fold. Portnoy is good as usual, I really don't like DT that much at all but you have to recognise talent and Portnoy is a flower in the Avenged 7 Fold garden of weeds.

Angron

Max Power1 wrote: »

Im not a "fanboy" as you put it, hell I dont even like DT that much! But to say that Portnoy "blows" as a drummer is nothing short of retarded. The man has pretty much universal positive acclaim amongst his peers; to say he is not a good drummer is akin to saying Toni Iommi was a rubbish metal guitarist.

This, so much. I'm not a DT fan either, but he's a fantastic drummer none the less.

Doctor Jimbob

Moojuice wrote: »

Dreadful stuff as usual from Avenged 7 Fold. Portnoy is good as usual, I really don't like DT that much at all but you have to recognise talent and Portnoy is a flower in the Avenged 7 Fold garden of weeds.

If you're going to insult the band at least spell the name right. You know the way everyone else on the thread has done. Unless you're trying to be funny and just not being very good at it.

Max Power1

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

If you're going to insult the band at least spell the name right. You know the way everyone else on the thread has done. Unless you're trying to be funny and just not being very good at it.

:rolleyes: